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Release date: 15 May 2013
Style: Gothic doom metal

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01. Stream Of Light
02. Refraction
03. Cinders
04. Astrarium
05. Nightwave
06. Ambivalence
07. Immersed
08. Above Us
09. Constellation

The Best Gothic/Symphonic Metal Album Of 2013
Top 20 albums of 2013: 13

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Line-up
Sébastien "Darkened" Pierre - keyboards, vocals
Jari Lindholm - guitars, keyboards, additional vocals

Session musicians
Oscar Borgenstam - drums
Sandy Mahrer - choir vocals
Siavosh Bigonah - bass

Guest review by
Fritillaria

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I start with saying that Origin as a whole has influences from early Katatonia. However I can't give a precise hint where exactly I hear it in the songs, though there is a whole melancholic atmosphere which reminds of early Katatonia works. Yet it differs so much because Katatonia, back in the day, sounded much more doomier, harsher and of course very original.

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published 19.09.2013 | Comments (24)

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tea[m]ster - 10.05.2013 at 15:26  
Rating: 9 Looking forward to this. Nightwave sounds terrific.
Pazdzioch - 10.05.2013 at 16:19  
  Yeah, these 2 tracks are fucking good too.



tea[m]ster - 10.05.2013 at 16:28  
Rating: 9
Written by Pazdzioch on 10.05.2013 at 16:19

Yeah, these 2 tracks are fucking good too.


The middle section of the first track is beautiful. Post metal passage ftw!
Pazdzioch - 12.05.2013 at 13:56  
  An exclusive stream of the entire album here. It will last until May 18, so hurry up!
tea[m]ster - 12.05.2013 at 16:35  
Rating: 9
Written by Pazdzioch on 12.05.2013 at 13:56

An exclusive stream of the entire album here. It will last until May 18, so hurry up!


Listening to this right now! Dam, sounds awesome. Candidate for my AOTY!
Array - 12.05.2013 at 18:55  
Rating: 7 A bit too uneventful perhaps. "Above Us" was one of the best tracks.
Góral - 14.05.2013 at 15:11  
Rating: 9 Jari Lindolm - this guy is a genius.
Bad English - 14.05.2013 at 20:04  
  Pretty good one, I was suprise, I am happy I find something totaly new what I reakly like
It was long time since I see music new music what I like in MS
Pazdzioch - 15.05.2013 at 14:11  
  Gothic doom really?
Monolithic - 16.05.2013 at 11:07  
Rating: 9 Fantastic.
Justicelust - 16.05.2013 at 12:59  
Rating: 10 I can't stop listening, I just can't.
Góral - 16.05.2013 at 15:41  
Rating: 9 I don't know who hear "gothic doom" in this album, but this one should listen to this once again.
Susan - 16.05.2013 at 19:12  
  This is amazing! Didn't think it would be so engaging but wow.

At times, the guitars and mood remind me of a faster version of Forest of Shadows - Departure, a doom gem that few have matched.

I suppose I may also call this "gothic doom" or some blending of those two genres, but only because I can't think of anything else to call it. Those who disagree, what do YOU call it?
Nefarious - 16.05.2013 at 19:47  
Rating: 9 Been excited about this for months, in fact I pre-ordered their album based purely on the strength of 'the two songs 'Nightwave' & 'Brighter' which they made available back in August/September of last year. After fully digesting the album over the last few days I can say it did not disappoint. It's definitely one of my favourite releases of 2013 so far.

As for the Gothic doom tag, I kinda agree with how the band tag themselves, Melodic Death/Doom.
Dark†SymphonY - 16.05.2013 at 22:01  
Rating: 8 Superb album, the atmosphere is so good and compelling to the max. It's Slumber reborn with the atmosphere of Atoma. Didn't hook me in first time, but its getting better with every listen.
Erik M. - 16.05.2013 at 23:27  
Rating: 8
Written by Susan on 16.05.2013 at 19:12

This is amazing! Didn't think it would be so engaging but wow.

At times, the guitars and mood remind me of a faster version of Forest of Shadows - Departure, a doom gem that few have matched.

I suppose I may also call this "gothic doom" or some blending of those two genres, but only because I can't think of anything else to call it. Those who disagree, what do YOU call it?


I agree, awesome stuff!

Actually I'd say this is atmospheric doom though. It reminds me a bit of Ixion, but faster.
Susan - 16.05.2013 at 23:39  
  I could see atmo death/doom or melodic death/doom as well. Not trying to get too hung up on genres, but this made me curious!

Nice little surprise of an album
PocketMetal - 18.05.2013 at 17:23  
 
Written by Susan on 16.05.2013 at 23:39

I could see atmo death/doom or melodic death/doom as well. Not trying to get too hung up on genres, but this made me curious!

Nice little surprise of an album


it's pretty predictable to hear awesome music from the guys of Slumber/Atoma though .
Erik M. - 18.05.2013 at 18:06  
Rating: 8 Great album. Better than Atoma's debut in my opinion.

Although I feel it could've been better since a few tracks feel a bit too short.
Susan - 18.05.2013 at 18:23  
 
Written by PocketMetal on 18.05.2013 at 17:23

Written by Susan on 16.05.2013 at 23:39

I could see atmo death/doom or melodic death/doom as well. Not trying to get too hung up on genres, but this made me curious!

Nice little surprise of an album


it's pretty predictable to hear awesome music from the guys of Slumber/Atoma though .


Is this former members if Slumber?? Well THAT makes perfect sense then!
tea[m]ster - 19.05.2013 at 02:38  
Rating: 9
Written by Susan on 16.05.2013 at 19:12

Those who disagree, what do YOU call it?


I can't see gothic at all. Maybe it's because I don't want to? LoL. Knowing the band members are from Fractal Gates, Atoma and Slumber I am swayed to hear more melodic metal with a dab of atmospheric rock.
tea[m]ster - 02.06.2013 at 17:10  
Rating: 9 I am really liking this ATM. Think Atoma and Fractal Gates merged. I only wish the songs/album was longer. It leaves me wanting more.
Until the End - 10.06.2013 at 04:22  
Rating: 9 Top 5 of the year stuff. Beautifully crafted and atmospheric melodic death/doom. I think 'Cinders' has to be my favourite track but 'Nightwave' is up there with it.
Monolithic - 12.07.2013 at 20:17  
Rating: 9 According to Jari, he sang the clean vocals on "Cinders".
ravendeath - 16.07.2013 at 17:25  
Rating: 9 I wonder why this album is not on the chart top of 2013 as it has higher rating than most of albums that are on it already?
Pazdzioch - 16.07.2013 at 18:41  
 
Written by ravendeath on 16.07.2013 at 17:25

I wonder why this album is not on the chart top of 2013 as it has higher rating than most of albums that are on it already?

Band's profile is invisible.
ravendeath - 16.07.2013 at 18:52  
Rating: 9
Written by Pazdzioch on 16.07.2013 at 18:41

Written by ravendeath on 16.07.2013 at 17:25

I wonder why this album is not on the chart top of 2013 as it has higher rating than most of albums that are on it already?

Band's profile is invisible.

So, it's time that admins make it visible!
dougver1 - 20.07.2013 at 16:59  
Rating: 9 Interesting that I got a bit of an AtomA vibe when I first listened to this (not that they outright sound exactly like AtomA, but some of their melodies reminded me of them)... then I found out it has an ex-member of AtomA! Fancy that!

Anyways, I dig it.
Marcel Hubregtse - 20.07.2013 at 17:08  
Rating: 5 Quite average gothic doom this. Yes there are quite a few gothic elements in it. Like the riffing and the keyboards. The riffing is as uneventful and unoriginal as it gets with it clearly borrowing from Draconian Times and One Second era Paradise Lost.
Rodney - 21.07.2013 at 07:28  
 
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.07.2013 at 17:08

The riffing is as uneventful and unoriginal as it gets


Listened to a few songs and I'd have to agree with this. I liked the atmosphere quite a bit, but the riffs were so boring it was just entirely off-putting :/
Fritillaria - 21.07.2013 at 16:28  
  There are some moments in this album that reminds me of Brave Murder Day ,or am I wrong ?
Pazdzioch - 22.07.2013 at 00:22  
  So finally (after all these years) I'll have my gothic type in 'MS Awards'
Góral - 22.07.2013 at 19:11  
Rating: 9
Written by Guest on 21.07.2013 at 16:28

There are some moments in this album that reminds me of Brave Murder Day ,or am I wrong ?

Do you have any specific moments/songs in mind? Personally it reminds me rather a Daylight Dies's work, especially their last albums. To this a little similarity to Rapture. But above all - Atoma/Slumber - with a characteristic Jari Lindholm's "space resonance". Personally I didn't associate with BMD. But this doesn't mean that it's not
Korah - 23.07.2013 at 02:11  
Rating: 7 Not bad but doesn't deserves to be on the top 20
BloodJuNkie - 08.08.2013 at 00:52  
Rating: 8 Not bad, honestly i would give it less than 7 but the mighty solo in "above us" song made change my mind
Androgenyus - 18.08.2013 at 05:41  
Rating: 8
Written by Guest on 21.07.2013 at 16:28

There are some moments in this album that reminds me of Brave Murder Day ,or am I wrong ?


Yeah, the intro of Stream of Light and at least the first half of Above Us.

Also hearing some Katatonia at the beginning of Cinders (My Twin / The Longest year ?).
SWAMPL0RD - 23.08.2013 at 00:04  
  They remind me a bit of In Mourning.
SpeedMax - 16.09.2013 at 10:00  
Rating: 10 Love it!
psykometal - 19.09.2013 at 23:13  
  Wow, this is really good. Wish I had checked it out sooner; I avoided it because of the Gothic tag, but it's really not so Gothic imo. More like either Atmospheric Doom or Melodic Death/Doom. Granted though I'm no expert at all on "Gothic metal" or "Doom metal", so I will have to check with some of my Doomster peeps if "Gothic" is really the right tag for this.
Marcel Hubregtse - 19.09.2013 at 23:38  
Rating: 5 This is purely gothic metal with some melodic doom metal in it, nothing more.
tea[m]ster - 20.09.2013 at 15:56  
Rating: 9
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.09.2013 at 23:38

This is purely gothic metal with some melodic doom metal in it, nothing more.


But do you like this Marcel? I am in love with this. It's something very new and refreshing from what I am used to.
Marcel Hubregtse - 20.09.2013 at 16:00  
Rating: 5
Written by tea[m]ster on 20.09.2013 at 15:56

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.09.2013 at 23:38

This is purely gothic metal with some melodic doom metal in it, nothing more.


But do you like this Marcel? I am in love with this. It's something very new and refreshing from what I am used to.


extremely average and quite bland and I don't find it refreshing or very new at all. Putting some post rock in a gothic metal album which has somedoom in it, so? What's so refreshing about that? You could say Rapture and SLumber had also already done that and those two bands are better than Enshine though still not great at all.

But then again you also find Steak Number Eght (of course operating in a different genre) refreshing and quite new
tea[m]ster - 20.09.2013 at 16:07  
Rating: 9
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.09.2013 at 16:00

extremely average and quite bland and I don't find it refreshing or very new at all. Putting some post rock in a gothic metal album which has somedoom in it, so? What's so refreshing about that? You could say Rapture and SLumber had also already done that and those two bands are better than Enshine though still not great at all.

But then again you also find Steak Number Eght (of course operating in a different genre) refreshing and quite new


Well dammit. With Enshine and SN8 I am trying to get you into some other types of metal. Don't get me wrong, we could listen to our favorite doom and post metal stuff all day. I want to expand our horizons!
Marcel Hubregtse - 20.09.2013 at 16:17  
Rating: 5
Written by tea[m]ster on 20.09.2013 at 16:07

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.09.2013 at 16:00

extremely average and quite bland and I don't find it refreshing or very new at all. Putting some post rock in a gothic metal album which has somedoom in it, so? What's so refreshing about that? You could say Rapture and SLumber had also already done that and those two bands are better than Enshine though still not great at all.

But then again you also find Steak Number Eght (of course operating in a different genre) refreshing and quite new


Well dammit. With Enshine and SN8 I am trying to get you into some other types of metal. Don't get me wrong, we could listen to our favorite doom and post metal stuff all day. I want to expand our horizons!


Steak Number Eight is standard post-metal and Enshine standard gothic metal with some melodic doom and one or two seconds of post rock thrown in. I am into more than enough sorts of metal anyway. Looking at your taste in metal and mine I would dare say I have a broader taste in metal than you.
I listen to everything from old school heavy metal to us power metal to speed metal to early European power to pic heavy metal to epic doom to black doom to funeral doom to death doom to traditional doom to symphonic black to raw black to orthodox black to melodic black to technical black to black death to old school death to some technical death to thrash to techno thrash to groove thrash to thrash punk crossover to funk metal to proper rap metal to post metal to some glam metal to sludge metal to stoner metal to sleaze metal to aor etc
tea[m]ster - 20.09.2013 at 16:20  
Rating: 9
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.09.2013 at 16:17

Looking at your taste in metal and mine I would dare say I have a broader taste in metal than you.


I would agree. But I am trying...

Are you at least looking forward to hearing the new Fates Warning album?
Marcel Hubregtse - 20.09.2013 at 16:40  
Rating: 5
Written by tea[m]ster on 20.09.2013 at 16:20

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.09.2013 at 16:17

Looking at your taste in metal and mine I would dare say I have a broader taste in metal than you.


I would agree. But I am trying...

Are you at least looking forward to hearing the new Fates Warning album?


Fates Warning I have given up on after Inside Out which I already didn't enjoy any more. Their first three were great though too Miaden inspired, my favourite is still No Exit
Erik M. - 02.10.2013 at 21:25  
Rating: 8
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.09.2013 at 16:40

Fates Warning I have given up on after Inside Out which I already didn't enjoy any more. Their first three were great though too Miaden inspired, my favourite is still No Exit


Most recent albums are disappointments to you it seems. Or you're just hard to please (harder than most people, that's for sure, hahaha).
psykometal - 03.10.2013 at 00:08  
 
Written by Erik M. on 02.10.2013 at 21:25

Most recent albums are disappointments to you it seems. Or you're just hard to please (harder than most people, that's for sure, hahaha).

It's a combination of the 2 really. -_-
Marcel Hubregtse - 03.10.2013 at 02:22  
Rating: 5 Well I am extremely hard to please given the fact I heard so much when it came out at the time
Fritillaria - 03.10.2013 at 08:52  
 
Written by Erik M. on 02.10.2013 at 21:25


Most recent albums are disappointments to you it seems. Or you're just hard to please (harder than most people, that's for sure, hahaha).

I think you said the same thing to me once

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