Mad Mike
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I couldn't agree more with this. Well said, Bitter!
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farfaramir
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Mar de Grises :')... How beautiful is to see a national band here. VIVA CHILE!!!
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Written by farfaramir on 11.03.2011 at 02:55
Mar de Grises :')... How beautiful is to see a national band here. VIVA CHILE!!!
Chile had another in the doom section... Procession's latest was awesome as well.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
I said it before... And I will say it again. Hopefully some people will get it as you said.
It's stupid to not vote just because you know the party you will vote won't win. First of all: You never know. Second: It's about stating your opinion, givig the support to what you believe (in this case the music you like)... If you don't like to vote for the band you liked the best just because you know they won't win, well let me tell you: You don't like that band as much as you say you do... Hell, you don't even like music for that matter as it seems to be a popularity contest for you.*
*Compare this to a regular political voting, if politics were about popularity and not stating what you believe in... This will be a fucked up place.
Sadly, it is like that in many countríes... There are morons who don't understand what stating your opinion mean. There's NO shame in voting for the underdog... and more important: IT'S NOT USELESS.
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Justicelust
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I'm totally with that ultimate purpose of the Metal Storm Awards. I found many great bands, thank you Metal Storm.
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Kwis
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Written by Justicelust on 11.03.2011 at 10:18
I'm totally with that ultimate purpose of the Metal Storm Awards. I found many great bands, thank you Metal Storm.
So true. That's always been the best part of the Metal Storm Awards. Thanks again for doing an excellent job!
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flamey
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I usually don't even vote without listening to all the bands in the category. This year for example I only voted for 2 categories I think, but who cares? I'm checking out all the nominated bands and discovering awesome stuff.
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Sulac
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So true. I know full well that I discovered a whole slew of new bands through this years awards, from Graveyard Dirt to Accept to The Foreshadowing, who is now one of my favorite artists. Heck, I sat down and listened to Enslaved for the first time because of these awards.
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Nice statement, but why bother? The only one's whining about which bands are winning these digital trophies are kids and teenagers that think their life's are tough. So can't be bothered to take the whining seriously.
I love the Metal Storm awards - it's a great way too keep up with new releases worthwhile giving a spin.
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Am I the only one who thinks that the same people who whine about popular bands winning still vote for their favorite bands regardless of whether or not their nominated album is the best that year? It seems logical that those intelligent enough not to complain about the inevitable are also intelligent enough not to vote like fanboys. So, whiners, what we have here is the case of a man - just one man - standing in a room and telling himself to shut the fuck up. Take your own advice, hypothetical man.
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MétalNoir Fils du Lys
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Sorry, I don't get why you MS staff work so hard making lists of nominees but allow write-in votes... In any awards, voters have to choose a nominee, not vote for some obscure shit or Maiden/Metallica/Megadeth (the only bands they actually know).
I think you should delete write-in votes so Mstormers will make the effort of listening to your suggestions. If they want to bring the staff's attention to an album, they have plenty of time to do so in the MS Awards suggestions, right? I personnally listen to ALL your nominees before voting, but yes, I sometimes write-in vote for my favorite bands, even though they don't necessarily deserve the award, I just know my bands' albums better. Please, help me and my fellow Mstormers open our minds!
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thanos shattered
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Nice article mate!!
Cheers!!
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
Written by MétalNoir on 11.03.2011 at 15:54
Sorry, I don't get why you MS staff work so hard making lists of nominees but allow write-in votes... In any awards, voters have to choose a nominee, not vote for some obscure shit or Maiden/Metallica/Megadeth (the only bands they actually know).
I think you should delete write-in votes so Mstormers will make the effort of listening to your suggestions. If they want to bring the staff's attention to an album, they have plenty of time to do so in the MS Awards suggestions, right? I personnally listen to ALL your nominees before voting, but yes, I sometimes write-in vote for my favorite bands, even though they don't necessarily deserve the award, I just know my bands' albums better. Please, help me and my fellow Mstormers open our minds!
Good question, but here's the why.
1. Popular bands make the nomination cut regularly. some don't, but a lot do. We generally don't care if the band is huge or has 7 fans, if it's good, it's good. if it gets the support, it gets in. in said cases, they're going to win. unless there is an even more popular band in the same category...
2. We are not infallible, either. I can think of some glaring omissions. Cobalt didn't make the 2009 awards because for whatever reason Gin flew under the radar for a while, and i personally didn't get a copy until January of 2010. It was an awesome album that easily would have made the Black Metal list. This year Ihsahn didn't make the list for Prog (not forgotten, just basically a vote short)... it was one of three write-ins i made this year. We miss stuff. And our opinions on what is good are not be-all/end-all. write in votes also serve the purpose of exposing bands to fans, fans to bands... and maybe even staff to bands!
as for people listening to nominees, i'll finish this post quoting a famous proverb:
you can lead a metalhead to water... er, new tunes, but you can't make them \m/.
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MétalNoir Fils du Lys
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Written by BitterCOld on 11.03.2011 at 18:08
Written by MétalNoir on 11.03.2011 at 15:54
Sorry, I don't get why you MS staff work so hard making lists of nominees but allow write-in votes... In any awards, voters have to choose a nominee, not vote for some obscure shit or Maiden/Metallica/Megadeth (the only bands they actually know).
I think you should delete write-in votes so Mstormers will make the effort of listening to your suggestions. If they want to bring the staff's attention to an album, they have plenty of time to do so in the MS Awards suggestions, right? I personnally listen to ALL your nominees before voting, but yes, I sometimes write-in vote for my favorite bands, even though they don't necessarily deserve the award, I just know my bands' albums better. Please, help me and my fellow Mstormers open our minds!
Good question, but here's the why.
1. Popular bands make the nomination cut regularly. some don't, but a lot do. We generally don't care if the band is huge or has 7 fans, if it's good, it's good. if it gets the support, it gets in. in said cases, they're going to win. unless there is an even more popular band in the same category...
2. We are not infallible, either. I can think of some glaring omissions. Cobalt didn't make the 2009 awards because for whatever reason Gin flew under the radar for a while, and i personally didn't get a copy until January of 2010. It was an awesome album that easily would have made the Black Metal list. This year Ihsahn didn't make the list for Prog (not forgotten, just basically a vote short)... it was one of three write-ins i made this year. We miss stuff. And our opinions on what is good are not be-all/end-all. write in votes also serve the purpose of exposing bands to fans, fans to bands... and maybe even staff to bands!
as for people listening to nominees, i'll finish this post quoting a famous proverb:
you can lead a metalhead to water... er, new tunes, but you can't make them \m/.
Mmmkay, thanks for the explanation. So, the goal of the MSA isn't to let people choose between a selection of albums decided by an elite (like, say, the Oscars), but to expose "bands to fans, fans to bands". Glad to see the staff doesn't see itself as an aristocracy
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qlacs "The Quaker"
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Great article, absolutely right!
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Salbitani
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Why dont the MS staff selectcs the winner too??
it would be:
Staff Awards
Fan awards
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Written by Salbitani on 11.03.2011 at 22:41
Why dont the MS staff selectcs the winner too??
it would be:
Staff Awards
Fan awards
?
We do. Our awards come out a week to two after voting closes and the general winners are announced. we do this to for heightened antici.....
...pation.
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Written by BitterCOld on 12.03.2011 at 01:00
Written by Salbitani on 11.03.2011 at 22:41
Why dont the MS staff selectcs the winner too??
it would be:
Staff Awards
Fan awards
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We do. Our awards come out a week to two after voting closes and the general winners are announced.
But if somebody doesn't have a life, then he can check each staff member's votes and figure out who'll win before you can announce it
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
Written by [user id=105293] on 12.03.2011 at 01:17
But if somebody doesn't have a life, then he can check each staff member's votes and figure out who'll win before you can announce it
how? who did I vote for? eager to see if you can tell.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by MétalNoir on 11.03.2011 at 20:30
Mmmkay, thanks for the explanation. So, the goal of the MSA isn't to let people choose between a selection of albums decided by an elite (like, say, the Oscars), but to expose "bands to fans, fans to bands". Glad to see the staff doesn't see itself as an aristocracy
Oh gorgeous day... One person udnerstood the obvious fact. I'm not messing with you... It's really good that youg ot it right compared to all the morons whos till don't get the point.
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Written by BitterCOld on 12.03.2011 at 01:23
Written by [user id=105293] on 12.03.2011 at 01:17
But if somebody doesn't have a life, then he can check each staff member's votes and figure out who'll win before you can announce it
how? who did I vote for? eager to see if you can tell.
What I mean is that you can check each staff member's ratings for all the albums that came out that year in every genre. That's why only someone without a life could possibly do it. I'm sure as hell not going to waste time on that lol.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by [user id=105293] on 12.03.2011 at 01:17
But if somebody doesn't have a life, then he can check each staff member's votes and figure out who'll win before you can announce it
Not all of the Staff or Elites vote, and not all have voted on every nominated album. Good luck to those that try making an educated guess though.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
Written by [user id=105293] on 12.03.2011 at 01:30
Written by BitterCOld on 12.03.2011 at 01:23
Written by [user id=105293] on 12.03.2011 at 01:17
But if somebody doesn't have a life, then he can check each staff member's votes and figure out who'll win before you can announce it
how? who did I vote for? eager to see if you can tell.
What I mean is that you can check each staff member's ratings for all the albums that came out that year in every genre. That's why only someone without a life could possibly do it. I'm sure as hell not going to waste time on that lol.
i honestly was eager to see how transparent i was. some are indeed obvious wtih me, some are less so.
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Written by BitterCOld on 12.03.2011 at 01:40
Written by [user id=105293] on 12.03.2011 at 01:30
Written by BitterCOld on 12.03.2011 at 01:23
Written by [user id=105293] on 12.03.2011 at 01:17
But if somebody doesn't have a life, then he can check each staff member's votes and figure out who'll win before you can announce it
how? who did I vote for? eager to see if you can tell.
What I mean is that you can check each staff member's ratings for all the albums that came out that year in every genre. That's why only someone without a life could possibly do it. I'm sure as hell not going to waste time on that lol.
i honestly was eager to see how transparent i was. some are indeed obvious wtih me, some are less so.
If you want me to take a guess, I'd say that Enslaved winning the BM category is pretty much certain. But I don't need to be a genius to think so, since it's a masterpiece and everybody on MS loves it, including myself.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
Written by [user id=105293] on 12.03.2011 at 01:45
If you want me to take a guess, I'd say that Enslaved winning the BM category is pretty much certain. But I don't need to be a genius to think so, since it's a masterpiece and everybody on MS loves it, including myself.
yeah, that one was obvious. at least as far as my voting goes. most of my votes are apparent, though, with my best of list. i wouldn't advertise theme during the voting period, but won't hide them after the fact.
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Salbitani
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
Written by Salbitani on 12.03.2011 at 04:44
oh ok, sorry but i cant see those awards in 2009 for example :/
here you go...
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I suppose I can agree with you.
Without the Awards I probably never would have listened to Blood of the Nations and I'm actually giving that Enslaved album a try.
Metal Storm is credit to life.
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Salbitani
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Written by BitterCOld on 12.03.2011 at 05:19
Written by Salbitani on 12.03.2011 at 04:44
oh ok, sorry but i cant see those awards in 2009 for example :/
here you go...
Thank you
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Axe Argonian
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I have a question, though it may be off-topic. Why is there not a "Best Overall Album of the Year" award? I think that a category comprising 30 of the year's best albums would be quite interesting. I'm not sure whether you would agree, but I think that watching albums by unrelated yet popular bands like Enslaved, Mar de Grises, Accept, Dark Tranquility, etc. compete for user's votes would be quite thrilling, actually.
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