Theatres Des Vampires

Well, this is a simple forum: discuss Theatres Des Vampires!
For those who don't know this incredible Italian band, they play an excellent mixture of Symphonic Black and Gothic metal (maybe the last album isn't black, only gothic) with almost exclusively vampiric lyrics, full of erotic, bloody and black shades...
In the last album Alexander quits the band, and TdV changes a little bit their style... But they remains a great band in my opinion!

So, tell me what do you think about their music, their lyrics, their songs and explain your reasons...
Come on, discuss!

I have only one album: Bloody Lunatic Assylum, and well, I can see that it's full of satanic lyrics, which I don't like, but some of the melodies are great, like the beginning of the second track: "Till the last droop of blood" or "Dances With Satan"

A friend recently told me that Nightbreed of Macabria is still better, I have to check it out

Which of the albums are the best so start off with? Always meant to buy something of theirs but never knew which one.

I have heard some songs....they weren't that impressive but did not provoke any negative emotions either....perhaps I'll even try more of their music one day...........

I got into the song When The Wolf Cry, very awesome. But when I try once listen to another song in the same album, I dont remember the name of that song. It scared me, then I dont take cocern much to them. Though I heard from many metalheads from my country, they appreciate Theatres Des Vampires much and the album that has the song When The Wolf Cry

That album is "The Vampire Chronicles"; as "Bloody Lunatic Asylum" it's still bound to Black Metal style, Alexander was the only vocalist in V.Chronicles. Bloody...is a great symphonic black album, there's great evil songs as "Till The Last Drop Of Blood", "Dances With Satan" and "Lilith's Child"...
But in their last album the only vocalist is Sonya and it's a very gothic album...
I suggest to start with their best album, in my opinion, "Suicide Vampire", which contains both Black and Gothic styles, dark atmospheres and great interpretation of the songs... try to listen to "La Danse Macabre Du Vampire" or "Lilith Mater Inferorum", very good and theatrical...
Also "Nightbreed Of Macabria" is great, more Gothic but really incisive...

Thanks Cradle of bodom, it´s always nice when somebody starts a thread about a band that i haven´t listened to in a long time.
Theatres Des Vampire and the Vampire chronicles by Anne Rice has really made a mark in my life.
Best song in my opinon? Dances with satan (cut the throat version)

Theatres Des Vampires - one great band.
Everything that this band does (music wise) is perfect.

As far, I've got "The Blackend Collection", "Pleasure and Pain" and the "The Addiction Tour 2006" DVD.

With any of the line ups, I love the lyrics and the structe of the songs.

My favorites are as followed: 'Til The Last Drop Of Blood, Dances With Satan (both versions), Love Never Dies, Enthrone The Dark Angel (both versions), Lilith Mater Inferorum, Queen Of The Damned, Bloodlust, Pleasure and Pain (both versions), Never Again, Black Mirror.

Amazing band!

Personally I like Suicide Vampire and Nightbreed of Macabria the best; but overall they play a great mixture of black and gothic metal, somewhat nowadays labeled as extreme gothic metal.

I don't really think the departure of Lord Vampyr had a big influence on them, they still remain original.

I aslo saw thew live once and their show was amazing; full of darkness, heresy, vampirism and eroticism. Sonya Scarlet is a great front-woman and she made one hell of a show.

Theatres Des Vampires in Extreme Metal forum?? C'mon... Naaah....

Written by Crow_Princess on 18.12.2006 at 21:00

Theatres Des Vampires in Extreme Metal forum?? C'mon... Naaah....

Well, you're not wrong...
I was undecided to put TdV in melodic metal forum (for their gothic component) or in extreme metal forum (for their black past)... But I thought that their Vampiric style isn't really suitable for a "melodic" definition, so I put them in extreme metal forum. Anyway, I don't think it's so important, isn't it?

one of my favourite bands. They have a unique vampiric necromantic atmosphere and i more love their theatrical scene appearance.

I believe they are a symphonic gothic metal band with black metal influences like the growls and the double boot at the drums. However they prefer the title of Vampiric Theatrical Gothic Metal band.

Written by The Alchemist on 08.11.2006 at 16:37

I have only one album: Bloody Lunatic Assylum, and well, I can see that it's full of satanic lyrics, which I don't like, but some of the melodies are great, like the beginning of the second track: "Till the last droop of blood" or "Dances With Satan"

A friend recently told me that Nightbreed of Macabria is still better, I have to check it out

in their interviews they mention that they are not true satanists but they are more close to some neopagan religions. Also they totally disagree with christianity and its theories.

I got Nightbreed Of Macabria, what a great album! much better than Bloody Luantic Assylum, and besides, it has a great variety: vampiric lyrics, vampiric touch in music, classical music influences, and my favorite song: "La Danse Macabria Du Vampire" with the techno touch... amazing!! ... danse danse danse the vampire...

I like their older albums, but I am not a fan of new releases, it is strange cause many people I know hate their old albums and love new...

Written by APOHAKC on 28.02.2007 at 23:03

I like their older albums, but I am not a fan of new releases, it is strange cause many people I know hate their old albums and love new...

According to what I read, TDV older albums are more black metal, while the new ones are more gothic

Probably yes, but I didn't listen new albums much, so I am not sure...

Written by APOHAKC on 01.03.2007 at 21:15

Probably yes, but I didn't listen new albums much, so I am not sure...

If you like Gothic music, I'm pretty sure you'll like them, I recommend Nightbreed of Macabria, becacuse of the reasons I posted above

I don't like them really...why combining black with goth??? it ruins it esspecialy female clean goth vocals...i think clean vocals are ok but in the black metal spirit...

they are not black metal anymore, they are Gothic / Rock. the old stuff reminds me Succubus Incubus. since Lord Vampyr left the band, Sonya Scarlet change the band to a more Gothik-ish style for girls and the music became softer and softer. the first albums till Nightbreed of Macabria was amazing for the lovers of this genre.

All of their work is great in its own way, the old melodic black metal was amazing and bloody lunatic asylum was quality. Nightbreed was really different to everything else but id have to say its probably their best album, far more gothic than anything else with almost all the black metal elements gone. It was a little tricky to get into pleasure and pain seeing as lord vampyr was kicked out but after a good few listens its bloody awesome. Desire of Damnation was a nice little filler and their new album (thats out in a few weeks!!!) sounds really amazing. Again anima noir is going to be very gothic/ Goth rock. It would be nice for some more vampyrisme style stuff but thats probably not going to happen and sonyas amazing anyway.

Written by VampyJess on 24.04.2008 at 11:54

All of their work is great in its own way, the old melodic black metal was amazing and bloody lunatic asylum was quality. Nightbreed was really different to everything else but id have to say its probably their best album, far more gothic than anything else with almost all the black metal elements gone. It was a little tricky to get into pleasure and pain seeing as lord vampyr was kicked out but after a good few listens its bloody awesome. Desire of Damnation was a nice little filler and their new album (thats out in a few weeks!!!) sounds really amazing. Again anima noir is going to be very gothic/ Goth rock. It would be nice for some more vampyrisme style stuff but thats probably not going to happen and sonyas amazing anyway.

Let us know what you think of the new album when you receive it! I think it's very good

Written by NOИ on 22.02.2008 at 22:28

Sonya Scarlet change the band to a more Gothik-ish style for girls

This is quite an offensive statement in so many ways It not only puts down women and girls because you imply that what women and girls like is, by nature, weaker and poorer of quality than what a band can produce with a male singer, but it also offends me as a listener. If you don't like the band's new direction, well, that's perfectly okay, as I never liked the band's music until Lord Vampyr left the band. But why must the band's new sound be labelled as "girly"? And indirectly, "weaker"? It seems more like a bitter fan comment than a genuine objective opinion to me...

Personally, "Pleasure And Pain" is a masterpiece of transitionary metal, full of well-written lyrics and an emotional focus that I've found so rarely in music. I have already received my copy of "Anima Noir," and it continues the direction started on "Pleasure And Pain": It's now incorporating synth elements that are decidedly not metal, and it's even less abrasive than "Pleasure And Pain." I think fans of gothic club music will appreciate some of the elements in the new CD - though I think the band needs another release to really perfect this style now.

Interview with Fabio from Theatres des Vampires

Thanks for the link houssem, it is a shame about lord vampyr though when you read through it

Just had to say anima noir is amaaaazziinnnggg!!!! Still not really as good as the good old stuff but its still mint for what it is. Its so different, its gone far deeper along thepath of electro goth rock, no black metal left in there at all.

Unfortunally I am not really that fond of Anima Noir, they barely had any competition in metal with their vamperic music but in the electronic/darkwave genre they fall in cliche and their are allready way better bands in the genre, such as Blutengel who make way better vamperic electronic music but still Anima Noir is good but it doesn't beat any of Blutengel's stuff.

They'd better hope and pray that Depeche Mode/Sire Records legal team doesn't ever stumble on to the track "Dust" - the opening bit sounds oh so slightly familiar to DM's "Black Celebration", released over 20 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCSlaOD_JI0

Written by BitterCOld on 10.12.2008 at 07:58

They'd better hope and pray that Depeche Mode/Sire Records legal team doesn't ever stumble on to the track "Dust" - the opening bit sounds oh so slightly familiar to DM's "Black Celebration", released over 20 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCSlaOD_JI0

Okay, my knowledge of Depeche Mode is not as good as it should be (mainly from laziness in not getting their albums), but I don't think the similarity is that strong... Inspired by DM, yes. But certainly not in a way to draw anyone's attention. I do see what you are saying though! But the DM song is more enjoyable, I think, so thanks for bringing it up

What did you think of the rest of the album, "Anima Noir"?

I still don't think it measures up to what I think is a masterpiece, Pleasure & Pain... "Anima Noir" seems to pull too much off of others' ideas, whereas Pleasure & Pain had its own identity to me.

Written by Jason W. on 10.12.2008 at 08:45

Written by BitterCOld on 10.12.2008 at 07:58

They'd better hope and pray that Depeche Mode/Sire Records legal team doesn't ever stumble on to the track "Dust" - the opening bit sounds oh so slightly familiar to DM's "Black Celebration", released over 20 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCSlaOD_JI0

Okay, my knowledge of Depeche Mode is not as good as it should be (mainly from laziness in not getting their albums), but I don't think the similarity is that strong... Inspired by DM, yes. But certainly not in a way to draw anyone's attention. I do see what you are saying though! But the DM song is more enjoyable, I think, so thanks for bringing it up

What did you think of the rest of the album, "Anima Noir"?

I still don't think it measures up to what I think is a masterpiece, Pleasure & Pain... "Anima Noir" seems to pull too much off of others' ideas, whereas Pleasure & Pain had its own identity to me.

if the notes are not identical, the sequence is... the equivalent of just sliding the starting point a key or two up the keyboard. even the guitar chimes in on the same opening note (powerchord) that the secondary keyboard kicks in on the 45/46 second mark of the youtube clip. it's pretty blatant. it's perhaps a notch below Vanilla Ice claiming the opening beat to "Ice Ice Baby" wasn't a rip off of "Under Pressure" because of one extra high hat click.

as for the cd, honestly, i did not like it at all. made it through three tracks (the highpoint was The Cult cover, "Rain"), then "Dust" finished it for me. maybe i'll check out the rest later - it's not my cup of tea to begin with, but the rip off of one of my favorite songs ever was particularly disenchanting to me.

Written by BitterCOld on 10.12.2008 at 09:00

if the notes are not identical, the sequence is... the equivalent of just sliding the starting point a key or two up the keyboard. even the guitar chimes in on the same opening note (powerchord) that the secondary keyboard kicks in on the 45/46 second mark of the youtube clip. it's pretty blatant. it's perhaps a notch below Vanilla Ice claiming the opening beat to "Ice Ice Baby" wasn't a rip off of "Under Pressure" because of one extra high hat click.

as for the cd, honestly, i did not like it at all. made it through three tracks (the highpoint was The Cult cover, "Rain"), then "Dust" finished it for me. maybe i'll check out the rest later - it's not my cup of tea to begin with, but the rip off of one of my favorite songs ever was particularly disenchanting to me.

Perhaps I'm not as irritated by it because, well, I just don't think the song "Dust" is that great of a song to begin with - in fact, I can't even remember it at all, and I just re-listened to it a half hour ago! I've yet to be able to sit through the album in one sitting to be honest - it was such a drastic change compared to the hundreds of times I've listened to Pleasure & Pain

But yes you are definitely more attuned to hearing the sounds of the DM song, so perhaps if I heard it a few hundred times, I'd be feeling the same way as you