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And... commence trash talking in... 3...2...1...
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Written by Holy Man on 07.04.2011 at 19:35
And... commence trash talking in... 3...2...1...
Still waiting for the first sellout comment.....oh was that one, sorry.
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Well, I'm not gonna bash them, even if "Hellfire Club" was their last consistently great album. (imo) The last 2 albums have had some good moments, but also were pretty patchy. Still, Im looking forward to this, as Tobi is a great songwriter, and I'd imagine the new album will at least have some good stuff on it.
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Written by The Shape 1973 on 07.04.2011 at 21:09
Written by Holy Man on 07.04.2011 at 19:35
And... commence trash talking in... 3...2...1...
Still waiting for the first sellout comment.....oh was that one, sorry.
hahaha, good, I'm glad somebody was on top of that, haha.
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All the information about upcoming Tobias Sammet's new material is exciting for me. I can't wait to listen for it!
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Written by Angelic Storm on 07.04.2011 at 21:58
Well, I'm not gonna bash them, even if "Hellfire Club" was their last consistently great album. (imo) The last 2 albums have had some good moments, but also were pretty patchy. Still, Im looking forward to this, as Tobi is a great songwriter, and I'd imagine the new album will at least have some good stuff on it.
I agree. I've been giving Rocket Ride and Tinnitus Sanctus more spins, and they've both been growing on me more. I definitely think Hellfire Club was their last album that straight up kicked ass. I'm sure the new one will have some decent stuff in it 
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I just hope they come up with something different than RR or TS... I just can't stand those albums, and I'm not saying they are bad... But comparing them to anything from their demos (hell, I'd prefer another dirty-sounding demo with something like Children of Steel!) to Hellfire Club, they just fall TOO short... 
Please, Tobi, don't FUCK it up! Edguy has always been one of my favourite all time bands... Bring back your genious power metal... 
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Edguy if u read this Please Listen to Your Fans.Go back to Hellfire Club and mandrake Please We loved you guys when you did the metal not classic rock.Keep it Banging HeadBangers!
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Written by MetalKid on 06.05.2011 at 18:22
Edguy if u read this Please Listen to Your Fans.Go back to Hellfire Club and mandrake Please We loved you guys when you did the metal not classic rock.Keep it Banging HeadBangers!
After the last two Edguy albums and the last three Avantasia albums, you've got no chance. Sorry.
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Whatever Tobi writes will be fantastic I'm sure. Sure, his last few albums weren't as much metal as many people want, but that doesn't change the fact that the music was good nonetheless.
I love Rocket Ride more than Tinnitus Sanctus, more because TS felt more like Rocket Ride trying to stoop into more metal-y stuff; it didn't work. I've heard this album is gonna be more anthemic and symphonic than the last two, and less bluesy than TS. There was also a comment about more double bass drumming.
I'm all in for that.
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Written by The Shape 1973 on 08.05.2011 at 18:39
Written by MetalKid on 06.05.2011 at 18:22
Edguy if u read this Please Listen to Your Fans.Go back to Hellfire Club and mandrake Please We loved you guys when you did the metal not classic rock.Keep it Banging HeadBangers!
After the last two Edguy albums and the last three Avantasia albums, you've got no chance. Sorry.
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Written by The Arkhelist on 12.05.2011 at 05:15
Whatever Tobi writes will be fantastic I'm sure. Sure, his last few albums weren't as much metal as many people want, but that doesn't change the fact that the music was good nonetheless.
I love Rocket Ride more than Tinnitus Sanctus, more because TS felt more like Rocket Ride trying to stoop into more metal-y stuff; it didn't work. I've heard this album is gonna be more anthemic and symphonic than the last two, and less bluesy than TS. There was also a comment about more double bass drumming.
I'm all in for that.
I just hope, for Edguy's sake, that you're FUCKIN right... I miss double bass in their songs...
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Artwork is now up on edguy.net (You'll have to join the Hellfire Club to access it, don't worry it's free) looks like Hellfire Club artwork with a Jester in the middle... that makes the third album with a plain background and an image in the middle. I love most Edguy/Tobias songs so i'll probably be pleased, from the artwork i'd say this will sound like a mix of Mandrake, Hellfire & Tinnitus - but we shouldn't judge a book by it's cover.
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Wouldn't mind a bit more 'Mandrake'.. Heres hoping.
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This looks good till now. The art promises some funny/epic Heavy/Power Metal like Mandrake & Hellfire Club which is amazing. The title of the tracks are also interesting. But I'm afraid Tobi's voice isn't as good and high as it used to be on Mandrake or Theater Of Salvation, so im hoping the songs will make up for that...
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Written by Mountain King on 20.06.2011 at 20:22
This looks good till now. The art promises some funny/epic Heavy/Power Metal like Mandrake & Hellfire Club which is amazing. The title of the tracks are also interesting. But I'm afraid Tobi's voice isn't as good and high as it used to be on Mandrake or Theater Of Salvation, so im hoping the songs will make up for that...
Well yeah, I'm sure it's difficult to sing as high as he did on Theatre of Salvation. Granted, he was in his early 20's when he did that record. haha
Though, if you check on his latest Avantasia releases, he's got some fantastic vocal performances on that. Prime example is "States of Matter" from The WIcked Symphony. Haven't heard him sing like that in a LONG time.
Anyway, I'm SO excited for this new record. New Edguy makes me think back to the time when I first started taking "interest" in music. They were the first band I ever "discovered" and looked into.
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Written by The Arkhelist on 12.05.2011 at 05:15
Whatever Tobi writes will be fantastic I'm sure. Sure, his last few albums weren't as much metal as many people want, but that doesn't change the fact that the music was good nonetheless.
I love Rocket Ride more than Tinnitus Sanctus, more because TS felt more like Rocket Ride trying to stoop into more metal-y stuff; it didn't work. I've heard this album is gonna be more anthemic and symphonic than the last two, and less bluesy than TS. There was also a comment about more double bass drumming.
I'm all in for that.
I agree. The last 2 Avantasia albums were great, even though there was more hard rock on those albums than metal. Same kinda thing (though to a lesser extent) with "Rocket Ride". I thought TS was disappointing, with only 3 or 4 good tracks on it. Although "The Pride Of Creation" was a great song in their classic style. xD
I really hope the new album will be more their power metal style, because he has Avantasia which he can use as an outlet for his (albeit great) hard rock style. Not that Im saying there shouldnt be any rock anymore in the Edguy style, but the faster, anthemic and symphonic sound should be their primary style again. Like it was back in the times before and until "Hellfire Club". Im definitely looking forward to hearing this anyways!
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Written by The Arkhelist on 25.06.2011 at 03:55
Written by Mountain King on 20.06.2011 at 20:22
This looks good till now. The art promises some funny/epic Heavy/Power Metal like Mandrake & Hellfire Club which is amazing. The title of the tracks are also interesting. But I'm afraid Tobi's voice isn't as good and high as it used to be on Mandrake or Theater Of Salvation, so im hoping the songs will make up for that...
Well yeah, I'm sure it's difficult to sing as high as he did on Theatre of Salvation. Granted, he was in his early 20's when he did that record. haha
Though, if you check on his latest Avantasia releases, he's got some fantastic vocal performances on that. Prime example is "States of Matter" from The WIcked Symphony. Haven't heard him sing like that in a LONG time.
Anyway, I'm SO excited for this new record. New Edguy makes me think back to the time when I first started taking "interest" in music. They were the first band I ever "discovered" and looked into.
I liked him on "Stargazers" and "Your Love Is Evil" but still not the old Edguy or Avantasia. But he still got it...
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The Scarecrow and Tinnitus Sanctus were way below Sammet's songwriting level, but The Wicked Symphony / Angel Of Babylon were great albums and give me a hint that this could be the best Edguy album since Hellfire Club
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Written by Kalmari on 25.06.2011 at 12:06
The Scarecrow and Tinnitus Sanctus were way below Sammet's songwriting level, but The Wicked Symphony / Angel Of Babylon were great albums and give me a hint that this could be the best Edguy album since Hellfire Club
I completely agree; I think Tobi was just experimenting more with those two albums. I think now he's more comfortable with what he truly wants to write. No doubt we can expect an amazing album!
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By the way, the joker face on the new artwork seems to be Tobi, covering his face with some effects in photoshop  or it is just my opinion, but at least he looks like the face on the artwork however, can't wait for the album, indeed Mandrake, Hellfire and Tinnitus mixing in one album would be the perfect sound for the new one. Some of the fans throw shit on the new Edguy, but going on with the same style forever only shows that the band has no interest of trying with different sounds, which actually would be a perfect match for the new albums. Tobi proved with his side project Avantasia, once again, that real heavy metal can come and go through his materials whenever he wants, so the ''fans" who keep on saying that Edguy hasn't done metal since Hellfire club, have no idea about the great rock/metal sound!!!
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Edguy is one of my favorite bands. I just know this new album is gonna be epic! But I gotta say I wouldn't mind a return to Mandrake and Hellfire Club times. I'm not criticizing most recent albums, they were great too IMO, but I have great expectations for Age Of The Joker.
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Bad artwork bad songs (in case of edguy)
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Written by Folkbill on 28.06.2011 at 02:11
Bad artwork bad songs (in case of edguy)
bad taste - no clue of music !
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Have heard most of the album. It is a huge disappointment. For those wanting a return to the early stuff, sorry its the same old hard rock stuff. Edguy are dead to power metal now.
It sounds like the last three Avantasia albums, not the fast songs mind, the rock ones. Even Rocket Ride seems good now.
Probably not even buy it as it will just gather dust on the shelf if I do. The track Robin Hood is probably the best, but even that is poor.
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Written by The Shape 1973 on 29.07.2011 at 21:28
Have heard most of the album. It is a huge disappointment. For those wanting a return to the early stuff, sorry its the same old hard rock stuff. Edguy are dead to power metal now.
I think we all knew it would not be Powermetal. To me, it is obvious Sammet has abandoned this style already long ago.
Imo, it is unrealistic to hope for a return to the early stuff.
Anyway I mentioned many times here and on other forums that it is futile to expect great PM albums from old PM bands. They're all slowly turning more or less to hard rock and standard Heavy Metal.
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Written by RavenKing on 29.07.2011 at 21:46
Written by The Shape 1973 on 29.07.2011 at 21:28
Have heard most of the album. It is a huge disappointment. For those wanting a return to the early stuff, sorry its the same old hard rock stuff. Edguy are dead to power metal now.
I think we all knew it would not be Powermetal. To me, it is obvious Sammet has abandoned this style already long ago.
Imo, it is unrealistic to hope for a return to the early stuff.
Anyway I mentioned many times here and on other forums that it is futile to expect great PM albums from old PM bands. They're all slowly turning more or less to hard rock and standard Heavy Metal.
Standard Heavy metal I can take. The last Hammerfall album, although no great leap or anything original, wasn't that bad compared to all other power metal albums of the last few years. But the move to Hard Rock, no thanks.
I think you are right about old PM bands. We can only hope for something new and different from the next generation. Pathfinder's album was excellent, but I haven't heard anything else mind blowing for a while.
I've lost interest now so have started to go back to some old Savatage, Rainbow (Dio era) and White Lion.
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Written by The Shape 1973 on 29.07.2011 at 22:04
Pathfinder's album was excellent, but I haven't heard anything else mind blowing for a while.
I'm really not into Powermetal at all nowadays but I heard Pathfinder and, though it is not my kind of music, it is decent, imo.
And it is REAL Powermetal, something rare nowadays.
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Samples didnt sound good....i think theyll hit us with a good comeback someday.....but not today
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I can't figure out why people keep on ruining edguy to the dirt..... OK, fine, it's not REAL POWER METAL...... well, guess..... this band is not a power metal band anymore, so instead of expecting power metal songs try to catch the quality of the album as it is. I believe when a ''real-heavy-metal-guy" hears anything apart from his "real-heavy-metal", he just think it's ridiculous, lame, or "huge disappointment".... so guess what are you guys doing right now??? You just can't move on with this, can you??? Edguy were power metal once upon a time, believe me, i adore they previous metal albums, but i also listen to their newer stuff, 'cause it's still awesome..... They decided to start another style, and the fans throwing shit on the band because it is not power metal........ Edguy is a hard rock band, i can say, and NO JAYXSNOOGANS...... THEY WILL NOT HIT US WITH A GOOD POWER METAL COMEBACK SOMEDAY, because they are stick to another direction which will not change......and guess what.... if you guys want real, power, dark metal, then you better go back pick your black clothes, 2kg wight metal necklaces and bracelets, iron boots, whatever, and go to hammerfall, manowar and iced earth concerts..... and for god's sake, accept edguy as a great hard rock band with excellent qualities.
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I like the new Edguy albums, even if they are not power metal anymore, I mean, their "hard rock songs" are pretty good
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Written by mandrake88 on 02.08.2011 at 15:07
I can't figure out why people keep on ruining edguy to the dirt..... OK, fine, it's not REAL POWER METAL...... well, guess..... this band is not a power metal band anymore, so instead of expecting power metal songs try to catch the quality of the album as it is. I believe when a ''real-heavy-metal-guy" hears anything apart from his "real-heavy-metal", he just think it's ridiculous, lame, or "huge disappointment".... so guess what are you guys doing right now??? You just can't move on with this, can you??? Edguy were power metal once upon a time, believe me, i adore they previous metal albums, but i also listen to their newer stuff, 'cause it's still awesome..... They decided to start another style, and the fans throwing shit on the band because it is not power metal........ Edguy is a hard rock band, i can say, and NO JAYXSNOOGANS...... THEY WILL NOT HIT US WITH A GOOD POWER METAL COMEBACK SOMEDAY, because they are stick to another direction which will not change......and guess what.... if you guys want real, power, dark metal, then you better go back pick your black clothes, 2kg wight metal necklaces and bracelets, iron boots, whatever, and go to hammerfall, manowar and iced earth concerts..... and for god's sake, accept edguy as a great hard rock band with excellent qualities.
Its a huge disappointment because it is so bland. If you like your metal to have no fire, no mental drums and no screaming guitars/vocals then enjoy.
I'll go back to listening to stuff that makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck.
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Written by RavenKing on 29.07.2011 at 21:46
Written by The Shape 1973 on 29.07.2011 at 21:28
Have heard most of the album. It is a huge disappointment. For those wanting a return to the early stuff, sorry its the same old hard rock stuff. Edguy are dead to power metal now.
I think we all knew it would not be Powermetal. To me, it is obvious Sammet has abandoned this style already long ago.
Imo, it is unrealistic to hope for a return to the early stuff.
Anyway I mentioned many times here and on other forums that it is futile to expect great PM albums from old PM bands. They're all slowly turning more or less to hard rock and standard Heavy Metal.
7 Sinners
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Written by Mountain King on 06.08.2011 at 19:41
Written by RavenKing on 29.07.2011 at 21:46
Written by The Shape 1973 on 29.07.2011 at 21:28
Have heard most of the album. It is a huge disappointment. For those wanting a return to the early stuff, sorry its the same old hard rock stuff. Edguy are dead to power metal now.
I think we all knew it would not be Powermetal. To me, it is obvious Sammet has abandoned this style already long ago.
Imo, it is unrealistic to hope for a return to the early stuff.
Anyway I mentioned many times here and on other forums that it is futile to expect great PM albums from old PM bands. They're all slowly turning more or less to hard rock and standard Heavy Metal.
7 Sinners
From what I've heard of it, no thanks.
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OMG NO POWER METALLLLL RAHHHHH WE WANT MORE DRAGONS AND WIZARDS AND DEMONS.
No but really, I love Rocket Ride, not so much Tinnitus, but regardless. The samples sound great, I know I'll love the album.
I can see why people wouldn't like it, though.
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Written by RavenKing on 07.08.2011 at 05:34
Written by Mountain King on 06.08.2011 at 19:41
Written by RavenKing on 29.07.2011 at 21:46
Written by The Shape 1973 on 29.07.2011 at 21:28
Have heard most of the album. It is a huge disappointment. For those wanting a return to the early stuff, sorry its the same old hard rock stuff. Edguy are dead to power metal now.
I think we all knew it would not be Powermetal. To me, it is obvious Sammet has abandoned this style already long ago.
Imo, it is unrealistic to hope for a return to the early stuff.
Anyway I mentioned many times here and on other forums that it is futile to expect great PM albums from old PM bands. They're all slowly turning more or less to hard rock and standard Heavy Metal.
7 Sinners
From what I've heard of it, no thanks.
7 Sinners is an amazing album, and actually even after all the hype from around its release, I still think is in Helloween's top four of all time.
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Written by The Shape 1973 on 02.08.2011 at 20:52
Its a huge disappointment because it is so bland. If you like your metal to have no fire, no mental drums and no screaming guitars/vocals then enjoy.
I'll go back to listening to stuff that makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck.
Music still can have "fire" without mental drums and screaming guitars and vocals. It's just a matter of what kind of music touches you. The kind of music you describe can still make my hairs stand up on the back of my neck, to use your words.
And why all this discussing what is power metal and what not? Who gives a damn what music is called? As long as people like it, let them enjoy it and don't spoil their fun.
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Written by Andreas on 09.08.2011 at 13:55
Written by The Shape 1973 on 02.08.2011 at 20:52
Its a huge disappointment because it is so bland. If you like your metal to have no fire, no mental drums and no screaming guitars/vocals then enjoy.
I'll go back to listening to stuff that makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck.
Music still can have "fire" without mental drums and screaming guitars and vocals. It's just a matter of what kind of music touches you. The kind of music you describe can still make my hairs stand up on the back of my neck, to use your words.
And why all this discussing what is power metal and what not? Who gives a damn what music is called? As long as people like it, let them enjoy it and don't spoil their fun.
Good point well put. I'm not going to argue with you as everybody likes different stuff I suppose.
But...If you listen to the older stuff compared to the new...well, you decide.
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Written by The Shape 1973 on 09.08.2011 at 19:03
But...If you listen to the older stuff compared to the new...well, you decide.
My decision would be that I enjoy Mandrake and Hellfire Club more than Rocket Ride and Tinnitus Sanctus. Still, I find the latter two albums enjoyable.
On a sidenote: I like the new song Robin Hood. I don't have high hopes for this new album, but neither do I have bad expectations. Let's just see (or listen).
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Okay, I've just finished listening to this, and never before have I been so frustrated by an Edguy album! Both "Tinnitus Sanctus" and "Rocket Ride" were disappointments, especially the former album, but kinda expected, with Tobi more or less abandoning his power metal roots in favour of hard rock. The first 2 songs on the album suggest a return to classic form though... "Robin Hood" is a great mid-paced power metal epic, which has more in common with "Mandrake" than any of their other albums. Great opener! Then "Nobody's Hero" comes absolutely storming out with a surging, crunching riff, instantly bringing to mind the heavier "Hellfire Club" stuff. There's definitely a hint of the classic "Mysteria" in there, which is no bad thing! xD The song is slightly let down by poppy backing vocals (which is such an annoying feature of this album that brings down even the good moments, and more on that later...) near the end of the final chorus, but overall, this is Edguy in amazing form!
But, just when I start thinking Edguy could be about to unleash an album worthy of being placed alongside classics like "Mandrake" and "Hellfire Club", a number of average songs in a row totally brings the album down to a point that it never really recovers from. "Rock Of Cashel" is actually a decent hard rock song, and the folky mid section is actually very good, but the overtly poppy chorus (those pesky backing vocals being the culprit again...) means the song is merely decent, when it could have been another great one. Disappointing... "Pandora's Box" has one half decent rock riff, but the rest of the song is utterly forgettable and dull. The fact it's nearly 7 minutes long certainly does it no favours either! "Breathe" has the potential to be an awesome, bouncy power metal number, but the guitars are totally neutered, and drowned out by the keyboards, which dilutes the effectiveness the song could have had by a lot. Poppy backing vocals in the chorus (again!) brings the song down even more, and another potential classic Edguy song is reduced to being merely decent... *sighs* "Two Out Of Seven" is just awful, and that's about all I want to say about it! 
Now, the tail end of the album is where I become really frustrated with it. "Faces In The Darkness" features a massive, evil sounding riff that's defintiely the heaviest thing Edguy have ever recorded. I actually banged my head along to the intro riffs! lol Now this is more like it Tobi! It's as if they took the heavy sounding parts of "Hellfire Club" and cranked it up a few notches... wow! The song has a genuine air of menace even in it's clean guitar sections... and then poppy backing vocals in the chorus once again (and they sound even more out of place here as the chorus itself isn't even very poppy) brings the song down. And it's worse here, as the rest of the song is just awesome... Frustrating it definitely is... The next song has the EXACTLY same problem. "The Arcane Guild" starts off in amazing style, with speeding power metal riffs, double bass drumming, (Rare for Edguy these days!) and is laden with an epic atmosphere. It even features a Keeper era-Helloween styled solo section just like they used to do in the old days! But once again, a chorus which is too light, and is accentuated all the more by those irritating backing vocals, stops the song from reaching classic status...
"Fire On The Downline" is the only pure hard rock song on the album that is above average, and is actually pretty great! The riffs are super catchy in an atmospheric way, and the chorus features a massive hook which is just irresistable. It may not be as majestically great as "Sacrifice" (the only rock style song from Edguy I'd label as truly classic), but it's still a fine song, and the only one which isn't ruined by poppy moments that just don't fit. "Behind The Gates To Midnight World" is sadly though, yet another song that more frustrates me than anything else. It starts very atmospherically, and when it starts to motor with a crunching mega riff, Im feeling the urge to move my head again! lol Much like "Faces In The Darkness", it's a great song until it reaches the chorus... and you guessed it, I won't even say it again!
The least said about "Every Night Without You" the better... Edguy have done some amazing ballads in the past, but sadly, this isn't one of them... if I wanted to listen to Bryan Adams, I'd go out and buy a Bryan Adams album! 
The thing that really strikes me about this album, is that Tobi clearly has not forgotten how to write good songs, and even at times, good metal. But this album lacks cohesion and consistency, as it sounds like a band striving to hold onto it's roots, but allowing too many lighter elements to permeate it, and bring it down. I have no problems with lighter stuff, and love some hard rock. But what really disappoints me here, is there are a few songs on here which are at their core, metal songs, but even those ones cannot escape totally from Tobi's love of penning rock and even poppier stuff. Yep, I'll say it one final time... very frustrating... lol
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Album is fantastic.
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Not disappoited at all! Very nice album.
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I've got this one !!! its awesome
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Was hoping for another album like Mandrake (foolish of me I know), all I got was Tinnitus Sanctus 2...
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I'm not sure which is the song with the chorus "your day to dieee" but it sounds good enough to me, the intro is really awesome with the 70s keyboard work. I played the Solitaire game on the Nuclear Blast homepage while listening to it
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Written by Valentin B on 24.08.2011 at 09:32
I'm not sure which is the song with the chorus "your day to dieee" but it sounds good enough to me, the intro is really awesome with the 70s keyboard work. I played the Solitaire game on the Nuclear Blast homepage while listening to it
That is from the song "Robin Hood", which is actually an awesome song, and is one of my fave Edguy songs ever lol
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I love the whole album.
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I'm getting this one right now... I'm pretty stoked about it actually. I'll give it a shot.
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Written by Baz Anderson on 09.08.2011 at 02:23
Written by RavenKing on 07.08.2011 at 05:34
Written by Mountain King on 06.08.2011 at 19:41
Written by RavenKing on 29.07.2011 at 21:46
Written by The Shape 1973 on 29.07.2011 at 21:28
Have heard most of the album. It is a huge disappointment. For those wanting a return to the early stuff, sorry its the same old hard rock stuff. Edguy are dead to power metal now.
I think we all knew it would not be Powermetal. To me, it is obvious Sammet has abandoned this style already long ago.
Imo, it is unrealistic to hope for a return to the early stuff.
Anyway I mentioned many times here and on other forums that it is futile to expect great PM albums from old PM bands. They're all slowly turning more or less to hard rock and standard Heavy Metal.
7 Sinners
From what I've heard of it, no thanks.
7 Sinners is an amazing album, and actually even after all the hype from around its release, I still think is in Helloween's top four of all time.
Agreed! 7 Sinners is an amazing album.
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JÄY - 26.08.2011 at 10:53
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If this release were a human being, it would be mentally insane, in the bad sense
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