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Which do you like most?

Princess Mononoke12
Spirited Away12
Nausicaä Of The Valley Of The Wind4
Howl's Moving Castle4
Laputa: Castle In The Sky2
Porco Rosso2
The Castle Of Cagliostro0
My Neighbour Totoro0
Kiki's Delivery Service0

Total votes: 36


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Posted by Baz Anderson on 10.08.2006 at 22:36
Right then. I hope a decent amount of people here will have seen a good handful of these films, they are all fantastic creations.

Hayao Miyazaki is probably most known for Spirited Away, but there have been many great films before that as well.

It all started with Hayao Miyazaki in 1979 and The Castle Of Cagliostro, a film about a thief who attempts to rescute a princess from the top of a castle.
haha okay it doesnt sound the msot original, but it is still a fantastic film.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_of_Cagliostro

1984 braught Nausicaä Of The Valley Of The Wind - his first epic film and the first that can be interpreted to have underlying messages. The story follows bug loving Princess Nausicaä on a piece making mission between remaining clans after a large apocalyptic event
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausica%C3%A4_of_the_Valley_of_Wind

1986 brings another majestic film in the form of Laputa: Castle In The Sky. The film follows two young adventurers on a mission to find the lost floating castle of Laputa before everyone else
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laputa:_Castle_in_the_Sky

1988 braught the second film with Studio Ghibli - My Neighbour Totoro, a rather bizarre film of two young girls and their father moving house and waiting for the mother to be released from hospital while in the meantime the girls keep seeing strange things
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Neighbour_Totoro

In 1989 we have more of a childrens film with Kiki's Delivery Service, a story of a young witch and cat staying away from home for a year as part of a witch tradition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiki%27s_Delivery_Service

1992 has a complete change though with probably the most 'adult' film with Porco Rosso - a man (or a pig) in the real world staying away from Italian officials who have a warrant for his arrest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porco_Rosso

Five years and in 1997 Princess Mononoke was unleashed upon us. This film was massive, it is such an epic film with many underlying issused concerning the world and nature
The films looks at the different points of view of humans trying to grow in their town, and nature who seems to suffer from the humans 'needs'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Mononoke

2001 braught Spirited Away and one of the biggest films ever made in Japan. The story follows a young girl in a different world trying to survive and bring her parents back to the real world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirited_Away

2004 was the last with Howl's Moving Castle, and to be honest - this is the only film here I havent seen. haha
as far as I know though, it is about a young girl taken to a scrappy metal castle
Anyone please feel free to tell me what it is about though
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howl%27s_Moving_Castle_%28film%29

Picking a favorite is going to be very hard though. For me it is out of Kiki's Delivery Service, Porco Rosso, Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away
They are all brilliant in their different ways.
Kiki's Delivery Service is a very innocent film about a lovely little girl and it just warms the heart doesnt it.. haha
I really didnt think I would like such a more 'mature' film so much as I did Porco Rosso. It is so true to life the things he comes out with and the whole mystery with him being a pig adds such a satirical element to it.
Princess Mononoke is such an epic film and is so important if you love nature as well - it really makes you look at humankind in different ways and almost makes you ashamed to be human
Spirited Away was the first film i watched in a different language and it was an experience. It is also such a long and epic film and exciting and convincingly real throughout.

Well its crunch time, I am tempted to vote Porco Rosso but I think it is going to have to go to Princess Mononoke.
Just watch it and you'll see why - just after the first quarter of an hour you know it is going to be one of the best films you have ever seen.

I am really really keen to hear what other people have to say on this subject - also if they prefer the films with English dubbing, or original Japanese with English subtitles.
I know there is already an animé thread, but I couldnt do a poll in there - and you cant squash such a huge subject into one thread.
It has taken me a long time typing all this up, so I hope I get lots of replys



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Baz Anderson

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  27.07.2010 at 12:59
Regarding the poll, this is by no means a Ghibli poll - as Isao Takahata's films are not mentioned here. Grave Of The Fireflies and Only Yesterday are two of my favourites... Only Yesterday is probably my #1 Ghibli film actually. My Neighbors The Yamadas has its charm too.
mismoree

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  19.08.2010 at 08:06
Spirited Away is like a classic to me: I've watched it so many times since I first saw it when I was 10. I watched Princess Mononoke when I was a bit older, so it's a really close second.
Diabolos
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  19.08.2010 at 12:12
Written by mismoree on 19.08.2010 at 08:06

Spirited Away is like a classic to me: I've watched it so many times since I first saw it when I was 10. I watched Princess Mononoke when I was a bit older, so it's a really close second.

Your avatar is great
mismoree

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  21.08.2010 at 00:01
Written by Diabolos on 19.08.2010 at 12:12

Written by mismoree on 19.08.2010 at 08:06

Spirited Away is like a classic to me: I've watched it so many times since I first saw it when I was 10. I watched Princess Mononoke when I was a bit older, so it's a really close second.

Your avatar is great


Yup, Lucy + Gun = Badassness
Diabolos
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  21.08.2010 at 00:36
Written by mismoree on 21.08.2010 at 00:01

Written by Diabolos on 19.08.2010 at 12:12

Written by mismoree on 19.08.2010 at 08:06

Spirited Away is like a classic to me: I've watched it so many times since I first saw it when I was 10. I watched Princess Mononoke when I was a bit older, so it's a really close second.

Your avatar is great


Yup, Lucy + Gun = Badassness

(although I don't really care for the gun )
Elio
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  26.08.2010 at 14:57
Ok so I wanted to see Miyazaki's movies and I started yesterday with Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind. I gotta say expectations were high, considering the positive reactions I had found on the web but I was terribly bored. The story wasn't that good, the soundtrack pretty bad (except for the la la la thing) so yeah, I expect better stuff from the other ones, which I'll see asap
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Nomcat

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  26.08.2010 at 20:05
Written by Elio on 26.08.2010 at 14:57

Ok so I wanted to see Miyazaki's movies and I started yesterday with Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind. I gotta say expectations were high, considering the positive reactions I had found on the web but I was terribly bored. The story wasn't that good, the soundtrack pretty bad (except for the la la la thing) so yeah, I expect better stuff from the other ones, which I'll see asap


Yeah, I actually just saw this one too. It was pretty boring, and I didn't bother to finish watching it. :/

Although it's not my fav, Princess Mononoke is probably a good place to start with his films.
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Elio
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  27.08.2010 at 09:49
Written by Fat & Sassy! on 26.08.2010 at 20:05

Written by Elio on 26.08.2010 at 14:57

Ok so I wanted to see Miyazaki's movies and I started yesterday with Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind. I gotta say expectations were high, considering the positive reactions I had found on the web but I was terribly bored. The story wasn't that good, the soundtrack pretty bad (except for the la la la thing) so yeah, I expect better stuff from the other ones, which I'll see asap


Yeah, I actually just saw this one too. It was pretty boring, and I didn't bother to finish watching it. :/

Although it's not my fav, Princess Mononoke is probably a good place to start with his films.


Heh, I finished it but really it was hard lol

I'm watching some of his best ones in chronological order so yeah, next will be Castle in the Sky iirc
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Elio
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  19.09.2010 at 01:35
So I've watch Laputa: Castle in the Sky, My Neighbor Totoro and Kiki's Delivery Service too.

All of them are a HUGE step forward after Nausicaa, especially the last two, not too long and incredibly cute and enjoyable. I think Kiki is my fav so far.
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Nomcat

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  21.09.2010 at 21:47
Written by Elio on 19.09.2010 at 01:35

So I've watch Laputa: Castle in the Sky, My Neighbor Totoro and Kiki's Delivery Service too.

All of them are a HUGE step forward after Nausicaa, especially the last two, not too long and incredibly cute and enjoyable.


Yeah, I mean c'mon...



Cat bus.
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Elio
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  21.09.2010 at 22:00
Written by Fat & Sassy! on 21.09.2010 at 21:47

Written by Elio on 19.09.2010 at 01:35

So I've watch Laputa: Castle in the Sky, My Neighbor Totoro and Kiki's Delivery Service too.

All of them are a HUGE step forward after Nausicaa, especially the last two, not too long and incredibly cute and enjoyable.


Yeah, I mean c'mon...

Cat bus.


LOL that part is awesome, when Totoro discovers the sound of the rain falling on the umbrella and smiles and then jumps lol

also Mei is cuter than any real life kid
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Nomcat

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  21.09.2010 at 22:09
Written by Elio on 21.09.2010 at 22:00

also Mei is cuter than any real life kid


This is true... considering real-life kids ≠ cute. D:<
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Elio
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  06.10.2010 at 19:44
Just watched Princess Mononoke

holy shit, did I see people losing arms and heads during fights? surely the most badass movie by Miyazaki. Never boring, I really didn't know which character support but yeah, the end was slightly predictable and kinda satisfies everybody.

So, so far:

PM > KDS > MNT > L:CitS > NotVotW
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Nomcat

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  08.10.2010 at 21:45
Written by Elio on 06.10.2010 at 19:44

Just watched Princess Mononoke

holy shit, did I see people losing arms and heads during fights? surely the most badass movie by Miyazaki. Never boring, I really didn't know which character support but yeah, the end was slightly predictable and kinda satisfies everybody.

So, so far:

PM > KDS > MNT > L:CitS > NotVotW


Princess Mononoke is considered, by most, his greatest (along with Spirited Away, because most people have seen it, I guess). SO DON'T BE TOO DISAPPOINTED WITH THE REST. D:

OH. And Porco Rosso is pretty kewl too. Are you watching his films out of chronological order?
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Knowledge is not wisdom
Wisdom is not truth
Truth is not beauty
Beauty is not love
Love is not music
Music is THE BEST..." ____Frank Zappa
Elio
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  08.10.2010 at 21:58
Written by Fat & Sassy! on 08.10.2010 at 21:45

Written by Elio on 06.10.2010 at 19:44

Just watched Princess Mononoke

holy shit, did I see people losing arms and heads during fights? surely the most badass movie by Miyazaki. Never boring, I really didn't know which character support but yeah, the end was slightly predictable and kinda satisfies everybody.

So, so far:

PM > KDS > MNT > L:CitS > NotVotW


Princess Mononoke is considered, by most, his greatest (along with Spirited Away, because most people have seen it, I guess). SO DON'T BE TOO DISAPPOINTED WITH THE REST. D:

OH. And Porco Rosso is pretty kewl too. Are you watching his films out of chronological order?


Yeah I was trying to watch the most important and succesful Ghibli movies (so also Grave of the Fireflies, Only Yesterday etc) out of chronological order but have skipped some in order to see his magnus opus, Princess Mononoke. I'm considering watching Spirited Away, the other masterpiece and then, in time, watching the other ones, including Porco Rosso, Whisper of the Heart, Pom Poko etc
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bj_waters

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  02.02.2012 at 08:14
I hope no one minds me necro-ing this thread, but I figured I would weigh in on these films. Miyazaki is a kind of genius that's hard to ignore, so having an opinion of his work really isn't that hard.

I voted for Princess Mononoke, mostly because it's his most action oriented movie and he gives Ashitaka all sorts of opportunities to be wildly awesome. I also quite like Castle in the Sky and Spirited Away. Both of these are great fantasy films that draw upon the styles of their times while still having timeless qualities.

From there, my ratings get a little more murky. Porco Rosso and Castle of Coglistro are decent adventure movies, light fun. It's been a while since I've seen Howl's Moving Castle, but I remember thinking it was just all right. I probably need to see it again. Then you have Kiki's Delivery Service, My Neighbor Totoro, and Ponyo, which are more kids' movies. While I can appreciate them and their artistry, I can tell they really weren't designed for older guys like me, especially Ponyo.

Nausicaa is a bit of a mixed bag. I think this one suffers from some of the same problems I hear about the Akira movie: that they tried to fit the scope of the source material into two hours and end up with kind of a mess. The Nausicaa manga is amazing, but the movie felt a bit clunky and abrupt. I probably need to see this one again, too. Nevertheless, it was the film that put Studio Ghibli on the map, so I at least respect that.

As for the rest of Ghibli, I love The Cat Returns and My Neighbors, The Yamadas. The rest I either haven't seen or don't want to ever watch again. In the latter category, I put Whisper of the Heart (meh), Pom Poko ("Did I really just watch that?") and Grave of the Fireflies, which is a good movie for history buffs and movie critics, but I was fairly squeamish the whole time. There's something wrong when I spend an entire movie drenched in morbid anticipation.
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  02.02.2012 at 11:07
Spirited Away is one of the greatest films I've ever seen, I remember seeing it in my early teens and not only being incredibly moved by it but actually sitting there afterwards and contemplating it, the first movie that really made me do that.

Of the others I've only seen My Neighbour Totoro (didn't much care for it) and Nausicca (that one I found almost as enjoyable as Spirited Away).
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  09.04.2012 at 09:54
My favorite of his is always Spirited Away.

My Neighbor Totoro comes close 2nd.
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  22.04.2012 at 03:08
Most of those are so good to me, I don't now if I can pick. Laputa castle in the sky was really cool, but so was Porco Rosso, Howls moving castle, and Princess Mononoke.... damn.
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Cal Wolvington
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  20.05.2012 at 15:28
Written by The Turbanator on 09.04.2012 at 09:54

My favorite of his is always Spirited Away.


Apart from the visuals, I don't understand what people see in Spirited Away. The story sucks, the characters have zero personality, there is no internal plot and the girl doesn't develop at all. I love Miyazaki's other films, but the success of SA leaves me baffled every time.
bj_waters

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  21.05.2012 at 01:45
Written by Guest on 20.05.2012 at 15:28

Apart from the visuals, I don't understand what people see in Spirited Away. The story sucks, the characters have zero personality, there is no internal plot and the girl doesn't develop at all. I love Miyazaki's other films, but the success of SA leaves me baffled every time.


Really? I find that assessment to be rather peculiar. While I won't argue that the characters are Miyazaki's deepest (like, say, Princess Mononoke), I would at least say that they have SOMETHING to them. I would also argue that Chihiro DOES develop; in the beginning, she's whining about having to move to a new town but her experiences at the bath house strengthen her to overcome her fears and be more courageous and accepting of change, even going so far as to chastise others. Think of it as a contemporary Japanese retelling of Alice in Wonderland (your mileage with that idea may vary).

To be fair, though, there certainly is a lot to be said for the visuals of Spirited Away. The backgrounds seem to feature a who's who of Japanese mythology, making some locations really feel busy and full of life.
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  21.05.2012 at 01:53
Written by bj_waters on 21.05.2012 at 01:45


Really? I find that assessment to be rather peculiar.

If you knew who he was you wouldn't find anything peculiar about his statements. One of the lesser of the totally bizarre and backwards things he's said about film actually.
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  21.05.2012 at 02:07
Written by bj_waters on 21.05.2012 at 01:45

Really? I find that assessment to be rather peculiar. While I won't argue that the characters are Miyazaki's deepest (like, say, Princess Mononoke), I would at least say that they have SOMETHING to them. I would also argue that Chihiro DOES develop; in the beginning, she's whining about having to move to a new town but her experiences at the bath house strengthen her to overcome her fears and be more courageous and accepting of change, even going so far as to chastise others.


I suppose she does develop a little bit in that way, but my big problem with her comes from the fact that she doesn't get stuck in the spirit world because she is whiny, she gets spirited away because of her parents. I mean, she is a little girl, telling her parents not to eat the food, she is the only voice of reason between two adults. This is no different from how she refuses to take the gold later in the film ergo she doesn't develop, she is sensible and responsible from the beginning. If the film was supposed to follow a spoiled girl's journey growing up, then the opening scene, where her parents doom her was a deal breaker to that premise. Miyazaki completely let the beginning corrupt the rest of the film. I also hated how undefined the world and the characters were. There were ghosts, humans, humans with exaggerated heads, animals etc. in the film and their perimeters were never explained at all. Where they all spirits? This is why I think the film was poorly written and - apart from the visuals - doesn't deserve much praise, unlike Princess Mononoke, which I consider to be one of the greatest films of all time.

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