Written by The Voyager on 18.08.2012 at 08:26

Written by zarahuztra on 17.08.2012 at 12:47

roy kahn vocal style

You stop disrespecting Roy Khan like that, you hear me?

if u listen to autotheist movement III: Deconserate from 02:40, i think the song passage is very similar to how roy khan sings, no disrespect to neither singers...

Wow, what an awesome technical stuff is this. Music of this band is fantastic

Written by zarahuztra on 18.08.2012 at 15:41

if u listen to autotheist movement III: Deconserate from 02:40, i think the song passage is very similar to how roy khan sings, no disrespect to neither singers...

I was joking. I just think that while the passage may sound similar, Khan is a way better singer than Keene could ever hope to be. Honestly the clean vocals are really my only complaint about this album. They seem to lack life to me. But yeah, I was only kidding around.

I noticed some of these when listening to Autotheism for the first time.


And I'm not saying the band did this on purpose or that all the examples are that similar, it's just interesting.

Let's see I_ Die_Often bitch about this.

This will keep happening more and more often as time passes by and more and more bands keep forming and the ones already formed keep releasing new records. If you think about it, it's not too hard that two different bands in the world write the same or similar riff.
When I wrote the first song for my new band, two months later or so I checked out a Pain Of Salvation song that I had never heard before and there was a really similar riff and I noticed it instantly. And no, I'm not going to change my song for that, I would if I noticed I had heard the song before and I was "unconsciously" ripping it off.

Needs more spins, but I like it already.

Written by Guest on 19.08.2012 at 01:58

Let's see I_ Die_Often bitch about this.

I'll listen, then I'll trash it
As I've said, maybe their albums are better, but I've had enuf of them live.

Written by Unhealer on 19.08.2012 at 20:28

This will keep happening more and more often as time passes by and more and more bands keep forming and the ones already formed keep releasing new records. If you think about it, it's not too hard that two different bands in the world write the same or similar riff.
When I wrote the first song for my new band, two months later or so I checked out a Pain Of Salvation song that I had never heard before and there was a really similar riff and I noticed it instantly. And no, I'm not going to change my song for that, I would if I noticed I had heard the song before and I was "unconsciously" ripping it off.

It happens. The thing a lot of people don't realize is that its not all about the riffs. Having a solid harmonic basis is essential I think, but its also largely about how you put ideas together with drums, vocals, guitar tone, in accordance to song buildup, ect. TF's new record is one of the most original sounding albums I've heard in a while, even though you can tell it was inspired a lot by Devin Townsend, Opeth, and a mix of a lot of new metal lately. Even though there are a few riffs in their that sound similar, the album comes off as undeniably different than those bands. Notice the production, songwriting, wide range of instrument tones, vocal variety, and diverse amount of influences. It ranges from sounding like The Faceless's brand of tech death, to Opeth, Devin, and Mr Bungle mainly. Yet when listening to the whole album, these influences all sound organic and fit together well.

I don't mean to sound pretentious here, but riffs are a pretty juvenile way of looking at things I think. Sure it sounds great in typical death/black/thrash metal, but you can't create strong dynamics with a bunch of typical guitar riffs. Metal itself is a pretty constant style of music, meaning that it doesn't change much. Its usually a brutal assault that lasts a whole song. My point in saying this paragraph is that its sort of pathetic when people get overly critical of similar riffs/riff stealing, when riffs themselves are just sort of blocks that you could use to form a composition of a row of blocks. The real interesting things come, imo, when compositions include a well thought out arrangement of these blocks, with different transitions between them, and harmonies/counterpoint ideas on top of these riffs which obscure the riff into something more spread out/built up.

If this album has less interludes, I might enjoy it... Because maybe I'm the only one who thinks so but 3 tracks under 2 minutes long (and if I recall correctly) with no vocals on an only 8 track album seems kind of lazy. It might be different if the rest of the songs were 7 - 8 minutes but.. They're not.

Well.....is there anyone think some riff in this release makes you think of the background music of Rockman X (Or you call...Megaman X)....:D
Next, good for The Faceless to have this special shot of try and put so many creativity inside their new album, not only brutal and harsh guitar solo to demonstrate how skillful the guitarist can be.
In my opinion, if their is no death vocal, this album can be another taste of masterpiece. Sometimes I think death vocal in this album is superfluous..

Anyone else think the clean vocals on this album sound extremely like Devin Townsend? I got pissed off while listening because I thought that Devin had "collaborated" with another metal band and thus ruined another album for me (I'm mostly referring to his work with Ihsahn and, yes, I've grown to strongly dislike Townsend's music).

In short, the clean vocals ruined what could have been a great album.

Written by Zombie94 on 22.09.2012 at 01:48

Anyone else think the clean vocals on this album sound extremely like Devin Townsend? I got pissed off while listening because I thought that Devin had "collaborated" with another metal band and thus ruined another album for me (I'm mostly referring to his work with Ihsahn and, yes, I've grown to strongly dislike Townsend's music).

In short, the clean vocals ruined what could have been a great album.

So you are saying Ihsahn's latest album was completely ruined since Devin sings a couple of seconds in just one song?
Either way, I can understand you don't like Devin's music, but sounds a bit childish to hate everything he participates in. And more with such minimal collaborations as in Eremita.

Written by Unhealer on 22.09.2012 at 06:46

Written by Zombie94 on 22.09.2012 at 01:48

Anyone else think the clean vocals on this album sound extremely like Devin Townsend? I got pissed off while listening because I thought that Devin had "collaborated" with another metal band and thus ruined another album for me (I'm mostly referring to his work with Ihsahn and, yes, I've grown to strongly dislike Townsend's music).

In short, the clean vocals ruined what could have been a great album.

So you are saying Ihsahn's latest album was completely ruined since Devin sings a couple of seconds in just one song?
Either way, I can understand you don't like Devin's music, but sounds a bit childish to hate everything he participates in. And more with such minimal collaborations as in Eremita.

No, I'm saying Townsend ruined it FOR ME. I'm not claiming it as fact, some people liked it. (And to clarify, one song alone did not ruin the entire album, but it contributed to an entire album that just wasn't to my taste). I never said I hate Devin Townsend, I said strongly dislike. I used to like him, but I've lost all interest in him in recent albums, partly due to the vocals he's been using. Why you think strongly disliking an artist is 'childish', is beyond me.

Written by Zombie94 on 22.09.2012 at 10:24

Why you think strongly disliking an artist is 'childish', is beyond me.

Oh, that's a lot better. It's not childish, I just got you wrong.

Written by I_Die_Often on 21.08.2012 at 05:42

Written by Guest on 19.08.2012 at 01:58

Let's see I_ Die_Often bitch about this.

I'll listen, then I'll trash it
As I've said, maybe their albums are better, but I've had enuf of them live.

I actually have a copy in my itunes now, I'll listen to it someday.

Yeah some heavy HevyDevy worship going on here. Addictive though.

Honestly expected more from this album, Planetary Duality I'll take out unless something better in the future

Much more sophisticated song structures than Planetary Duality. Although that album did have its positive aspects, each song on this album stands out significantly more. In addition, I think the clean vocals render the music much more interesting.

Tried this band, not my thing. I can take Obscura and Nile better than this. Fair comparison? I am really not into technical death metal.

Mid way through just the second track, and I can say this is a damn fine release of extreme metal. reminds me a bit of between the buried and me

Written by Ag Fox on 08.12.2012 at 13:30

Mid way through just the second track, and I can say this is a damn fine release of extreme metal. reminds me a bit of between the buried and me

Really good indeed. Thanks for the suggestion dear! It's definitely a good mix between more extreme metal and prog.

Written by Ag Fox on 08.12.2012 at 13:30

Mid way through just the second track, and I can say this is a damn fine release of extreme metal. reminds me a bit of between the buried and me

It's interesting that you say BtBAM, because I was thinking more that I hear some of Opeth in them during the calmer interludes. I will have to listen more closely during the next listen.

Written by Ag Fox on 08.12.2012 at 13:30

Mid way through just the second track, and I can say this is a damn fine release of extreme metal. reminds me a bit of between the buried and me

Lol The Faceless are lightyears beyond BtBaM

They really reinvented themselves with this one. It just doesn't click with me though. As with all their albums.

Written by Auntie Sahar on 05.02.2013 at 06:24

Lol The Faceless are lightyears beyond BtBaM

Wait.. beyond? As in better?
I love both bands, but BtBaM's latest release made me think they were lightyears ahead of pretty much everyone.

What an amazing fucking album. Every song sounds distinct and stands out from the rest, something which I find to be exceedingly rare in the technical death department. A phenomenal effort !

Surprised at how much I enjoy this album now, given how much I used to despise everything The Faceless had done (I still hate the previous two albums). As a guitarist I have a certain appreciation for that aspect of the music, as it's a very interesting blend of styles. Michael Keene is a complete beast

The lyrics were great, crushing the "Superstition" and rising the "Wisdom" .
My final rating is "8.7" .

Awesome clean vocal.....