I liked it much more on the second listen. It did not feel disjointed to me so far and worked great as background music during some translating activities .

Regarding your whole "haters" discussion - can I do this, just this once?

Okay after a few more listens, I had to change my rating (unfortunately lower, but not much). I personally feel that there a few moments of drag here and there, however this is still a phenomenal release, with many incredible moments. This is amazing, especially for a debut release.

Written by K✞ulu on 14.06.2012 at 18:12

I liked it much more on the second listen. It did not feel disjointed to me so far and worked great as background music during some translating activities .

I need to give it another listen too. The one listen I didn't give my full attention, was busy doing other shit, maybe that's why I wasn't blown away by this.

Written by CobiWan1993 on 15.06.2012 at 09:32

especially for a debut release.

Not a debut release...an EP called The Aurora Veil in 2007

Written by tea[m]ster on 15.06.2012 at 21:47

Written by CobiWan1993 on 15.06.2012 at 09:32

especially for a debut release.

Not a debut release...an EP called The Aurora Veil in 2007

I think they don't really keep it in that high regard as a release even though it received heaps of attention. They call it a demo and not an EP which kind of showcases that.

Written by Risto on 15.06.2012 at 21:53

I think they don't really keep it in that high regard

Hmmm, disagree. Google reviews for it. It's regarded by many as the best debut/demo/EP ever recorded.

Written by tea[m]ster on 15.06.2012 at 21:47
Not a debut release...an EP called The Aurora Veil in 2007

Regardless, this is their full-length debut, which many consider to be a debut in general. EPs and demos are considered debut material, but they're only meant for showcase purposes a majority of the time, especially early on in a band's career before they're able to release a full-length.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 15.06.2012 at 22:01

Written by tea[m]ster on 15.06.2012 at 21:47
Not a debut release...an EP called The Aurora Veil in 2007

Regardless, this is their full-length debut, which many consider to be a debut in general. EPs and demos are considered debut material, but they're only meant for showcase purposes a majority of the time, especially early on in a band's career before they're able to release a full-length.

Full-length debut? Of course. EPS and demos are debut material? Yes, and landmarks or they wouldn't be littered all over this website. Majority of the time? I think this is a rare exception how important this demo was looking at the popluarity of this new album.

Written by tea[m]ster on 15.06.2012 at 21:57

Written by Risto on 15.06.2012 at 21:53

I think they don't really keep it in that high regard

Hmmm, disagree. Google reviews for it. It's regarded by many as the best debut/demo/EP ever recorded.

I know that release like my own pockets mate The band really thinks it's "just a demo" and that the re-recorded versions are "miles better". You didn't even quote enough of my post

Written by tea[m]ster on 15.06.2012 at 21:47

Written by CobiWan1993 on 15.06.2012 at 09:32

especially for a debut release.

Not a debut release...an EP called The Aurora Veil in 2007

Yeah, i meant full-length album debut. :p

Written by Risto on 16.06.2012 at 00:15

I know that release like my own pockets mate The band really thinks it's "just a demo" and that the re-recorded versions are "miles better". You didn't even quote enough of my post

Ah, the band thinks it's shit but the mass find it terrific. The band definetely has high standards!

Written by tea[m]ster on 17.06.2012 at 21:26

Written by Risto on 16.06.2012 at 00:15

I know that release like my own pockets mate The band really thinks it's "just a demo" and that the re-recorded versions are "miles better". You didn't even quote enough of my post

Ah, the band thinks it's shit but the mass find it terrific. The band definetely has high standards!

If that's the case then why did they release it, then?

Written by Nightfall on 21.06.2012 at 03:17

If that's the case then why did they release it, then?

Well, what's the purpose of releasing a demo anyway? The band is definitely proud of the songs they've written but they feel the performance and production are a lot better on the re-recordings than on The Aurora Veil (the latter is stating the obvious really).

Holy shit, this album is amazing

This album is almost everything I have ever wanted out a metal album. They manage to tie so much together so perfectly.

I see a lot of potential but I just can't seem to get into a lot of the songs. "And Plague Flowers..." and "As Icicles Fall" are absolute masterpieces. The rest of the songs I just can't seem to grasp. I think there is just too much instrumental for me, especially "Forget Not"... that song is seriously 8 minutes too long.

Ridiculous good debut, if u dont count in the ep. will get into my top 5 or even 3 at the end of the year, i think. it really reminds of maudlin of the wells latest, n the violin is great!

Overall it is a good album. There are definitely interesting ideas to listen to here, but I would rather say that this album has its moment than say that it is consistently good. In addition, it's too long for its own good. This is a band to watch out for in any case. I only hope they won't go into the ridiculous complexity territory, but rather focus on coherent structure.

Another reason why I'm disgusted with the Australian music industry.
Even though they don't sound like them, could these guys be the Australian answer to Opeth or Agalloch?

Written by Troy Killjoy on 18.05.2012 at 16:07

Written by Guest on 18.05.2012 at 15:54
Haters gonna hate.

Probably the most annoying response people on the internet have come up with. I'm not a "hater" because I don't like the music. I don't "hate" the album, I have an opinion that differs from those who are praising it.

If history has taught us anything, it's that anyone who's opinions or ideals differ from your own deserve to die like the primitive savages they are.

Australia would be the Scandinavia of following decade with no fucking doubt ! \m/ \m/

Just look at the chart .. 1 - Legendary Be'lakor 2 - Majestic Ne Obliviscaris

I'm just fucked up !

It's decent at times, but for the vast majority of the album it ranges from extreme boredom to mild boredom... either a 5 or 6 from me

Written by HaaskAksaaH on 17.08.2012 at 14:25

Australia would be the Scandinavia of following decade with no fucking doubt ! \m/ \m/

Just look at the chart .. 1 - Legendary Be'lakor 2 - Majestic Ne Obliviscaris

I'm just fucked up !

Completely agreed.

There's lots of room for improvement but they know how to write lovely melodies; they should use that as much as possible. I enjoyed it a lot.

I made a review of this album on Youtube, and the bassist Cygnus actually left this really nice message on there:

"you are a legend. such kind words leave me speachless! can't wait to meet you on tour one day brother.

cygnus - ne obliviscaris"

That means a lot actually.

Dont get what all the fuss is about

Its a good first effort from this band, as people have said some parts get a bit too messy and overlong, but its unique and fresh at the same time.

"of the leaper butterflies, "forget not", and "as icicles fall" are the best.

I only listened to this today and I must say i am impressed. Brilliant debut album. Really really good stuff.

It's fuckin' progressive. This is my first listening but I'm dying for their new album