05:16 - Joe Zombie I used to be a big Tool fan. Listened to them a lot back in the day. And "weird" not to be confused with experimental. Weird as in these overdrawn compositions with so much fluff and filler that its wankery.
05:14 - Timmeh Yeah on a related note, I've always disliked how the genre term 'Experimental' gets thrown around. It suggests the band members have no idea what the fuck they're doing.