02:59 - mz as much as I love TWWTTG, I must say that its influence on BM had not been so immense, or at least there had been some delay between that album and other bands taking influence from it. DsO, on the other hand...
02:43 - Neachy The Work Which Transforms Black Metal. I'd have to agree.
02:36 - Apothecary I like to think 2003, personally, because that's when Blut Aus Nord dropped TWWTG, which seemed to be the one album that most said "OK, black metal has entered a new chapter in its history"
02:35 - Apothecary Cool question for discussion that I'm talking about with a friend now. When exactly did the "second wave" or black metal end and the "third wave" begin?