MegaTheJester
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THANK YOU FOR THE REVIEW!! - I've spent SO much time constantly defending this album against people who want all heavy and nothing more. - I mean, diversity is the strongest strut of heavy metal, and this album gave that. It's the same tale for PK69's "Changes" or Axxis' "Voodoo Vibes/Matters of survival". - Experimentation brings a LOT of blessings. This album was one of them.
Although, if I ever meet Helloween, I'd sit them down, give them a drink and say "Sooo... remember the chameleon album? 'You guys don't talk about it anymore... what's THAT about?" - Or! I'd say "Hey, remember the Chameleon album? Well, how about re-recording it NOW adding what you've learned to it..." that would be OMEGA.
...And if you don't wanna remake the whole thing... ...remake Crazy Cat... ...Just for me?
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Guib Thrash Talker
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06.10.2010 - 08:49Rating: 7
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Written by Dark Seraphim on 16.12.2008 at 01:27
Written by Spyroid on 16.12.2008 at 00:48
Written by Dark Seraphim on 15.12.2008 at 23:10
If you think of this album not being a Helloween album then it's brilliant, a very catchy pop/metal/rock album. As a Helloween album it's quite confusing. I know that Helloween were at the experimental peak when they released this. I hope no-one who has never heard Helloween picks it up first because they would not get what the band is about. Personally I like the album....but 9 is a little high
I even think it's good for a Helloween album, very even Better than Time of the Oath, Master of the Rings and The Dark Ride, and quite close to many other albums - mainly because it has so many good songs. Keeper 1 is great but there's only six songs if you don't count the quite meaningless outro and the intro. Chameleon contains 100 % more songs, and I like almost all of them - so I think Chameleon can compete quite well about being one of the best Helloween albums. I think I'm pretty alone with that opinion
I meant that it doesn't have a Helloween "sound" to it. It's a good album, just not a good reflection of what the band is like as a whole. There are some great songs on it, "First Time", " I Believe", "Crazy Cats" etc. It a very enjoyable listen, though it did take me by suprise when I first heard it. It is a better album than Master of the Rings and Dark Ride. But not Time of the Oath, love that album. Good review though, sorry, forgot to mention that...
Oh well I don't think Chameleon is better than Dark Ride at all... Just an Opinion though
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RavenKing
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Written by [user id=35298] on 07.10.2008 at 06:22
I love Helloween...but this album is bad.
Let's start by saying this I am not one of those who said this album is not good just because it's not metal...let's put it like this:
This album is not very as good as a hard rock/progressive rock/pop album at all either, it's alright but no more than that. The song "When The Sinner" sounds like a mix between Tina Turner and Phil Collins late 80's releases. "I don't want to cry no more" sounds like it has a few ABBA influences and some progressive rock influences but none of them are very well implemented.
What I hate about all this is that Helloween deny the album and all because it was a commercial failure, if the album had been a commercial success despite the changes then the band would've probably said it was a great album or their best album which is what pisses me off.
Creativity-wise I think they somehow must liked it themselves otherwise they wouldn't have released it (the same with Pink Bubbles Go Ape), are you going to tell me that they were in turmoil in the band for like 3 years and nobody (except Kansen) left the band and then even released Chameleon? c'mon...that's what I hate sometimes, money matters more!
PS: This album also has some influences of Glam...after all it's Kiske's fault since he was a pompous ass and a pop/mainstream idiot (listen to most of his solo albums, mainstream/pop/adult contemporary shit!).
This album sucks. Pure mainstream commercial garbage. People hated this garbage so much back in the days that it almost led to Helloween's demise. The band was pretty much dead when Deris joined, due to Helloween being pathetic and shitty back then. If you read the short interview included in the booklet of the expanded version of "Walls of Jericho", Weikath himself admits that "If it wasn't for the shitty contract we had with Noise Records, we would never have had to develop commercial ideas like the Chameleon album".
They released this piece of crap only for commercial reasons.
I totally agree about Kiske. He was a mainstream poser and very swollen-headed.
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They shake your hand and they smile and they buy you a drink
They say we'll be your friends we'll stick with you till the end
But everybody's only looking out for themselves
And you say who can you trust I'll tell you nobody
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Metal Invader
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06.10.2010 - 16:07Rating: 6
I dont like this album as HELLOWEEN album..and as i dont like pop-rock..well sorry..! And i agree too about Kiske..he is a great vocalist but an idiot who almoust ruin Helloween(and ofcours label compay) with his music direction..that is my opinion..
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Guib Thrash Talker
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06.10.2010 - 22:16Rating: 7
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Written by [user id=35298] on 07.10.2008 at 06:22
I love Helloween...but this album is bad.
Let's start by saying this I am not one of those who said this album is not good just because it's not metal...let's put it like this:
This album is not very as good as a hard rock/progressive rock/pop album at all either, it's alright but no more than that. The song "When The Sinner" sounds like a mix between Tina Turner and Phil Collins late 80's releases. "I don't want to cry no more" sounds like it has a few ABBA influences and some progressive rock influences but none of them are very well implemented.
What I hate about all this is that Helloween deny the album and all because it was a commercial failure, if the album had been a commercial success despite the changes then the band would've probably said it was a great album or their best album which is what pisses me off.
Creativity-wise I think they somehow must liked it themselves otherwise they wouldn't have released it (the same with Pink Bubbles Go Ape), are you going to tell me that they were in turmoil in the band for like 3 years and nobody (except Kansen) left the band and then even released Chameleon? c'mon...that's what I hate sometimes, money matters more!
PS: This album also has some influences of Glam...after all it's Kiske's fault since he was a pompous ass and a pop/mainstream idiot (listen to most of his solo albums, mainstream/pop/adult contemporary shit!).
Agreeing lol
I don't find anything special, original or interesting with this album
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renai
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02.11.2011 - 02:53Rating: 9
Take a away the Helloween and power metal , this album will be a classic, maybe in hard rock category. I really love this, especially now the nostalgic factor subjectivity a lot ... . I less listen to this back there and now when re listen I can't believe how good it was.
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gnirpz
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21.11.2014 - 18:13Rating: 8
I think nobody like this album at the first listen. But it will grow, thurst me... il will grow... I gave a 8 for this one. It way more creative than Pink Bubbles. Ballads are memorable and Kiske push his voice at another level, not higher level, just another, different. Not all the songs are good, but overall, I really like this album.
I red some comments here, and one about Ingo that I aggreed. Yes, I believe is one of the most underated drummer.
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Lord_Regnier
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Written by deadone on 24.11.2014 at 03:29
I really like WIndmill. Great song.
It's a pity that Ingo is dead, you could ask his opinion about this song.
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"Why would we fear death, when life is so much more frightening?"
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nb
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26.08.2015 - 21:05Rating: 8
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Interesting. in the 90's I heard all of Helloween's stuff up to Pink Bubbles. I loved the Keepers, and I even thought Pink Bubbles was a nice listen. People told me Chamaleon was crap, and I never gave the album a chance. Come 2015 and I hear a couple of songs from the Album and I think, hey sounds a lot like Pink bubbles, which is not a bad thing. So here I am listening to the whole album and it is not bad at all, definitely not your usual Helloween heavy metal, but the guitar work is pretty good.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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I agree that those other factors what is not metal makes it somehow good. Well its better as st anger
st anger is nu metal, pop music is better as nu metal, many 80's pop songs are better, same this one, its not one of those smash whit an hammer chatergories, but keep deeper in the shell
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I stand whit Ukraine and Israel. They have right to defend own citizens.
Stormtroopers of Death - "Speak English or Die"
I better die, because I never will learn speek english, so I choose dieing
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