Release date: 12 October 2009
Style: Psychedelic black metal

Rating:

8.4 | 25 votes

Owners:

8 have it
5 want it


Womb
01. Those Beaten Paths Of Confusion
02. Beyond The Shadows Of Emptiness & Nothingness
03. Poison Yourself... With Thought

Grave
04. The Agents Of Transformation
05. Drowning In The Pain Of Consciousness
06. Deny The Disease Of Life

Lyrics (6)


Additional info
Tape by Dismal Cursings for EU and rest of world, limitation undisclosed.
Tape by Crepúsculo Negro for USA, limited to 100 handnumbered copies.
Tape reissue via Crepúsculo Negro in 2010, limited to 200 handnumbered copies.

Both versions have the same music and artwork. The only difference is that Dismal Cursings' version has pro-printed cassettes, while the US version has a sticker on the cassettes instead and includes a patch.
The Crepúsculo Negro reissue comes on a clear tape, without stickers and patch.

Cover art from the film "Begotten"

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mz - 20.07.2014 at 16:08  
Rating: 10
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 20.07.2014 at 16:00

Welcome to the club

More like a nightmarish ritualistic party, and I love it
!J.O.O.E.! - 20.07.2014 at 16:10  
 
Written by mz on 20.07.2014 at 16:08

More like a nightmarish ritualistic party, and I love it

There will be goats and wine. Oh wait, I hate wine. There will be goats and milkshake.
Paz - 20.07.2014 at 22:31  
 
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 20.07.2014 at 16:10

Oh wait, I hate wine.

You would changed your mind, if tried to Polish low-budget classic named "Leśny Dzban" ("The Forest Pitcher" translating into English) in a fucking bag Sadly no longer available.
!J.O.O.E.! - 20.07.2014 at 22:32  
 
Written by Paz on 20.07.2014 at 22:31

You would changed your mind, if tried to Polish low-budget classic named "Leśny Dzban" ("The Forest Pitcher" translating into English) in a fucking bag Sadly no longer available.

That sounds like the nectar of the Gods! I'm guessing people died from it or something?
Paz - 20.07.2014 at 22:47  
 
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 20.07.2014 at 22:32

That sounds like the nectar of the Gods! I'm guessing people died from it or something?

Cheers!
!J.O.O.E.! - 20.07.2014 at 22:53  
 
Written by Paz on 20.07.2014 at 22:47

Cheers!

Pure class in a bag
Lit. - 22.09.2014 at 05:36  
  Room for one more?

Also, that wine in a bag is making my mouth water, and I don't even drink alcohol.
Dead Eternity - 04.11.2014 at 21:46  
Rating: 10 Holy shit, this album is so fucking good

But why is this considered Psychedelic Black?
!J.O.O.E.! - 04.11.2014 at 21:51  
 
Written by Dead Eternity on 04.11.2014 at 21:46


But why is this considered Psychedelic Black?

Read through the comments on the first page. The reasoning is hardly conclusive but I still think it fits the music (and the collective they belong to). Ultimately "psychedelic" black metal is not something that is easy to identify, not in my view anyway as i don't think psychedelic music is incumbent on having plinky-plonky melotrons and keyboards (which this album obviously has none of).
Diverge - 20.11.2014 at 05:41  
Rating: 10 Wow this is phenomenal. Thanks to the shoutbox for directing me here.
mz - 21.11.2014 at 00:37  
Rating: 10
Written by Diverge on 20.11.2014 at 05:41

Wow this is phenomenal. Thanks to the shoutbox for directing me here.

No way. Give it a 10 or leave the party.
Alex Fenger - 21.11.2014 at 00:43  
Rating: 10
Written by mz on 21.11.2014 at 00:37

No way. Give it a 10 or leave the party.

I second this. One of the albums closest to being perfect that I've ever heard. Probably top 5 records of all time for me.
Diverge - 21.11.2014 at 02:02  
Rating: 10
Written by mz on 21.11.2014 at 00:37

Written by Diverge on 20.11.2014 at 05:41

Wow this is phenomenal. Thanks to the shoutbox for directing me here.

No way. Give it a 10 or leave the party.

I was more thinking a 7.
Maco - 12.07.2015 at 23:25  
Rating: 9 So good holy shit.
!J.O.O.E.! - 09.12.2015 at 18:02  
  I don't understand how this is so good. Would probably give this 11 / 10 if I could.
Alex Fenger - 09.12.2015 at 18:29  
Rating: 10
Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 09.12.2015 at 18:02

I don't understand how this is so good. Would probably give this 11 / 10 if I could.

Yeah you know, it's alright I guess...if you're into that sort of thing
!J.O.O.E.! - 09.12.2015 at 18:39  
 
Written by Alex Fenger on 09.12.2015 at 18:29

that sort of thing

You know deadone is all like:

mz - 24.12.2015 at 12:31  
Rating: 10 I have came to realization that this is the best black metal record ever, beating LoC and TWWTTG. Too prefect to be matched.
!J.O.O.E.! - 24.12.2015 at 19:50  
 
Written by mz on 24.12.2015 at 12:31

I have came to realization that this is the best black metal record ever, beating LoC and TWWTTG. Too prefect to be matched.

I quite often think that whilst listening to this. It's pretty much unsurpassed.
Mr. Doctor - 24.12.2015 at 21:59  
Rating: 9 It's a brilliant album and I would put it in the same pedestal as TWWTTG.

But LOC is God-tier material for me. Just a different level for me. Well, I also don't like to compare bands when their style is too different.
!J.O.O.E.! - 24.12.2015 at 23:22  
  Yeah Arizmenda and LoC are quite different, so hard to gauge.
Maco - 25.12.2015 at 00:39  
Rating: 9 LOC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TWWTG > This album
mz - 25.12.2015 at 00:45  
Rating: 10 )This album> TWWTTG>LoC
While TWWTTG benefits from the best piece(s) of music ever made, it lacks a bit on the consistency department. LoC, I'd argue, it more unearthly in terms of style, but I still think that overal, it is my least favorite out of the bounch. Still not a complain, though, as I give these three 10.
WtVoI has became the 2nd most revisited album for me, after the tool's, and it might actually dethrone that album.
Dima - 25.12.2015 at 02:28  
  Boooooo get off the stage!
Maco - 25.12.2015 at 02:37  
Rating: 9
Written by Dima on 25.12.2015 at 02:28

Boooooo get off the stage!


+1
Lit. - 25.12.2015 at 17:40  
  Comparing this to such certified classics as LoC or TWWTG? At that caliber, you might as well be comparing new Simpsons episodes to old ones. It's great, but not that great.
!J.O.O.E.! - 25.12.2015 at 19:22  
  Nah, it's that great. No doubt about that. TWWTG hasn't actually stood the test of time as well as LoC because of the weaker black metal tracks. Makes up for it with the other songs of course as they're amongst the best ever made, but not so much as an album on the whole.

Your Simpsons analogy is a bit shit too, seeing as new Simpsons is garbage.
mz - 25.12.2015 at 20:15  
Rating: 10
Written by Guest on 25.12.2015 at 17:40

Comparing this to such certified classics as LoC or TWWTG? At that caliber, you might as well be comparing new Simpsons episodes to old ones. It's great, but not that great.

It depends on what you mean by classics. TWWTTG and LOC, while great, did not generate a wave of bands following them, unlike DsO. Maybe I am mixing classic with influential, but I really see not much diffrence beteeen these three records in terms of historical importance when we consider the time interval between the release datea.
!J.O.O.E.! - 25.12.2015 at 22:20  
 
Written by mz on 25.12.2015 at 20:15

It depends on what you mean by classics. TWWTTG and LOC, while great, did not generate a wave of bands following them, unlike DsO. Maybe I am mixing classic with influential, but I really see not much diffrence beteeen these three records in terms of historical importance when we consider the time interval between the release datea.

I would say BaN's influence is great, but far more subtle than DsO. I think TWWTG opened the way for industrial experimentation and other general forward thinkiness. It's hard to catalogue it though. I still love the album, but rarely do I listen to the whole thing; I usually combine songs with ones on Thematic... and skip the black metal tracks.
Lit. - 27.12.2015 at 08:20  
  Not sure where DsO came in the conversation, but okay.

The point is, it doesn't matter whether it's by influence or quality, this album is inferior in every which way compared to both TWWTG and LoC. So the Simpsons analogy is pretty spot on, as new Simpsons episodes are inferior to the old classics.
!J.O.O.E.! - 27.12.2015 at 13:08  
  But that would imply that this is shit, which it isn't. A better analogy, (from your rather incorrect perspective) would be, I don't know, old Futurama > newer Futurama. All brilliant, but older episodes were a tad better. Unlike Simpsons which went from great to totally pointless and terrible.

Even I, probably the biggest BaN fan on this site, and someone that once gave TWWTG 10 / 10 in a terrible review, finally realises that it's somewhat flawed from an album perspective. When virtually everyone talks about a handful of specific songs and never a bunch of others - even if they are good - you know it's not totally balanced. This one though can only be listened to as an album as it's totally cohesive, which makes it superior. Just like LoC, really.
Lit. - 27.12.2015 at 18:45  
  Okay, apparently I'm missing the part where TWWTG is apparently "unbalanced." What you're claiming about this album is how I listen to TWWTG: Front to back, almost never do I pick out an individual song unless its the final track. They all sound the same to me, but they sound good.

Touche on the Futurama analogy, though. That would've been a better example.
Zaphod - 27.12.2015 at 19:54  
Rating: 9 None of the three albums mentioned would come into consideration for "best black metal ever" for me, actually. I do agree that The Work Which Transforms God is not unbalanced. I listen to that album front to back 99% of the time. It is varied, but I think every song is pretty much on the same level quality-wise (except "Density" of course, but it's impossible to create an entire album of such consistently high quality in the first place)

Lurker Of Chalice feels more unbalanced to me. Like the way "Spectre As Valkerie Is" starts out with this boring out of place metal riff (*gasp*) before going into the holyshitwowamazing non-metal territory. Feels a bit disjointed at times. (not saying all of the metal bits feel out of place, but that one in particular could have been removed and I wouldn't miss it)

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