Written by Troy Killjoy on 18.03.2012 at 16:39

Written by InnerSelf on 18.03.2012 at 16:34
didn't know GB had a following amongst the staff !

I think because they aren't pure black metal most of the Staff members who don't necessarily follow black metal find them easier to digest.

I'd think between Rod, Joe, and Rozz we would have awarded one of the avant-garde/black metal albums with the win, or one of the BaN releases. Typically you'd usually get something more along the lines of Taake, Leviathan, Absu, or Nightbringer.

or some of us just preferred that album...

i like plenty of out there shit, but during the last couple months found myself listening to GB more and more over the other nominees.

While Glorior's latest effort has been burrowing its way to my heart I genuinely expected Celestial Lineage, Passion or 777 - The Desanctification to snatch the staff pick. I'm assuming it would have to be one of the albums already nominated, since nominees had already been short-listed through staff voting in the first place.

I voted most of them haha

Primordial's album is where it should be.

+1 for human remains, but surprised that a fairly generic (albeit kickass) thrash album managed to beat out Outer Isolation, which everybody except Troy seems to think is unique.

Written by Guest on 19.03.2012 at 07:51

+1 for human remains, but surprised that a fairly generic (albeit kickass) thrash album managed to beat out Outer Isolation, which everybody except Troy seems to think is unique.

Woah, I guess you don't know anyone of the staff/elite then. Most of us don't think that album is really unique at all. For me it was a tie between Toxic Holocaust and Skeleton Witch... and a honorable mention to Sacred Ally... Everything else was on the "meh to good but not good enough" scale.

Written by Guest on 19.03.2012 at 07:51

+1 for human remains, but surprised that a fairly generic (albeit kickass) thrash album managed to beat out Outer Isolation, which everybody except Troy seems to think is unique.

But there is nothing unique about Outer Isolation (even though I voted for it in the staff picks ) But it certainly was just very very very slightly better than the rest of the thrash nominees. Just showing what a weak year of thrash this actually was.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.03.2012 at 14:24

Written by Guest on 19.03.2012 at 07:51

+1 for human remains, but surprised that a fairly generic (albeit kickass) thrash album managed to beat out Outer Isolation, which everybody except Troy seems to think is unique.

Just showing what a weak year of thrash this actually was.

then you probably haven't listened Thrash seriously.

i may have promoted Havok vociferously 'cause that is one of the greatest thrash stuff released in 2011. as far as Vektor's Outer Isolation is concerned, another splendid stuff. And you saying one of the weak year for Thrash?. IMO it was one of the top 3 category which was highest discussed.

Dude you may have more than 30,000 comments and face value guy on MS but you need to dig it more in Thrash of 2011

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 19.03.2012 at 18:25
Dude you may have more than 30,000 comments and face value guy on MS but you need to dig it more in Thrash of 2011

I find it funny that the only reason HAS TO BE he not knowing anything about 2011 instead of him simply not liking it. Remember it's just your opinion and his... Saying that the other didn't hear as much as the other is simply stupid. Although I do question everyone that says that Vektor is unique, ffs people don't even know about Voivod these days?

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 19.03.2012 at 18:25

Dude you may have more than 30,000 comments and face value guy on MS but you need to dig it more in Thrash of 2011

Let me see... I heard about 150+ thrash releases from 2011 and not a single one was great. There were some decent ones, like Vektor. And not a single one was unique either.
Maybe I am spoilt growing up when thrash started and when thrash boomed. But 2011 was not a good year for thrash in my books.

I like these results better than the public one too. Especially that Thy Catafalque earned the place.

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 19.03.2012 at 18:25
Dude you may have more than 30,000 comments and face value guy on MS but you need to dig it more in Thrash of 2011

Thrash in 2011 sucked. Plain and simple. The only reason it was possibly one of the more talked about genres is because it was one of the earliest recognizable metal genres, arguable the first real "extreme" form of music, and nowadays most of the conversations are about how mild and tame it is.

Thrash is a shadow of its former self. I'm honestly upset I wasn't alive during its golden years, because what we're getting is third-tier stuff.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 20.03.2012 at 01:21

...because what we're getting is third-tier stuff.

I would even dare call it fourth-tier. Technically very proficient but that's it.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.03.2012 at 01:32
I would even dare call it fourth-tier. Technically very proficient but that's it.

I can agree with that.

Yep. Bands are good technically speaking, but we're so far of the raw talent and aggression of Thrash's halcyon days...

Written by Troy Killjoy on 20.03.2012 at 01:34

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.03.2012 at 01:32
I would even dare call it fourth-tier. Technically very proficient but that's it.

I can agree with that.

It actually pains me to see what thrash, even the revivalist stuff has turned into. Totally none of the excitement of the first original wave. No demo´s to get you fired up. All too slick, all immediately signed to bigger labels who immediately milk it.. No trading amongst collectors. Unlike in the revivalist DM boom and doom "boom". There is no sense of community amongst the thrash bands and fans like there was and like there is in the other two subgenres I mentioned. The distance between bands and fans is a lot further as well. Almost no mingling between the two (unlike the other two subgenres) I could go on for hours bemoaning the current state of thrash and its so-called revival. SO, if anyone has a couple of spare hours and wants to join me in the pub, we can discuss it whilst enjoying some good beers.

Written by Darkside Momo on 20.03.2012 at 01:38

Yep. Bands are good technically speaking, but we're so far of the raw talent and aggression of Thrash's halcyon days...

bingo. and same with dm, in my ears. the more rigid genre definitions and approaches, the more difficult it is to impress over the years.

Written by 3rdWorld on 18.03.2012 at 06:18

Awards/Recommendations are boring imo. If i want an opinion, i would definitely check it out myself than read tons of shiz abt it.

Fascinating. Just fascinating. Do you have like...a newsletter or something I can subscribe to?

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.03.2012 at 14:24

Just showing what a weak year of thrash this actually was.

Pfft. Just pfft. Sacred Ally, Toxic Holocaust and Skeletonwitch were some great ones. Personally I found it to be a great year for thrash.

I wonder if a face value of MS guy whatever said it, people start pouring down their following emotions very quickly. yeah, opinions do vary, but whining stupidly about stupidity is utter STUPID. going back 15 years down the line comparing golden years of thrash as of from now is imbecilic wait...2011 wasn't a great year of Thrash? i mean are you kidding me broskies?! Toxic Holocaust, Havok, Skeletonwitch, Vektor (expunging Machine's Locust) they didn't have anything in 11?! Maaan! you'll need to seriously figure it out something.

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.....are you kidding me broskies?! Toxic Holocaust, Havok, Skeletonwitch, Vektor (expunging Machine's Locust) they didn't have anything in 11?! Maaan! you'll need to seriously figure it out something.......

After complaining so much, what is your point ? Seems like your remarks are groundless too. Why these bands are good or not good, I think provide us some good points is much more practical.

Written by Doc G. on 20.03.2012 at 08:45

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.03.2012 at 14:24

Just showing what a weak year of thrash this actually was.

Pfft. Just pfft. Sacred Ally, Toxic Holocaust and Skeletonwitch were some great ones. Personally I found it to be a great year for thrash.

I have to agree with Marcel and the rest of the old farts + Troy.The funny thing about your comment is that you managed to write all the bands I found good this year,3... nothing else which to me doesn't mean "a good year" at all.

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 20.03.2012 at 10:26

I wonder if a face value of MS guy whatever said it, people start pouring down their following emotions very quickly. yeah, opinions do vary, but whining stupidly about stupidity is utter STUPID. going back 15 years down the line comparing golden years of thrash as of from now is imbecilic wait...2011 wasn't a great year of Thrash? i mean are you kidding me broskies?! Toxic Holocaust, Havok, Skeletonwitch, Vektor (expunging Machine's Locust) they didn't have anything in 11?! Maaan! you'll need to seriously figure it out something.

goign back 15 years we come to 1997 and thrash was about dead and buried than, totally not the golden years of thrash. 28 - 22 years ago to was the golden age of thrash.

TH, Havok, Skeletonwitch all very very very mediocre releases Vektor was okayish but nothing great. Really I listened to about 150 thrash albums this year and the best one was just okayish, go figure.

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 20.03.2012 at 10:26
going back 15 years down the line comparing golden years of thrash as of from now is imbecilic

I find you very difficult to take seriously.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.03.2012 at 14:55
TH, Skeletonwitch

Those two +Sacred Ally were my favorite ones, Vektor was just good and Havok had some ok songs... But oh well, opinons

Written by Troy Killjoy on 20.03.2012 at 14:58

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 20.03.2012 at 10:26
going back 15 years down the line comparing golden years of thrash as of from now is imbecilic

I find you very difficult to take seriously.

now this is embarrassing. its not 15 years, i'm talking about 26 years back. sorry for that shit.

Really wanted to see Oranssi Pazuzu up for black metal, of all the black metal albums I heard last year, Kosmonument struck me as the all-around most interesting. I'm good with anything but Unto the Locust for thrash, because that album after The Blackening was pretty mediocre. Obscura should've won for death metal (though the debate betweeen whether Omnivium is prog or death could get a bit tricky I guess).
My two cents, anyways
But other than that, I more or less agree with the picks staffers

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.03.2012 at 14:55

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 20.03.2012 at 10:26

I wonder if a face value of MS guy whatever said it, people start pouring down their following emotions very quickly. yeah, opinions do vary, but whining stupidly about stupidity is utter STUPID. going back 15 years down the line comparing golden years of thrash as of from now is imbecilic wait...2011 wasn't a great year of Thrash? i mean are you kidding me broskies?! Toxic Holocaust, Havok, Skeletonwitch, Vektor (expunging Machine's Locust) they didn't have anything in 11?! Maaan! you'll need to seriously figure it out something.

goign back 15 years we come to 1997 and thrash was about dead and buried than, totally not the golden years of thrash. 28 - 22 years ago to was the golden age of thrash.

TH, Havok, Skeletonwitch all very very very mediocre releases Vektor was okayish but nothing great. Really I listened to about 150 thrash albums this year and the best one was just okayish, go figure.

Couldn't disagree more about Havok. Definitely my favorite release above ALL records release last year.

Written by Doc G. on 20.03.2012 at 08:45

Written by 3rdWorld on 18.03.2012 at 06:18

Awards/Recommendations are boring imo. If i want an opinion, i would definitely check it out myself than read tons of shiz abt it.

Fascinating. Just fascinating. Do you have like...a newsletter or something I can subscribe to?

Well, that post of mine was dumb really.

I just meant to say that i can't decide for myself which will be the best album in a specific genre without checking it out myself. Cause in the end personal tastes differ and it is all that matters.