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08.04.2014 - 15:21
toxx
Supreme being
Do you consider your home country as expensive or cheap?

What does stuff cost, and what's the average salary?

Do you pay a lot in taxes?
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08.04.2014 - 15:21
toxx
Supreme being
I'm from Norway, and I'll list a few examples for you. I'll convert to USD too, since most people can relate to that currency.

Average salary as of 2013: about 85 000 $. Most people don't make that kind of money though. I think 55 000 is more normal for most people here.

A 0,5l beer at my favorite pub: 8$ (This is actually cheap. Average is about 10-11$)

A pack of 20 cigarettes: 18-19$

A relatively small house in the countryside (like my house): 265 000 $. This is highly variable. You can get houses for as little as 120k, but it'll be in poor condition. In central parts of oslo, you'll have to expect prices that are about 5 - 10 times as high as in the countryside.

Taxes. I pay an income tax of about 33%.

Cars. Cars in Norway are super expensive. An example for you Americans out there: A used Chevrolet Suburban, 2009, 7-seats, with petrol engine, will set you back about 125 000 $
A new Volvo V70, with the smallest diesel engine (1,6l 115hp) wil cost you about 70 000.
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08.04.2014 - 15:40
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Tage Westerlund
Sweden now are expenice , it was OK in 00's 90's when we have good income all was cheap, and we have true socialism,
I belive Europe could surived better so called crisis if in whole Europe be socialistic govrments, not nationalistic what becauim to power 2 election circles ago
Now Swe is expecice for us to , as for a foregners
I pay taxes but I dont wanna pay taxes to nationalistic govemnet only socialistic, then I will get social garanties what I own ....

In pub beer costs from 50 kroner in bottle till 75
in booze stor 10-up depends what beer
I dont smoke
I dont have a car
I think we need sek 10-15 000 in food, less is way poor and bad quallity food
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08.04.2014 - 16:23
Karlabos
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Well, I'm from Brazil. Enough said.

Average salary as of 2013: Google says about R$ 2 100.
But that "average" must be calculated by literal means. I'd guess it's a bit lower than that for mid class though. But not too lower, something like R$1700 maybe?

Bootle of beer: Varies a lot. If bought on a bar can be R$5, if bought on a restaurant it can be double of the price
A pack of 20 cigarettes: R$6

Houses in Brazil? They are more expensive as the ones you said. You don't buy a house for less than R$200,000 and a very bad one.

A popular car (Brazilian) will cost about R$20,000, if one knows where to buy. Cars from outside will be like 3 times that price. Which is also completely absurd if comparing with the average wage
So yeah... I wanna leave here as soon s possible.
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08.04.2014 - 17:10
Troy Killjoy
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I could just reference Statcan for statistics but instead I'll focus on what I actually see.

Most people here earn minimum wage (about $10 or $11 per hour depending on the province). Salary jobs aren't as common but typically pay between $30-40,000 a year.

Most of the "vices" (beer and cigarettes) set you back about an hour's worth of minimum wage. A 6-pack rings in at about 12 bucks and a pack of smokes costs about 10 bucks depending on the brand.

Housing ranges all over the place, but your average 2,000 square foot home should cost about $300,000. Some places like Toronto charge as much for a small condo as provinces like Nova Scotia charge for a supersized mansion.

And generally new cars here cost between $15,000 and $35,000 - depending on things like name brand and features and whatnot.
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08.04.2014 - 17:23
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Tage Westerlund
Depends what you buy and if you live maisntream and so on, I am master at saving money and not buying nonsence what I realy dont need
Many ppl get 16-20 000 sek per months and 33% goes to taxes (50% if you gte more then 50 000 incoms and only fiew gets it, maybe doctors, pilots, hockey players , in SHL mosr gets more, ingenieras and so on, but mos gets like 20 K and its posisble live good, depends what your needs are, mine are basics, i nete, TV, food and booze, I dont own so much but I hope get a welding job, actually I am waiting a call on int ...
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13.04.2014 - 22:29
Kirg

Written by toxx on 08.04.2014 at 15:21

I'm from Norway, and I'll list a few examples for you. I'll convert to USD too, since most people can relate to that currency.

Average salary as of 2013: about 85 000 $. Most people don't make that kind of money though. I think 55 000 is more normal for most people here.


Is it income per year or month? Average salary in my country is approx. 12.000$ but most people earn about 6.000$ up to 9.000$ per year.

Quote:

A 0,5l beer at my favorite pub: 8$ (This is actually cheap. Average is about 10-11$)

A pack of 20 cigarettes: 18-19$


We're beer country, thus price of beer starts at 1.2$. At 2$ it's called "expensive"


Quote:

A relatively small house in the countryside (like my house): 265 000 $. This is highly variable. You can get houses for as little as 120k, but it'll be in poor condition. In central parts of oslo, you'll have to expect prices that are about 5 - 10 times as high as in the countryside.

Taxes. I pay an income tax of about 33%.

Cars. Cars in Norway are super expensive. An example for you Americans out there: A used Chevrolet Suburban, 2009, 7-seats, with petrol engine, will set you back about 125 000 $
A new Volvo V70, with the smallest diesel engine (1,6l 115hp) wil cost you about 70 000.


For 300k you can get decent housing in village or lousy flat in city. Prices of flats in city usually starts at 750k.

Income tax is 15% but some taxes are "hidden". If monthly salary is 500$ then total expenditure employer pays is approx 950$.
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13.04.2014 - 22:48
Risto
Wandering Midget
Finland's average salary is a little over 3000? per month (36k? per year), making our average income tax rate roughly 29%. Our country can be considered expensive because of high living costs, such as apartment heating. Tax rates for some products are absurdly high; we pay roughly 1.6? per litre for gas, and beer gets taxed 1.5? per litre. The high tax on alcohol is causing the income from it to actually decrease because of imported goods. Starting a small business is also a pain in the ass because of taxing and pension costs.
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13.04.2014 - 22:56
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Risto on 13.04.2014 at 22:48

Finland's average salary is a little over 3000? per month (36k? per year), making our average income tax rate roughly 29%. Our country can be considered expensive because of high living costs, such as apartment heating. Tax rates for some products are absurdly high; we pay roughly 1.6? per litre for gas, and beer gets taxed 1.5? per litre. The high tax on alcohol is causing the income from it to actually decrease because of imported goods. Starting a small business is also a pain in the ass because of taxing and pension costs.


is it easy find apparment in oulu?
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14.04.2014 - 08:22
toxx
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Written by Kirg on 13.04.2014 at 22:29



Is it income per year or month? Average salary in my country is approx. 12.000$ but most people earn about 6.000$ up to 9.000$ per year.

We're beer country, thus price of beer starts at 1.2$. At 2$ it's called "expensive"

For 300k you can get decent housing in village or lousy flat in city. Prices of flats in city usually starts at 750k.

Income tax is 15% but some taxes are "hidden". If monthly salary is 500$ then total expenditure employer pays is approx 950$.


Income per year.

The prices for houses and flats are quite interesting. Seems high, compared to yearly income? 750k for a flat in the city is about the same as it is here. you'll get a decent flat of about 50 square metres for that.

We are big on "hidden" taxes here. We have a fairly high income tax, but it pays off in free healthcare and good public services. We pay a road-tax every year for each car too. 500 $ per car. There's tax on property every year. Tax on water, tax on electricity. Until 2014, you even pay tax on inherited values. This has been removed.

Petrol price is 2,5$ per liter. that's about 10$ a gallon. With my travel distance to work, I spend about 450 $ on petrol every month on my car. Wife has a bit shorter distance, so we use about 350 there.

There is a fee for employers as well. You can add about 40% to the employees income I think.
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14.04.2014 - 08:55
toxx
Supreme being
Written by Risto on 13.04.2014 at 22:48

Finland's average salary is a little over 3000? per month (36k? per year), making our average income tax rate roughly 29%. Our country can be considered expensive because of high living costs, such as apartment heating. Tax rates for some products are absurdly high; we pay roughly 1.6? per litre for gas, and beer gets taxed 1.5? per litre. The high tax on alcohol is causing the income from it to actually decrease because of imported goods. Starting a small business is also a pain in the ass because of taxing and pension costs.


The gas price is almost as high as it is here then. Compared to yearly income, it's almost "the same"

Beer from 3,7-4,7% is taxed 2? per liter. Gets more expensive if the alcohol percentage is higher.

It's calculated like this for a 0,7l bottle of vodka with 37,5% alc: 5,75NOK per % per liter. 5,75*37,5=215,625NOK. 215,625 nok*0,7liter = 151NOK ---> 18,35 ? in alcohol tax.
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14.04.2014 - 09:37
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Our country is expensive as fuck apart from alcohol, that's why everyone moves to aussie

20,000 deposit minimum for a house, around $300 a week for a two bedroom flat, about 2.16per litre for petrol. And our dollar is like three or four euros.
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14.04.2014 - 09:59
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Written by deadone on 14.04.2014 at 09:45



A two bedroom apartment in Sydmey costs about $650 a week! Even crime ridden abo infested Redfern averages $410 a week for a 2 bed room apartment.


But Sydney is a hole.

Melbourne is about $450 a week.

A reasonable beer is about $2 a bottle if you buy a carton of 24.


Petrol is averaging $1.60 per liter.


And this is Aussie dollars, not Kiwi dollars.


Yeah Aucklands probably the same, i'm just talking but the small citys.

Work over there seems to pay shit loads more whatever industry your in, which makes it a lot more livable. I know housings not that great over there neither with alcohol, but that's about it, and the extra pay makes life so much more easier
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14.04.2014 - 10:26
Risto
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Written by Bad English on 13.04.2014 at 22:56

is it easy find apparment in oulu?

It's definitely easier to rent one for a reasonable price than in Helsinki, for example. I pay 400? per month for my one-room flat and it's about 4 km away from the city center. Comparable flats in Helsinki can be 600? per month.
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14.04.2014 - 13:49
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Risto on 14.04.2014 at 10:26

Written by Bad English on 13.04.2014 at 22:56

is it easy find apparment in oulu?

It's definitely easier to rent one for a reasonable price than in Helsinki, for example. I pay 400? per month for my one-room flat and it's about 4 km away from the city center. Comparable flats in Helsinki can be 600? per month.


same here but its hard to get in Lule anything ... 1room waiting like 10 years 2 room 6 ,3-5 oome are easy ....
ppl whit aparment and work pisses me off
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15.04.2014 - 11:02
Leni

I don't speak about whole Russia, it's too big. So, about moscow:
average salary (according to official returns) is about 1000-1200$, but there is a situation: here salaries are not always completely taxable. I mean that a person can earn for example 5000$ and more, but the taxable part of salary is 1000$ or less.
Beer in bars is from 6$ to 10-11$.
Prices of apartment vary greatly (i mean buying, not renting). For example, my small apartment costs about 200 000$. Apartment rent costs from 1000$ to infinity.
Taxes are small, income tax is 13% for everyone.
I can't say something about cars, i don't drive.
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20.06.2014 - 11:12
toxx
Supreme being
Historical event in Norway today

The gas price has never been as high as it is today, as it passed 16NOK per liter, which is in todays currency 2,6 USD, or 1,9 EUR So every time I fill a full tank on my car, it will cost me about 160$.
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20.06.2014 - 18:54
Troy Killjoy
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Written by toxx on 20.06.2014 at 11:12
So every time I fill a full tank on my car, it will cost me about 160$.

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21.06.2014 - 00:20
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Written by toxx on 20.06.2014 at 11:12

Historical event in Norway today

The gas price has never been as high as it is today, as it passed 16NOK per liter, which is in todays currency 2,6 USD, or 1,9 EUR So every time I fill a full tank on my car, it will cost me about 160$.


is that the bonus the big oil compny's give you for letting them drill up your country's coastline
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23.06.2014 - 08:28
toxx
Supreme being
Written by Guest on 21.06.2014 at 00:20


is that the bonus the big oil compny's give you for letting them drill up your country's coastline


One of the perks, yes
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23.06.2014 - 08:30
toxx
Supreme being
Written by Troy Killjoy on 20.06.2014 at 18:54




Well, since I have 46km each way to work, I don't think a bicycle is the best solution. But no doubt cheaper!
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23.06.2014 - 15:57
Sunioj

If you compare minimum wage in Israel which is about 1,200 USD to level of rent in Israel, then you pretty much have to live in the outskirts of any city center which in turn attracts many people to live in settlements (surprise!). It depends though, if you get a roommate you can do it - but no one wants to live on minimum wage right? I wouldn't think it would be as big an issue if employer's generally paid more.

There's no just reason a person working at a call center for Israel's biggest cell phone provider would get minimum wage when in the states at Verizon I got a few steps above that? I feel like this country is slowing becoming an Oligarch (I guess the world is anyhow). I think educated professions generally pay less than its equivalent anywhere else in the western world, so for this reason there is somewhat of a "brain drain" in Israel, though I think its getting a bit better.

There are pro's though. You can get around without a car easily, basic healthcare is almost nothing, produce is pretty affordable since its grown here. Buying an apartment depends, it can range from millions to much less depending on where you are. But the problem is getting to the point where you can afford that without sinking financially.

Cigarettes, the shitty ones are about $5 and Marlboro is more like $8. Beer however, Tel Aviv is rated one of the most expensive places in the world for that. A pint could be around $8-$10 but this heavily depends on how "nice" the place is.
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24.06.2014 - 10:32
toxx
Supreme being
Written by Sunioj on 23.06.2014 at 15:57

Beer however, Tel Aviv is rated one of the most expensive places in the world for that. A pint could be around $8-$10 but this heavily depends on how "nice" the place is.


I Norway a pint cost about 11-12$ in average. Cheap places, around 8-8,5$. At the more expensive "nicer" places it could be up to 20$ for a pint. But compared to what we get paid here, it's not too bad I guess.
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24.06.2014 - 15:04
Ilham
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Written by toxx on 24.06.2014 at 10:32

I Norway a pint cost about 11-12$ in average. Cheap places, around 8-8,5$. At the more expensive "nicer" places it could be up to 20$ for a pint. But compared to what we get paid here, it's not too bad I guess.

I'm gonna need to sell so many logos to be able to have a good time there.
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06.11.2020 - 15:11
dekinridoine

I live in US and taxes are fucking huge
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06.11.2020 - 15:13
kingsizexx

Written by dekinridoine on 06.11.2020 at 15:11

I live in US and taxes are fucking huge

in UK some taxes are 50% .. many people are going to this country with high hopes aiming for a bright future but when they get into this full of anarchy country that disrespect all the imigrants and give no shit about them they just lose it all there, yet there is no other better place for them to go.. how shit is it.. they have families and kids to feed and that bitch government are taking 50% of taxes for them for nothing, and all the salary they remain with (that cents) they send to their famileis. Shit. Sometimes u just want to make a business and look for a best app to sell clothesp and just do your own stuff than degrade in such situations..
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