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Posted by on 22.10.2006 at 20:47
I'm really tired of all the feminists who blames every single bad thing in the society on the men.

A few years ago the leader of the national organisation for women- and girl-helpcenters (dont know the proper english translation) said, in public, that all men are pigs. How the hell can she say something like that? How the hell can women draw the conclusion that ALL men are bad?
Afterwards, when it had been on the first page in every newspaper, there was a reporter who asked her if she still meant what she said. She answered "But all men ARE pigs. Don't YOU think so?"
When I heard that I was like "whoa!" I mean, she sounded like a freakin maniac. I was honestly scared.

Another feminist debate in Sweden was whether we would boycott the FIFA World Cup just because prostitution is legal in Germany. Some stupid feminist (can't remember name) wrote a blog about that men "should take their responsibility". She said that if you're not against it, you're with it. How the hell can she really believe that i can't enjoy football without having to fuck a prostitute after a game? Talk about preconceived opinions.
"Men are pigs" pfff... That fucking feminist blogger is nothing but a filthy animal.

Since a new party started in Swedish politics, Feministic Initiative, I am no longer a feminist. I do believe that men and women should be equal to eachother, but the word feminist has got a new meaning to me. Feminism is now a synonyme to the word "sexism".
This party wanted all men to pay a certain tax that would pay for the rehabilitation of beat up women. Fucking fascists!

And have you heard about the book "The SCUM-manifest"? The author basically says that men are the reason why the world is as bad as it is, and that all women should exterminate the male gender. Hmm, that sounds familiar somehow. Could it be MEIN KAMPF, written by freakin ADOLF HITLER??? Only the word "jew" has been replaced by the word "male".

I am not a feminist, but I am a feminimasculinist. I don't want women to run the world. I want both men AND women to do it. Therefore, I am a feminimasculinist.
All feminists should burn in hell. Boycott feminism.



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Overrwatcher

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Age: 17
From: USA
  12.06.2016 at 02:01
Written by Rasputin on 11.06.2016 at 19:43

Cheap cope out. That's what happens when you argue with a child.


At least I can recognize I'm a child. Can't say the same for you.

I cop out because I'd rather be doing more productive or more satisfying things, like making lists on this forum or looking at a good pair of boobs.

Quote:

And the reason for Russia, is because I do business there and I stay quite a lot there


Still don't live there though. And you seem quite obsessed with Russia in literally every way, why don't you move there? It would solve a lot of your bitterness at least.

We're getting way derailed from the topic of feminism so I probably will stop here before Marcel pulls out his ruler and forcefully takes the discussion back on track. I could argue for feminism all I want but I didn't come to this forum to play therapist for a bunch of neckbeards. I've got enough neckbeard friends to do that for. So yeah, this is where I hop off. Nice talking to you, Rasputin, if you are still in your 20's (since you don't list your age anywhere) then I hope you find your way soon enough to not waste the best dating years, and if you are older than I can kind of understand why you would be so jaded. You are so cold-hearted and I just wanted to help you change your ways </3
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Written by on 12.06.2016 at 19:43

Overwatcher, MS Xena, crumbled him in no time. MS needs you to kill the boredom in here.
Rasputin

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  12.06.2016 at 04:47
Written by Overrwatcher on 12.06.2016 at 02:01

Written by Rasputin on 11.06.2016 at 19:43

Cheap cope out. That's what happens when you argue with a child.


At least I can recognize I'm a child. Can't say the same for you.

I cop out because I'd rather be doing more productive or more satisfying things, like making lists on this forum or looking at a good pair of boobs.

Quote:

And the reason for Russia, is because I do business there and I stay quite a lot there


Still don't live there though. And you seem quite obsessed with Russia in literally every way, why don't you move there? It would solve a lot of your bitterness at least.

We're getting way derailed from the topic of feminism so I probably will stop here before Marcel pulls out his ruler and forcefully takes the discussion back on track. I could argue for feminism all I want but I didn't come to this forum to play therapist for a bunch of neckbeards. I've got enough neckbeard friends to do that for. So yeah, this is where I hop off. Nice talking to you, Rasputin, if you are still in your 20's (since you don't list your age anywhere) then I hope you find your way soon enough to not waste the best dating years, and if you are older than I can kind of understand why you would be so jaded. You are so cold-hearted and I just wanted to help you change your ways </3

Nice talking to you Overwatcher
M C Vice
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  18.06.2016 at 13:13
What IS a neckbeard? (besides an actual beard, although I'm not entirely sure what one looks like, anyway)
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psykometal
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  18.06.2016 at 18:45
Oky doky, people, I've dealt with the Russian-wannabe prick and (I think) all of his shitty comments in this thread. Let's move on and forget about him and go about our business.
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  19.06.2016 at 04:05
Written by psykometal on 18.06.2016 at 18:45

Oky doky, people, I've dealt with the Russian-wannabe prick and (I think) all of his shitty comments in this thread. Let's move on and forget about him and go about our business.

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Overrwatcher

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Age: 17
From: USA
  20.06.2016 at 12:25
Written by M C Vice on 18.06.2016 at 13:13

What IS a neckbeard? (besides an actual beard, although I'm not entirely sure what one looks like, anyway)


A neckbeard is someone who is extremely socially inept, like not just to the point where they are extremely introverted and thought of as weird, but to the point where they are aggressive and make everyone around them uncomfortable. They are extremely nerdy, and extremely passionate about it. A lot of the long, long rants consisting of nothing but sheer hatred are often by neckbeards. They are failures at life in every way: They often are No Education, Employment, or Training (NEET) people who are morbidly obese, have very poorly maintained facial hair, never shower, and can not say anything to a woman without coming off as a horrible creep. They have an obsession with fedoras and think they are "classy intellectuals" when they really aren't either. They don't need to have all of these traits, it's just the stereotype and often known as being "neckbeard in spirit". /r/justneckbeardthings is filled with examples.

Not to be confused with "Nice Guys". All neckbeards are Nice Guys, but not all Nice Guys are neckbeards. A Nice Guy is a man who thinks that because he is being a basic human being (i.e. not being an asshole), women must have sex with him, so he will do small favors for women for long periods of time and then ask them out. If the woman rejects him, saying that she views him as only a friend, then he has entered the "friendzone" in his mind, because he was being too nice. Now she's a fucking slut apparently, even though that logic makes no sense due to what "slut" means. Have this happen enough times and instead of thinking there is something wrong with him, they think there is something wrong with women as a whole, and as a result he becomes a misogynist. /r/niceguys is filled with great examples.

Whenever you are feeling socially inept, always remember these guys exist.

Now consider what I said about neckbeard passion and loudness, and Nice Guys eventually becoming misogynists, and you just summed up a lot of internet men's rights activists. It's a shame, there is legit men's rights topics as shown on /r/menslib, I just can't take the term "MRA" seriously any more.
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Written by on 12.06.2016 at 19:43

Overwatcher, MS Xena, crumbled him in no time. MS needs you to kill the boredom in here.
IronAngel

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From: Finland

  20.06.2016 at 14:50
'Neckbeard' is an internet meme and a misandrist slur for an imaginary demographic. The stereotype is pretty much what Overrwatcher describes, but to suppose that this is an accurate description of any homogenous group of people is pretty naive.

They love the trilby, though, not the fedora. Don't knock on fedoras.

Rasputin is not really a neckbeard (if we are to use the term, which I find ironically inappropriate in a topic about feminism), and certainly not a Nice Guy. He is a dangerous, hateful fascist, either an unwitting pawn and groupie of Russia's organised troll army or even part of it himself (which I find unlikely, given his long history here). Treating him as just another socially inept internet meme underestimates the danger the civilised West is facing from his kind. People have already died.
Overrwatcher

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  21.06.2016 at 07:39
Written by IronAngel on 20.06.2016 at 14:50

'Neckbeard' is an internet meme and a misandrist slur for an imaginary demographic. The stereotype is pretty much what Overrwatcher describes, but to suppose that this is an accurate description of any homogenous group of people is pretty naive.

They love the trilby, though, not the fedora. Don't knock on fedoras.

Rasputin is not really a neckbeard (if we are to use the term, which I find ironically inappropriate in a topic about feminism), and certainly not a Nice Guy. He is a dangerous, hateful fascist, either an unwitting pawn and groupie of Russia's organised troll army or even part of it himself (which I find unlikely, given his long history here). Treating him as just another socially inept internet meme underestimates the danger the civilised West is facing from his kind. People have already died.


What I always find silly about neckbeards is how they talk about how great the fedoras are, and then end up buying a trilby instead lol.

It definitely is bad to associate Rasputin with neckbeards when he really is something completely different (neckbeards are almost never straight-up neo-nazis), but I don't feel as if it's a misandrist slur. It is a ridiculous stereotype that very few people fall perfectly into, and people have had their entire lives ruined by unfortunately having only harmless characteristics of the stereotype (they could have a neckbeard and be overweight but maintain good hygiene and are upstanding individuals), but it's wrong to associate it specifically as a slur against men. The average guy is not like that. Nobody thinks that every guy is a neckbeard, unlike how misogynists (like Thy Art Is Murder's original vocalist) think all women are sluts. A misandrist view would be more in the line of the stereotype that all men are braindead 300-pound hulks of testosterone who will have sex with you whether you consent or not. Misandry is more in the line of "You're a man? Get away from me" than "You're an unlikable person? Get away from me". Neckbeards are hated because they are obnoxious losers with zero social skills, not because they are men. The female equivalent of a neckbeard is so rare and instead shoved into the "tumblrina" stereotype that the stereotype was applied to men only similar to tumblrina being female-only. And for that, only /r/the_donald neckbeards think that every woman who uses tumblr are one of those. Tumblr is used a ton by regular teenage/college girls who obsess over Supernatural/Doctor Who/Sherlock as well. Hell, that's their biggest demographic, dwarfing said tumblrinas by a factor of hundreds, and anyone with even a little bit of sanity would know that if they know about tumblr.

And neckbeards do exist, not quite with all of the stereotypical physical traits, but definitely with all of the mental ones. I know a few of them, the only reason why they don't make any advances onto me is because they know I'm not into guys. I always try to help them, but unfortunately they are so deep down in a pit of loneliness and despair that they become jaded to all women and are starting to distance themselves from me. After so many rejections despite trying to "improve" themselves, they fall into Nice Guy mentality. While a portion of misogynists are Nice Guys, they are a small portion compared to other misogynist stereotypes, like the overly macho men that want to avoid all femininity, or many other different stereotypes, or none at all. I know a guy who is a serious misogynist but he isn't awkward or overly macho or fitting in any of these stereotypes. He just had poor influences from his parents' divorce and doesn't even realize what he is doing. When I brought it up to him he was super offended in a way of "you're calling me a misogynist?"

I do have an unhealthy view of men, however, so that could cloud my view and I maybe am the crazy dick-hater some people claim I am. After years and years of that one guy being my best friend, and to see him drift away after several failed relationships and every ex telling me the same thing about him, and to see him become more and more manipulative and dangerous as time went on and not realizing how that actually highlights his red flags even more, until everything between us two utterly snapped when he got excessively loud and confrontational about his racist/sexist politics. And my other guy friends trying to back him up and explain "oh you're just misinterpreting him", "stop being so sensitive", "he's avoiding us because of YOU", I started drifting away from them as well. Even my brother is part of that crowd, and the way he talks about his ex-girlfriends (even one he's still "close friends" with) is disgusting. The girls were the only ones that listened to me and went "yep, sounds like so many people I know". If it weren't for my dad reassuring me that I'm not the crazy one here and he noticed it all from a distance, I probably would have fallen into straight-up misandry. I have shitty friends. I still hang out with them, only because I didn't bother making very many other friends over the years and just stuck with them, but I'm gradually meeting new people. It's really difficult starting over.

Sorry for the rant that derailed from your original point, I just kind of started off with my problem of calling "neckbeard" a misandrist term and then went off from there to something very relevant to the topic at hand. What I just mentioned above is the reason why I care so much about both feminism and MRA. Men generally have very poor understanding of women while women have unhealthy views of men. I just want both of those issues to go away. I was the only girl in my large group of guys, and I've seen a lot of cases for the opposite. And it feels like the stereotype is that they have to be gay. Think about the one token gay guy surrounded by a bunch of girls, or my situation being the vice versa. And it has to do a lot with the poor communication between the two sexes.
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Written by on 12.06.2016 at 19:43

Overwatcher, MS Xena, crumbled him in no time. MS needs you to kill the boredom in here.
IronAngel

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Age: 27
From: Finland

  21.06.2016 at 12:35
Well, I don't think the neckbeard stereotype is categorically misandrist and I probably would not bat an eyelid in a different context, but on further thought it seems to me much like the negative female stereotypes (the man-hating feminazi, the stupid slut, the manipulative leech who'll marry you and divorce for your money, etc.) that feminism is rightly criticising. That is why I find it ironic and worth pointing out in this specific topic. I mean, if it was a stereotype that was chiefly applied to women it would be immediately recognised as problematic.

Of course, this is related to my more general opinion that generalisations, or at least praise or criticism based on a generalised description of a person ('He's pathetic because he's a neckbeard' or whatever) are not very useful and on-point. A negative opinion of women or even complete social ineptitude aren't necessarily connected to what makes a neckbeard: a terrible sense of style, socially uncool hobbies, participation in certain social circles online and overall dorkiness are, to me, much more relevant and have nothing to do with misogyny. Take the YouTuber Boogie2988, for instance: classic neckbeard in many key aspects but to my (limited) knowledge, a (genuinely) nice guy.

Personally, I've witnessed very few bad experiences about gender relations (or whatever). I am a straight guy but the vast majority of my friends have always been girls/women. (In fact all of the closest ones, although I do still occasionally hang out with a few old male schoolmates.) Probably I have been lucky with my social circles - I have always been part of the "nice" and "smart" crowds which were bullied in the lower grades but became the cool thing in high school, and in Uni I avoided the annoying students' union crowd - but I have never found gender relations to be very problematic or acute on a personal, grassroots level. To me the issue is largely political and to a lesser extent cultural (i.e. in the media and social media).
Slayer666

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  Today at 00:29
Daww, this is adorable. One fucking brain-dead piece of shit 17-year-old thinks she's an authority on genders and the differences between them. To make matters even more hilarious, she's from a US state that's constantly dropping in living standards and that's numero uno (as they would say it in the Mexican Socialist Republic of Californexico) in terms of homelessness per-capita.

It kind of makes me wonder how a US state that has the highest GDP of them all can also be so goddamn hard to live in.... but then I remember that a bunch of liberals/progressives/feminists are running the show and it all makes sense.

No wonder half a dozen larger business are running away to Texas every single year.

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