Nero Di Marte - Derivae



7.8 | 57 votes |
Release date: 27 October 2014
Style: Extreme progressive metal, Alternative metal

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01. L'Eclisse
02. Clouded Allure
03. Pulsar
04. Dite
05. Simulacra
06. Il Diluvio
07. Those Who Leave

Line-up
Sean Worrell - guitars, vocals
Francesco D'Adamo - guitars
Marco Bolognini - drums
Andrea Burgio - bass

Additional info
Recorded, mixed and mastered by Riccardo "Paso" Pasini at Studio73.

Staff review by
R'Vannith
Rating:
8.5
Sometimes it's difficult to discern what is truly progressive in metal. This is providing we all have preconceived notions of what it means for artists to push at the identifiable territorial boundaries of music that are more familiar to us, and facilitate sounds external to generic confines. The prospect of a band finding themselves located somewhere between Gojira, Tool and Ulcerate is something I could never have anticipated. Yet Nero Di Marte leave listeners in anticipation with each careful note, echoing technicalities throughout primordially death metal perpetuating atmosphere and flowing forms of sound hitherto uncharted. Exploration persists in Derivae.

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published 23.10.2014 | Comments (12)

Ever wondered how Ulcerate would sound if they were less extreme and more progressive? That's Nero Di Marte for you: a melodic take on the post-death sound, less suffocating but maybe more disquieting.



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01.11.2014 - 04:05
Rating: 9
mz
Listening to it right now. Fuck it's unbelievable.
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01.11.2014 - 04:33
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Written by mz on 01.11.2014 at 04:05

Listening to it right now. Fuck it's unbelievable.

indeed
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01.11.2014 - 04:40
Rating: 9
mz
With this record, Nero Di Marte are finding their own niche in metal territory. This sort of dissonance has been extensively used in harsher and more extreme metal records of black and death metal, and most famously by ulcerate. NDM just applies the concept to make more emotional and less suffocating music which is quiet bitter, instead of being disturbing. That alone makes this record quiet unique.
A certain deal of diversity is introduced and the whole package benefits from a literary prefect production.The vocals could be better, but they are not a big problem.
Regarding the genre tag, I think we should also add avantgarde term, just like what we did for Ulcerate.
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01.11.2014 - 04:42
Rating: 9
mz
Written by Darkside Momo on 01.11.2014 at 04:33

Written by mz on 01.11.2014 at 04:05

Listening to it right now. Fuck it's unbelievable.

indeed

Yeah. I was familiar with their previous record and loved that, too. Initially, I thought that the new one is not as good, but further investigation proved me wrong, fortunately.
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01.11.2014 - 04:43
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Written by mz on 01.11.2014 at 04:42

Written by Darkside Momo on 01.11.2014 at 04:33

Written by mz on 01.11.2014 at 04:05

Listening to it right now. Fuck it's unbelievable.

indeed

Yeah. I was familiar with their previous record and loved that, too. Initially, I thought that the new one is not as good, but further investigation proved me wrong, fortunately.

I find Derivae way better, as you said they found their niche, but the S/T is great in his own right
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01.11.2014 - 11:50
Paź
ex-News Man
Never ever heard about these guys... I should give it a go since that Ulcerate comparison sounds promising to say the least.

PS. The bandcamp's link is not working.
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01.11.2014 - 14:22
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Written by Paź on 01.11.2014 at 11:50

PS. The bandcamp's link is not working.

it does now
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01.11.2014 - 22:34
Paź
ex-News Man
Great first listen. Sick instrumental parts (love the guitar sound) but the vocal delivery could be better. And also, I fricking hate the Italian language in my metal. Sounds cheesy for some odd reason to me. But that's a minor complaints.

Definitely one of the best achievements this year has to offer.
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06.11.2014 - 02:23
Rating: 9
Diverge
Man, I'm very surprised to see most of the similarities to Hacride are gone (a band that more people should be emulating). BUT... this is probably an even better formula. It's a slightly more progressive version of Ulcerate and Derivae is much murkier than the last record, so I can't really complain.
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06.11.2014 - 20:06
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It's really quite good. Get lots of little things from other bands I like. Obviously Ulcerate (and consequently Neurosis I suppose) feel like the biggest similarity here, but the first track (and part of the final track, too) reminds me of Akercocke in their cleaner moments, and bits of Gojira splattered about the record, and even at times it reminds me of Leviathan's creepy instrumental ambience of 'A Silhouette In Splinters'. The vocal style could have potentially put me off, but I think Solstafir have trained me for it, and it's quite deep in the background not a concern and sounds quite decent.

I'm quite glad there's no Hacride here; I suspect I wouldn't have enjoyed it anywhere as near as much as I do =P never felt that band.

Future 9 / 10 album most probably.
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07.11.2014 - 02:19
Rating: 7
Ilham
Giant robot
I feel all what you guys are talking about, I don't want to the repeat the same things. But the vocals got on my nerves after a while.
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09.11.2014 - 17:33
Alex F
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Written by mz on 01.11.2014 at 04:05

Listening to it right now. Fuck it's unbelievable.

Yeah, it's fucking awesome. The Ulcerate comparisons are definitely warranted
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20.11.2014 - 03:53
Rating: 8
Jaeryd
Nihil's Maw
What the fuck is this? Sounds pretty great.
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13.12.2014 - 06:01
Rating: 8
tea[m]ster
Au Pays Natal
Goddammit, everything is fucking great about this album. It is MY KIND OF SHIT...except for....the vocals....ugh. Neurosis-esq moaning and groaning, yuck.
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13.12.2014 - 07:58
Rating: 6
Susan
Smeghead
Can't get into this. Their self-titled from last year blew my mind in new and amazing ways. This doesn't come close. Not at all bad, just not special like the previous album. The harshness is upped a bit too much; it feels obligatory. They've washed away what made last year's album incredible and left us with just some nice-ish music. Would give a 6.5 if I could.
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02.01.2015 - 02:43
3rdWorld
China was a neat
I don't even remember their record from last year but would've definitely listened to it. On the other hand though this album is incredible. The Ulcerate comparison is pretty accurate as well.
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04.02.2015 - 17:25
Rating: 9
flightoficarus
Stamp Tramp
If ever there was a grower, this is it. I am hypnotized by it, but not in a zen way. It's like staring into the abyss and being unable to look away. I do see the issues people have with the vocals. They can grate at times, particularly when he tries to drag out notes. Even so, it still manages to fit the music well. There are moments on "Dite" where I kept thinking about some of the slower Meshuggah tracks.
Enjoyability=8
Musicianship=8
Innovation=9
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04.02.2015 - 19:43
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Written by flightoficarus on 04.02.2015 at 17:25

If ever there was a grower, this is it. I am hypnotized by it, but not in a zen way. It's like staring into the abyss and being unable to look away. I do see the issues people have with the vocals. They can grate at times, particularly when he tries to drag out notes. Even so, it still manages to fit the music well. There are moments on "Dite" where I kept thinking about some of the slower Meshuggah tracks.
Enjoyability=8
Musicianship=8
Innovation=9

Cool, now you need to move to the next level and get on Ulcerate
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04.02.2015 - 19:59
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Written by Guest on 04.02.2015 at 19:43

Cool, now you need to move to the next level and get on Ulcerate

except that Ulcerate is boring
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04.02.2015 - 20:09
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Written by Darkside Momo on 04.02.2015 at 19:59

except that Ulcerate is boring

Oh Momo, stuck at Level 1...
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04.02.2015 - 20:19
Rating: 9
mz
Written by Darkside Momo on 04.02.2015 at 19:59


except that Ulcerate is boring




Edit: since smilie without accompanying text is a sort of spam, I just wanted to say that you are wrong.
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04.02.2015 - 20:30
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Written by Guest on 04.02.2015 at 20:09

Written by Darkside Momo on 04.02.2015 at 19:59

except that Ulcerate is boring

Oh Momo, stuck at Level 1...


Seriously, never understood the hype they get. They're original, sure, but tedious and a real snoozefest (for me at least). On the other hand, Flourishing are original AND interesting
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04.02.2015 - 20:31
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Written by mz on 04.02.2015 at 20:19

Written by Darkside Momo on 04.02.2015 at 19:59


except that Ulcerate is boring




Edit: since smilie without accompanying text is a sort of spam, I just wanted to say that you are wrong.


(no I'm not - because Ulcerate bores me for real)
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04.02.2015 - 20:32
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Written by Darkside Momo on 04.02.2015 at 20:30


Seriously, never understood the hype they get. They're original, sure, but tedious and a real snoozefest (for me at least). On the other hand, Flourishing are original AND interesting

Flourishing are more interesting, but Ulcerate are great for that textured death metal / wall of sound approach
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04.02.2015 - 20:40
Rating: 6
Zaph
Phlegmish
I'd say this easily beats Ulcerate as far as making me fall asleep goes.
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