I think it was in a past but in last 1 year no, we have many female fronted and sympho band sbut somehow they don't get such attention as in a past, because many basucaly like in every other genre don't create anything what woul make money to label company and even they get noticed more because of I net, pre I net era they would be just demo home town band whit 3 gigs in naibouyr town

I think that while the songwriting of Holopainen has definately become more mainstream, the band is currently at its best with Floor, Kai, Marko, Emppu, Tuomas and Troy. Devil in the Deep Dark Ocean (with Floor and Marko, and Kai) is one of my favorite Nightwish songs yet I hate the Studio Version, and I never would have gotten into Nightwish when they still had Tarja. Nightwish has always been a hit and miss band--ex: I love Poet and the Pendulum, Ghost Love Score, Ghost River, The Greatest Show on Earth, Romantacide, Slaying the Dreamer, and Master Passion Greed-when Floor does these songs-yet I never was a fan of Beauty and the Beast, My Walden, Bye, Bye Beautiful, or Pharoh Sails to Orion. I agree that it is harder to find good symphonic metal. As a lover of female fronted bands, Opera IX's Cadaveria left to form her own band which has become little more than symphonic pop rock with a few growls. Tristania's Veland Morten left and Tristania became commercial trash, while Morten's band Sirenia first album was the polar opposite of Nightwish. In Nightwish, the synth drowns out everything, in In Sixes and Sevens, the synth wasn't even audible! Not to mention that Sirenia is worse than Nightwish about going through female vocalists (of which the only tolerable one was Fabian). And apparently Amaranthe is "symphonic metal". I have never liked Within Tempation or EPICA. I agree that quality symphonic metal is hard to find and I have only started to get into the genre

I liked the Penumbra release except I hated the female vocalist. Man, I miss Vibeke Stene

Have we reached 2020?

Has the sky turned blue?

Is that a reference?