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Posted by Bash' on 18.05.2006 at 12:08
New thread for this great Finnish band

They newly have released "Before The Bleeding Sun" album. most of us agreed that there style was changed totally, and IMO the only thing still as it was is the voice of Altti. not gonna make a poll to ask whether if they are better after or before they are re-banded coz most ppl gonna vote without explaining as what happened on th old forum i created..!!



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Elio
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  25.05.2009 at 20:58
Written by Fhuesc on 25.05.2009 at 20:53

Written by Elio on 25.05.2009 at 20:49

If you still have the link, please pm it to me too

Search it on google, i got it from rapidshare.


Yeah, I found a rapidshare link too. Problem solved.
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Janne
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  25.05.2009 at 21:16
After the first few listen I can say the vocals could be better. I think it's an album that will grow on me more and more after each listen.
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Elio
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  26.05.2009 at 16:31
I will be honest guys. This album is really bad. Once melodeath/etreme power bands were enjoyable or even good thanks to their energy. Now that they lost it their music is useless. They should try something new. The symphonic element doesn't help, according to my taste.
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IntoPlighT said: "Slipknot is 15 years old how the fuck is that Nu metal?"

BEST. QUOTE. EVER.
Janne
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  26.05.2009 at 16:53
Written by Elio on 26.05.2009 at 16:31

I will be honest guys. This album is really bad. Once melodeath/etreme power bands were enjoyable or even good thanks to their energy. Now that they lost it their music is useless. They should try something new. The symphonic element doesn't help, according to my taste.

ETOS was never famous about its energy. I think many of us like them because of their softness and their great melodies!
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Elio
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  26.05.2009 at 17:02
Written by Janne on 26.05.2009 at 16:53

Written by Elio on 26.05.2009 at 16:31

I will be honest guys. This album is really bad. Once melodeath/etreme power bands were enjoyable or even good thanks to their energy. Now that they lost it their music is useless. They should try something new. The symphonic element doesn't help, according to my taste.

ETOS was never famous about its energy. I think many of us like them because of their softness and their great melodies!


Well, I was talking in general. IMO this kind of bands have lost what made their sound new, fresh and enjoyable years ago. Now, it's boring average music, similar to what they did before but worse.
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IntoPlighT said: "Slipknot is 15 years old how the fuck is that Nu metal?"

BEST. QUOTE. EVER.
K†ulu
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  26.05.2009 at 17:57
Written by Elio on 26.05.2009 at 17:02

Written by Janne on 26.05.2009 at 16:53

Written by Elio on 26.05.2009 at 16:31

I will be honest guys. This album is really bad. Once melodeath/etreme power bands were enjoyable or even good thanks to their energy. Now that they lost it their music is useless. They should try something new. The symphonic element doesn't help, according to my taste.

ETOS was never famous about its energy. I think many of us like them because of their softness and their great melodies!


Well, I was talking in general. IMO this kind of bands have lost what made their sound new, fresh and enjoyable years ago. Now, it's boring average music, similar to what they did before but worse.

So far I have to agree with Elio... I listened to this album once, and it's boring most of the time. And indeed symphonic elements just don't work, just as the clean vocals. And one more thing... there was energy actually. Melodies? Of course. But power and energy was there. I mean A Virgina and a Whore talks for itself...
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Elio
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  26.05.2009 at 18:01
Written by K†ulu on 26.05.2009 at 17:57

Written by Elio on 26.05.2009 at 17:02

Written by Janne on 26.05.2009 at 16:53

Written by Elio on 26.05.2009 at 16:31

I will be honest guys. This album is really bad. Once melodeath/etreme power bands were enjoyable or even good thanks to their energy. Now that they lost it their music is useless. They should try something new. The symphonic element doesn't help, according to my taste.

ETOS was never famous about its energy. I think many of us like them because of their softness and their great melodies!


Well, I was talking in general. IMO this kind of bands have lost what made their sound new, fresh and enjoyable years ago. Now, it's boring average music, similar to what they did before but worse.

So far I have to agree with Elio... I listened to this album once, and it's boring most of the time. And indeed symphonic elements just don't work, just as the clean vocals. And one more thing... there was energy actually. Melodies? Of course. But power and energy was there. I mean A Virgina and a Whore talks for itself...


Yeah, A Virgin And A Whore was actually a great work.
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BEST. QUOTE. EVER.
Janne
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  27.05.2009 at 00:20
Written by Elio on 26.05.2009 at 18:01

Written by K†ulu on 26.05.2009 at 17:57

Written by Elio on 26.05.2009 at 17:02

Written by Janne on 26.05.2009 at 16:53

Written by Elio on 26.05.2009 at 16:31

I will be honest guys. This album is really bad. Once melodeath/etreme power bands were enjoyable or even good thanks to their energy. Now that they lost it their music is useless. They should try something new. The symphonic element doesn't help, according to my taste.

ETOS was never famous about its energy. I think many of us like them because of their softness and their great melodies!


Well, I was talking in general. IMO this kind of bands have lost what made their sound new, fresh and enjoyable years ago. Now, it's boring average music, similar to what they did before but worse.

So far I have to agree with Elio... I listened to this album once, and it's boring most of the time. And indeed symphonic elements just don't work, just as the clean vocals. And one more thing... there was energy actually. Melodies? Of course. But power and energy was there. I mean A Virgina and a Whore talks for itself...


Yeah, A Virgin And A Whore was actually a great work.

I like all of their works, COTDW as well. you're right there was energy, I said that wasn't the most imoprtant in their music! and I like the the clean vocals more than the harsh ones in the new album..
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  27.05.2009 at 07:30
I gave the album another spin (mp3 in winamp ), and what I noticed is that a lot of songs just sound like Power Metal, so if I belonged to a certain category of people, I'd say they sold out. But I just don't use this term. Well, I am pretty sure people will find something enjoyable for them in this record.
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Uller

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  27.05.2009 at 09:31
CDW Is not a bad album, its just average, there are no keyboard solos, clean vocals could be better, and angel hearth raven hearth II has nothing to do with the first one, this one is sloooow and boring, and yes, every melodic death band is failing, COB...no words, Norther its just emo songs with awful lyrics, ETOS with this. I think that everyone is killing their keyboards and i dont know why
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  27.05.2009 at 21:58
I also think that the symphonic doesnt helped at all.
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  27.05.2009 at 22:20
I personally don't mind the symphonic stuff CDW sure wasn't one of their strongest releases but it isn't a bad album.
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  28.05.2009 at 05:08
I don't think it's that bad really. There were definitely moments where I enjoyed and some bit just slipped passed me, but I certainly agree with that the clean vocals need a bit more work (not saying it's a bad idea though)
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  28.05.2009 at 05:33
Cool, i didn't know the album had been leaked, i got away a bit from this band after Before the Bleeding song, and alhtough the comments on this last one aren't so good, i'll still try to download it and give it a listen.
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Daggon
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  28.05.2009 at 06:20
I don't care what you all have to say about this album, I found it totally great, I can't stop listening to it, and surely I'm not the only one.
I don't think they started to sound like COB or Norther, ETOS have their own sound and it is something they achieved with many years of experimenting different sounds. From the start to the end COTDW amazed me and I think I won't stop liking this album for a long time. How to say this, the first song simply blew up my mind!

And no guys, I'm no fan of COB or Norther, don't get me wrong hehehe
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Fhuesc

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  28.05.2009 at 06:49
Written by Daggon on 28.05.2009 at 06:20

I don't think they started to sound like COB or Norther, ETOS have their own sound and it is something they achieved with many years of experimenting different sounds.

I dont think Uller implied that EToS now sounds like CoB or Norther, i think he meant that just like those 2, EToS is going down in quality. Where once was a great solo, now there's some mediocre solo (Guitars and Key).
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Daggon
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  28.05.2009 at 07:08
@Fhuesc: Well, maybe, but IMO, I like the overall sound of the album so thumbs up
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Janne
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  28.05.2009 at 18:32
Written by Fhuesc on 28.05.2009 at 06:49

Written by Daggon on 28.05.2009 at 06:20

I don't think they started to sound like COB or Norther, ETOS have their own sound and it is something they achieved with many years of experimenting different sounds.

I dont think Uller implied that EToS now sounds like CoB or Norther, i think he meant that just like those 2, EToS is going down in quality. Where once was a great solo, now there's some mediocre solo (Guitars and Key).

yeah he meand these bands go downhill now.. (maybe he's right :/)
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Janne
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  28.05.2009 at 18:34
Written by tulkas on 28.05.2009 at 05:33

Cool, i didn't know the album had been leaked, i got away a bit from this band after Before the Bleeding song, and alhtough the comments on this last one aren't so good, i'll still try to download it and give it a listen.

It wasn't leaked but officially released a week earlier.
And the album definetly worth a listen!
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tulkas
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  28.05.2009 at 22:35
Cool, but i'll download it anyway don't have enough money to buy the albums i want, sadly anyway, i'll try to listen to it ignoring all the comments i've read about it, specially the bad ones
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AbdelioR

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  05.06.2009 at 12:40
I agree with the soft style of the CDW from ETOS that most of you comment, but I like the album. The melodies are so great.
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Ag Fox
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  06.06.2009 at 04:19
Listened to A virgin and a whore for the first time today. It really is superior to the last two albums even though it's been released 8 years ago =/
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Fhuesc

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  08.06.2009 at 07:33
Written by Ag Fox on 06.06.2009 at 04:19

Listened to A virgin and a whore for the first time today. It really is superior to the last two albums even though it's been released 8 years ago =/

Thats was the highest point of EToS, from old to new.
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  08.06.2009 at 19:28
After the 10th listening I can say I love CotDW from the beginning to the end.
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  08.06.2009 at 19:35
Written by Uller on 27.05.2009 at 09:31

CDW Is not a bad album, its just average, there are no keyboard solos, clean vocals could be better, and angel hearth raven hearth II has nothing to do with the first one, this one is sloooow and boring, and yes, every melodic death band is failing, COB...no words, Norther its just emo songs with awful lyrics, ETOS with this. I think that everyone is killing their keyboards and i dont know why


Killings their keyboards?

Listen to old COB/Norther (especially Norther) and then their newer stuff and tell me which has more keyboards... older Norther by far has more keyboard than newer Norther (which I agree is 90% crap)
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  01.07.2009 at 16:24
Written by Janne on 08.06.2009 at 19:28

After the 10th listening I can say I love CotDW from the beginning to the end.

It is very catchy indeed
IllOmenNation

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  29.08.2009 at 22:05
A Virgin and A Whore still holds the title for me, I don't know but I lose a bit more interest with each album even though technically they have not done anything bad. Used to be my absolute favorite band.
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Ag Fox
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  31.08.2009 at 00:50
Because they changed keyboardist(?)
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  01.09.2009 at 08:51
Compared to the band's previous effort, the band's new album is excellent in my opinion. I have been pleasantly surprised about "Children of the Dark Waters", and thankfully there are lots of heavier, more extreme symphonic tracks, as I don't care so much for EToS's slower tracks that tread in ballad territory.

"Summon The Wild" is a classy track that is worthy of the first era of the band to me, and really, the first 4 tracks of this album are really well done. "Midnight Bird" is very reminscent of "A Virgin and A Whore" to me, which a great sign. The rest of the disc gets a bit lost for me (not bad, but just hasn't grabbed my attention much), but my respect for the band has returned now after my utmost disgust for the band's previous album.
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warrior_of_ice

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  17.08.2010 at 17:43
I dont mind their new album at all, however it kinda lacks that 'cutting edge' song

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