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Posted by Groby94, 11.10.2014 - 19:08
I just noticed this happening today. I checked all of the top albums this year and most of their ratings suddenly went down, and that's because of several 1 ratings appeared out of nowhere during the night.

Something should be done about this, not because of stupid reasons as "my favorite band isn't 1st place omg". The rating system should reflect the real overall opinion of the users on the album (duh), and it should help other users decide whether they would want to give the album a shot or not (among other factors, of course).
28.12.2020 - 06:12
sgtrobo

Written by Klauwier on 24.12.2020 at 15:20

Can you check this one as well:
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=189542


holy crap, out of 747 votes, 521 have been 10s?!?!?!
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28.12.2020 - 09:17
JoHn Doe

Written by sgtrobo on 28.12.2020 at 06:12

Written by Klauwier on 24.12.2020 at 15:20

Can you check this one as well:
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=189542


holy crap, out of 747 votes, 521 have been 10s?!?!?!


strangely I don't think it's abuse this time. Could be that he's rather generous.
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28.12.2020 - 10:11
nikarg

Written by Klauwier on 24.12.2020 at 15:20

Can you check this one as well:
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=189542

I get where you're coming from, there is a ton of 10s but I don't see that the user tries to boost some and tank others. Like JoHn DoE said, he/she is rather generous and probably mainly/only rates albums he/she likes a lot. If we deleted those votes, then we'd then have to delete half of our users' album votes too.
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29.12.2020 - 23:26
sgtrobo

A buddy of mine literally has several hundred albums he'd consider 10s. go figure...
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29.01.2021 - 10:13
Ball Fondlers

This aint cool. Binary voting 1 or 10. I noticed it because I was wondering why the new Accept album was so so low.
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=235685&r_order=year

Another with all 10s: http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=255009&r_order=year
maybe less of an issue, but it does ruin the ratings a bit.
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29.01.2021 - 12:01
nikarg

Written by Ball Fondlers on 29.01.2021 at 10:13

This aint cool. Binary voting 1 or 10. I noticed it because I was wondering why the new Accept album was so so low.
http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=235685&r_order=year

Another with all 10s: http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=255009&r_order=year
maybe less of an issue, but it does ruin the ratings a bit.

Both have been dealt with.
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16.02.2021 - 00:07
Redel

Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=124808

1s on all Iced Earth albums -- for obvious reasons, still sort of abusive I think
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16.02.2021 - 00:30
nikarg

Written by Redel on 16.02.2021 at 00:07

1s on all Iced Earth albums -- for obvious reasons, still sort of abusive I think

Indeed.
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03.03.2021 - 20:00
Starvynth
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This guy only likes two-digit ratings. He likes them a lot.
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03.03.2021 - 22:14
Karlabos
Meat and Potatos
^Wow, some bands really do release a lot of perfect stuff, apparently.
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04.03.2021 - 11:58
nikarg

Written by Starvynth on 03.03.2021 at 20:00

This guy only likes two-digit ratings. He likes them a lot.

Not anymore.
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04.04.2021 - 17:11
metaladdicted

Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=295605
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04.04.2021 - 18:30
nikarg

Written by metaladdicted on 04.04.2021 at 17:11

Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=295605

Done.
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30.04.2021 - 14:57
Bulletpr00fMonk

Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=190875

Seems very bipolar to me.
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30.04.2021 - 15:01
JoHn Doe

Written by Bulletpr00fMonk on 30.04.2021 at 14:57

Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=190875

Seems very bipolar to me.


yes, definitely it's rating abuse.
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30.04.2021 - 21:17
nikarg

^ Taken care of.
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01.05.2021 - 14:13
Roman Doez
Hallucigenia
Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=289022
This guy is extremely harsh in his votes, I'm not sure whether or not it's rating abuse, just wanted to point it out
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01.05.2021 - 16:54
JoHn Doe

Written by Roman Doez on 01.05.2021 at 14:13

Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=289022
This guy is extremely harsh in his votes, I'm not sure whether or not it's rating abuse, just wanted to point it out


I'm not sure if it's rating abuse either. I also don't think he follows the MS rating guidelines.
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01.05.2021 - 19:20
nikarg

Written by Roman Doez on 01.05.2021 at 14:13

Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=289022
This guy is extremely harsh in his votes, I'm not sure whether or not it's rating abuse, just wanted to point it out

This isn't vote abuse and, in my opinion, being harsh also balances all the ridiculous overrating.
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01.05.2021 - 23:02
Mehrad

Written by Roman Doez on 01.05.2021 at 14:13

Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=289022
This guy is extremely harsh in his votes, I'm not sure whether or not it's rating abuse, just wanted to point it out

this guy gave the new Architects a 7 and Fortitude 1 ??? also lots and lots of 1 2 3 votes
how is that not rating abuse
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01.05.2021 - 23:06
Mehrad

Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=305003
it seems like this guy just made an account to give the new Gojira a 1
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04.05.2021 - 10:12
Mehrad

Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=282671
this guy is very funny
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04.05.2021 - 10:44
JoHn Doe

Written by Mehrad on 04.05.2021 at 10:12

Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=282671
this guy is very funny


some really weird ratings there, I don't know if it's abuse or trolling or someone with some strange music taste.
Made me roll my eyes a few times.
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09.05.2021 - 19:37
ChapuLviz
Tropical Goat
Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=214953
What do you think of this guy? It seemed strange to me that he voted a record that at the moment only the most die-hard fans of the band can get (http://www.metalstorm.net/bands/album.php?album_id=129544).
He has 4 thousand votes, and he was registered in 2019. I don't know, it seems suspicious to me.
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09.05.2021 - 19:46
JoHn Doe

Written by ChapuLviz on 09.05.2021 at 19:37

Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=214953
What do you think of this guy? It seemed strange to me that he voted a record that at the moment only the most die-hard fans of the band can get (http://www.metalstorm.net/bands/album.php?album_id=129544).
He has 4 thousand votes, and he was registered in 2019. I don't know, it seems suspicious to me.


I've seen this guy's ratings a few times, often negative, really strange (same as the guy above).
And it's true, he only rates albums, never commented or posted. Maybe the mods/admins need to have a look and decide what to do, is it abuse or not...
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09.05.2021 - 23:26
Redel

Written by JoHn Doe on 09.05.2021 at 19:46

Written by ChapuLviz on 09.05.2021 at 19:37

Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=214953
What do you think of this guy? It seemed strange to me that he voted a record that at the moment only the most die-hard fans of the band can get (http://www.metalstorm.net/bands/album.php?album_id=129544).
He has 4 thousand votes, and he was registered in 2019. I don't know, it seems suspicious to me.


I've seen this guy's ratings a few times, often negative, really strange (same as the guy above).
And it's true, he only rates albums, never commented or posted. Maybe the mods/admins need to have a look and decide what to do, is it abuse or not...


How the hell is this supposed to be rating abuse?
To me this rating distribution looks close to like everybody's rating distribution is supposed to look like (but unfortunately only rarely does).
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09.05.2021 - 23:56
JoHn Doe

Written by Redel on 09.05.2021 at 23:26

Written by JoHn Doe on 09.05.2021 at 19:46

Written by ChapuLviz on 09.05.2021 at 19:37

Http://www.metalstorm.net/users/album_votes.php?user_id=214953
What do you think of this guy? It seemed strange to me that he voted a record that at the moment only the most die-hard fans of the band can get (http://www.metalstorm.net/bands/album.php?album_id=129544).
He has 4 thousand votes, and he was registered in 2019. I don't know, it seems suspicious to me.


I've seen this guy's ratings a few times, often negative, really strange (same as the guy above).
And it's true, he only rates albums, never commented or posted. Maybe the mods/admins need to have a look and decide what to do, is it abuse or not...


How the hell is this supposed to be rating abuse?
To me this rating distribution looks close to like everybody's rating distribution is supposed to look like (but unfortunately only rarely does).


Maybe it's not rating abuse, but it's definitely strange to me, looks like he takes a lot of time and effort to listen to stuff he does not like or something, there are way too many 1 and 2 and other very negative ratings.
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10.05.2021 - 14:29
Redel

Written by JoHn Doe on 09.05.2021 at 23:56

there are way too many 1 and 2 and other very negative ratings.

And how many 1 and 2 should there be?
There are about as many 1s and 2 as there are 10s and 9s.
There are much fewer 3s than there are 8s and there are much fewer 4s + 5s together than 7s.
Why are there too many negative ratings? seriously...
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10.05.2021 - 14:39
JoHn Doe

Written by Redel on 10.05.2021 at 14:29

Written by JoHn Doe on 09.05.2021 at 23:56

there are way too many 1 and 2 and other very negative ratings.

And how many 1 and 2 should there be?
There are about as many 1s and 2 as there are 10s and 9s.
There are much fewer 3s than there are 8s and there are much fewer 4s + 5s together than 7s.
Why are there too many negative ratings? seriously...


there are more than 600 albums with negative rating, seems this guy likes to torture himself then with music that does nothing for him. If that is not strange, I don't know what is.
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10.05.2021 - 15:12
Redel

Written by JoHn Doe on 10.05.2021 at 14:39

there are more than 600 albums with negative rating, seems this guy likes to torture himself then with music that does nothing for him. If that is not strange, I don't know what is.

Well, I have heard almost 1,000 albums that I rated 5 or lower. Not that much a torture that was for me though (well, maybe those 3 and lower were ).
Giving negative ratings rather helps me a lot, at balancing out my rating distribution that is. Keeps me from inflating my ratings.
Say, after having heard three albums I rated 5 there may come an album that I like much more than those three. I can then easily rate this 7 at max, and thereby reserve 8s and higher for the albums I really, really, really like.
Does that make sense?
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