Clouds - Release Statement About Overpriced Copies Of 'Dor' Album On Discogs
Clouds have addressed the issue of their latest album, Dor, being sold on Discogs at very high prices. Apparently a seller from Russia posed as a physical store and tricked the band to sell him copies of the album at wholesale prices and then he put them for sale for as much as 110 euros per copy. Read what the band had to say about this below.
Facebook statement:
"It is with deep sadness that we make public these words, however they must be addressed because this has been going on for far too long and it seems it's becoming a trend for far too many people.
"His name is Ivan Ivanovski from Russia and this post would't have been written had this person been sincere. Instead he tried to lie with the best of it.
"He bought 5 Dor cds and quite a few hand made digipacks, while also buying vinyls from The Vinyl Division on the pretext that he has a shop, ONLY so that he can buy at wholesale prices. And 2 weeks ago, without even receiving them, he posted them on Discogs at the exorbitant price of 110 euros each. Which is not illegal. International laws of purchases make it viable for anyone to re-sell their purchased goods at any price they so desire. And I understand that. And I accept that.
"What I cannot accept is the ethical manner. What I cannot accept is our work becoming other people's business when we, ourselves are trying so hard not to make it a business and keep the promise that it will never become one.
"When we try our very best to make something special, something straight from the heart without cherishing the financial aspects of having a band, when we lose more than we make, all because this band was, is, and will be making music for us all, us as a band and you as our friends and fans, something to connect with and ease the pain and anguish we ALL have inside, when all of these are being said and done, I for one- cannot accept this ethical and moral conduit.
"When finally revealed who this person is, i emailed him telling exactly what I've related so far. And informed him that any orders coming from him again would not be honoured, but refunded and cancelled instantly.
"He proceeded to reply back saying that it's not his fault, that one of his friends had put up the cds by -somehow- accessing his discogs account. A thing that does not make sense. Do all our friends have access to our passwords online? I wouldn't have thought so..
"Yes, there are many out there taking advantage of our work and the limited items we make. We can's stop anyone from doing so, as it would mean we shouldn't print any merchandise at all. Which is not fair to the rest of you, our friends, who would just like to support the band and have a collectible item on your shelf.
"We are a DIY band. We have flaws, we make many mistakes, which we assume responsibility for. It's not easy for any of us in the band. Had we not received the help of just ONE man, this band wouldn't exist and that is the truth. He helps us unconditionally and this is the biggest truth out there. THIS BAND WOULD NOT EXIST WITHOUT HIM.
"What we try to do is something special, not unique, it's hard to be unique in this day and age, we are not redefining the genre nor do we want to try to do so. But we try our hardest to do something good and something that our friends can relate to, find themselves into and vibrate to.
"Cancer sucks, right? Sucks big time. In our band there is someone who is struggling with a father with lung cancer which extended to the brain. Not sure how long that father has left. It's a daily struggle, treatments cost, there is time off work for which there is no payment received, the daily stress and pain of seeing a parent fading away and die, the emotional distress and finally the constant struggle for money to make sure everything is well taken care of, treatments and pills are paid for and everything else at home, rent, food, bills are also paid for.... And what should we do? Take advantage of the people out there who want Clouds merch so bad so we can make enough money to cover treatments and such?
"How can we cope with all these things and still be able to make music, the ONLY thing connected with our lives which offers closure and relief and sanity?
"Rhethoric or not, but this is the truth dear friends.... and the conclusion? the conclusion is we are deeply saddened by these people and their actions. And we would like to encourage you and others to just write to us if you'd like any of our merch, we would like to make sure everyone is happy. We will somehow find a way. Always."
Facebook statement:
"It is with deep sadness that we make public these words, however they must be addressed because this has been going on for far too long and it seems it's becoming a trend for far too many people.
"His name is Ivan Ivanovski from Russia and this post would't have been written had this person been sincere. Instead he tried to lie with the best of it.
"He bought 5 Dor cds and quite a few hand made digipacks, while also buying vinyls from The Vinyl Division on the pretext that he has a shop, ONLY so that he can buy at wholesale prices. And 2 weeks ago, without even receiving them, he posted them on Discogs at the exorbitant price of 110 euros each. Which is not illegal. International laws of purchases make it viable for anyone to re-sell their purchased goods at any price they so desire. And I understand that. And I accept that.
"What I cannot accept is the ethical manner. What I cannot accept is our work becoming other people's business when we, ourselves are trying so hard not to make it a business and keep the promise that it will never become one.
"When we try our very best to make something special, something straight from the heart without cherishing the financial aspects of having a band, when we lose more than we make, all because this band was, is, and will be making music for us all, us as a band and you as our friends and fans, something to connect with and ease the pain and anguish we ALL have inside, when all of these are being said and done, I for one- cannot accept this ethical and moral conduit.
"When finally revealed who this person is, i emailed him telling exactly what I've related so far. And informed him that any orders coming from him again would not be honoured, but refunded and cancelled instantly.
"He proceeded to reply back saying that it's not his fault, that one of his friends had put up the cds by -somehow- accessing his discogs account. A thing that does not make sense. Do all our friends have access to our passwords online? I wouldn't have thought so..
"Yes, there are many out there taking advantage of our work and the limited items we make. We can's stop anyone from doing so, as it would mean we shouldn't print any merchandise at all. Which is not fair to the rest of you, our friends, who would just like to support the band and have a collectible item on your shelf.
"We are a DIY band. We have flaws, we make many mistakes, which we assume responsibility for. It's not easy for any of us in the band. Had we not received the help of just ONE man, this band wouldn't exist and that is the truth. He helps us unconditionally and this is the biggest truth out there. THIS BAND WOULD NOT EXIST WITHOUT HIM.
"What we try to do is something special, not unique, it's hard to be unique in this day and age, we are not redefining the genre nor do we want to try to do so. But we try our hardest to do something good and something that our friends can relate to, find themselves into and vibrate to.
"Cancer sucks, right? Sucks big time. In our band there is someone who is struggling with a father with lung cancer which extended to the brain. Not sure how long that father has left. It's a daily struggle, treatments cost, there is time off work for which there is no payment received, the daily stress and pain of seeing a parent fading away and die, the emotional distress and finally the constant struggle for money to make sure everything is well taken care of, treatments and pills are paid for and everything else at home, rent, food, bills are also paid for.... And what should we do? Take advantage of the people out there who want Clouds merch so bad so we can make enough money to cover treatments and such?
"How can we cope with all these things and still be able to make music, the ONLY thing connected with our lives which offers closure and relief and sanity?
"Rhethoric or not, but this is the truth dear friends.... and the conclusion? the conclusion is we are deeply saddened by these people and their actions. And we would like to encourage you and others to just write to us if you'd like any of our merch, we would like to make sure everyone is happy. We will somehow find a way. Always."
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