Ok, I am having a serious question now, as opposed to my Praxis comment earlier.

I would like to know what the difference between Jazz and Fusion is? I got this band called MCM from Markku and I totally dig it, so I wanted to check out some more. Would this be the right thread?

Fusion = jazz mixed with rock elements. Actually, the term technically means mixing any two musical styles together but it is most commonly used to describe jazz mixed with rock.

Ok, thank you very much.

Written by jupitreas on 04.03.2007 at 17:09

Fusion = jazz mixed with rock elements. Actually, the term technically means mixing any two musical styles together but it is most commonly used to describe jazz mixed with rock.

Also, jazz being mixed with other genres aswell.

This the best stuff I've heard in weeks, jazz influenced metal with heavy polyrhythmic riffs
http://www.myspace.com/actualtime

Written by Guest on 07.03.2007 at 01:47

This the best stuff I've heard in weeks, jazz influenced metal with heavy polyrhythmic riffs
http://www.myspace.com/actualtime

thanks for that anymore similar stuff?

You shood try Czech band Dark Gamballe ist wierd metal
MA says Death metal with folk, jazz and ethno influences but I had lsiten it and well IMO ist wierd miux between a lot of genres and jazz too

Written by Bad English on 16.03.2007 at 15:05

You shood try Czech band Dark Gamballe ist wierd metal
MA says Death metal with folk, jazz and ethno influences but I had lsiten it and well IMO ist wierd miux between a lot of genres and jazz too

The descriptions in MA are often crap, so I would reccomend not to take them too seriously.

Written by Guest on 16.03.2007 at 15:23

Written by Bad English on 16.03.2007 at 15:05

You shood try Czech band Dark Gamballe ist wierd metal
MA says Death metal with folk, jazz and ethno influences but I had lsiten it and well IMO ist wierd miux between a lot of genres and jazz too

The descriptions in MA are often crap, so I would reccomend not to take them too seriously.

I know, but i had hear Dark Gambella so, etleast there are jazz elements and and bout Dark Gambella ist hard describe that genre

Hey Milos Dodo Dolozal he are awsoem Czech Guitarrist who start whit heavy metal band Vitacit but tehn in 1992 start solo project



Milos Dogo Dolozal(techivaly ist not posible spell his name here)
Ok I know its not instrumentals but you shood try this ''Dodo hraje Hendrixe'' Dodo play hendrix, he translate his song in czceh languega I realy love this songs
''Vítr volá Mary'' (Vind Cries Mary)
''Zámek snù a kouzel'' IMO its Spanish Castel Magic

But his instrumental album are ''Nejvy??í vibrace'' and its werry good whit hard rock/jazz influencies

Well, Jazz/rock fusion is a type of jazz in which musicians attempt to expand the boundaries of jazz by incorporating elements from rock and other musical styles as metal, which is visibly clear nowadays with the appearances of bands like Cynic, Gordian Knot, Hacride, Syrinx, Aghora, Aeon Spoke, Alarum and many others. Actually, I can't leave this style behind me without listening to it everyday, and if you are into it, you can see that this style combines the attitude and energy of rock with the harmonic sophistication and improvisational freedom of jazz to give a nectar of sweet authenticity.

I recommend it to all of you, confident that It will please you...

good jazz metal:

Atheist
Cynic
(later) Cryptopsy
Nuclear Rabbit

My blakc metal band did a jam with a fantastic saxophonist who is heavily into free/angry music the other week, it sounded totaly insane. If we do it again and record it I'll post.

Opeth-Still life
That entire album uses alot of jazzy sounding elements in it.

another band would be Cryptopsy, songs like 'Keeping the Cadaver dogs busy' which has a jazz intro made me notice how alot of cryptopsy stuff has jazz elements, even the heavy parts, you just got know where/how to look for it.

Finally managed to check out Planet X's first album Universe(2000), thats some pretty solid metal fusion. Reccommended

well I see here a relly interesting subject first of all I consider the Metal/jazz fusion as the most interesting
musical inventionIam playin that kind of stuff with my band actually it is some kind of brutal and jazz that stuff really kick ass!! I discovered it with necrophagist many persons will probably say that there is no jazz in necrophagist's stuff I think that yes ! even if it is not using clean guitar sounds it remains a metamorphose of turkish jazz, I also listen to sleep terror, continuo renacer trepalium or farmacon as well in wich jazz is much more evident!

I personally think the label "jazz metal" is slapped onto Cynic and Atheist very loosely. Just because Atheist wrote one 2 minute Bossanovaish piece doesn't make them jazzy. Killer bands nevertheless

I don't know if it's been discussed before, but a great band mixing jazz and blues music with the death metal music, is Subterranean Masquerade.
Check their myspace too http://www.myspace.com/subterraneanmasquerade

A very nice fusion band, definately worth checking out: Co-Conspirator

Also, another great band is a Greek one playing progressive metal mixed with latin, jazz and ethnic! A great mix.
The band is rather unknown and that's a shame cause they are amazing. If you can, find their first album "Excerpts..." because it's a masterpiece! I don't know about their other releases, but this album is amazing!
Check the band http://www.fragilevastness.com

Written by Too many fail. on 17.09.2007 at 15:18

I personally think the label "jazz metal" is slapped onto Cynic and Atheist very loosely. Just because Atheist wrote one 2 minute Bossanovaish piece doesn't make them jazzy. Killer bands nevertheless

Cynic is heavily jazzy in some sections though...textures...one of my favourite tunes...is mostly made of jazz sections.

Written by Guest on 26.09.2007 at 18:22

Written by Too many fail. on 17.09.2007 at 15:18

I personally think the label "jazz metal" is slapped onto Cynic and Atheist very loosely. Just because Atheist wrote one 2 minute Bossanovaish piece doesn't make them jazzy. Killer bands nevertheless

Cynic is heavily jazzy in some sections though...textures...one of my favourite tunes...is mostly made of jazz sections.

Lol what kind of jazz do you listen to?
Seriously though, this is my point exactly, just because the song has clean reverby guitar parts and some interval harmonies does not make it jazz but a lot of people seem to disagree. Im listening to it right now and I hear NO jazz whatsoever. even though you could start arguing that jazz is such a wide genre that cynic could be classified as jazzy, I still wouldn't say so.

check out Yakuza. Experimental/Prog with massive jazz influences. http://www.myspace.com/yakuza

Written by Too many fail. on 26.09.2007 at 20:20

Written by Guest on 26.09.2007 at 18:22

Written by Too many fail. on 17.09.2007 at 15:18

I personally think the label "jazz metal" is slapped onto Cynic and Atheist very loosely. Just because Atheist wrote one 2 minute Bossanovaish piece doesn't make them jazzy. Killer bands nevertheless

Cynic is heavily jazzy in some sections though...textures...one of my favourite tunes...is mostly made of jazz sections.

Lol what kind of jazz do you listen to?
Seriously though, this is my point exactly, just because the song has clean reverby guitar parts and some interval harmonies does not make it jazz but a lot of people seem to disagree. Im listening to it right now and I hear NO jazz whatsoever. even though you could start arguing that jazz is such a wide genre that cynic could be classified as jazzy, I still wouldn't say so.

Well that would be down to your own personal opinion. not just the clean sections sound jazzy. some of the riffs sound very jazzy, just cause it's fast or has some distorion on it dosent take that away from it. that's my opinion anyway.

Behold... The Arctopus
http://www.myspace.com/beholdthearctopus

Apparently Jordan Rudess does a guest appearance on the album.

Written by Damnated on 26.09.2007 at 20:48

check out Yakuza. Experimental/Prog with massive jazz influences. http://www.myspace.com/yakuza

I love this band! The sax player rocks out so well with the hardcore influence in this band...very nicely done...

As much i have heard Candiria, they have some fusion bits mingling with the rap vs metal outfit. Good music if you are able to tolerate the occasional rap vocals and hip hop beat.

http://www.myspace.com/candiria

I forgot to mention Dark Hall. Awesome jazz project with a certain metal/rock feeling due to the influence of it's member(s).

All tracks available at : http://www.stevedigiorgio.com/darkhall/index.html

I'd have to recommend Lye by Mistake to anyone who's into Jazz.
Well, depending on what sort of noise you can take. They mix some sort of Mathcore with Jazz to create this beautifully chaotic blend of sound.

More in reference to their debut album, now it seems as if they're headed in a more Progressive Metal sort of direction.

http://www.myspace.com/lyebymistake

Money Eating Mary is the only new material up.

I would like to recommend you Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects, i cant tell you what genre it is but there are definitely jazz influences in it.
frederik thordendal on guitar
tomas haake does some of the vocals
Morten Agren plays drums

check out missing time out of the album sol niger within v.3.33!