Iced Earth

Written by [user id=5724] on 29.06.2006 at 22:34

If I am correct, you're talking about The Glorious Burden and on right? If so, IMO the guy sounds too much like Bruce Dickinson [get off my ass].

As for Iced Earth...I believe 'The Phantom Opera Ghost' is one of the finest examples of musicianship I've ever heard! They used like 3 different guitars EACH in that song alone...and the drums are amazing. A true epic of a song.

I don't think you 're right by saying that Owens sounds too much like BD. Dickinson is far greater than Owens. And has deeper voice than Owens. Can't find the similarity...:noidea: I don' t know what you think, but you must accept that Dickinson is one of the 3 best metal voices. Pespect!

is there any chance of the returning of Matt? I read that somewhere...

I don't think so, see this site :
http://www.firststateforce.org/band.html

Matt seems to have starded a new life, great for him if his happy with this, too bad for real IE fans...


I'd like to hear some this policemen gigs to see what it looks like though...it'd be funny to see that !

ye I've been noticed already but anyway Iced Earth actual performance is with a bald man so wtf? he could return!

Written by [user id=1787] on 30.06.2006 at 01:43

My favs from the band goes in this order:

Dark Saga
Something Wicked Comes this Way
Horror Show
Burned Offerings
Glorious Burden
The Night Of The Stormrider
Iced Earth

Other than Iced Earth the album,I think their albums are classic.

And Matt gotta be my fav singer,but I think Tim did a great job on GB and I hope he is on both the next albums their gonna release soon wich Im really looking forward too.

haha my fav
Iced Earth
Night Of Stormrider
Alive in Atenas
Something Wicked Tis way Comes

seems you had diferentvorder

Has anybody heard about The Alive In Athens DVD being Released newly??

Written by iMPERiAL_iCE on 10.10.2006 at 15:11

Has anybody heard about The Alive In Athens DVD being Released newly??

I think in
November 1st, 2006 etliets MA says so and checjh some site of band or record co or MS

Really good news that Bred Smedley is back! But the greatest news would be if MATT BARLOW came back!!! This would be a reincarnation for Iced Earth!!!

Fucking terrorists ruined Iced Earth. It appears that John is off the patriotic bandwagon, now we just need to wait for Barlow. Maybe he will realize that rocking out across the world is a little cooler than busting kids for drinking beer.

I really liked Barlow and a few Iced Earth albums, such fucking amazing vocals and shredding, Jon is a great guitarist, but...lately...since Owen joined... I dunno, hasn't been up to scratch.

I finally received Burnt Offerings the other day and I"m glad I didn't give up on this band because this cd is pretty good. I originally got Horror Show and didn't like it, but I've warmed up to it. I think I'll pick up more of their albums sometime in the future.

Just got 'The Glorious Burden'. A good album, but a little to patriotic at times

I'm not really into this band, I haven't heard many songs, "I died for you" and "Watching over me" are my favorite ones

Written by The Alchemist on 30.10.2006 at 19:52

I'm not really into this band, I haven't heard many songs, "I died for you" and "Watching over me" are my favorite ones

If you like ballad-type songs, you should try 'The Dark Saga'-it's very emotional and quite moody.

However, their other discs are even better. Try 'Alive in Athens' (Get the 3 Disc, everything else is bullshit) to get a good cross-section of their material up to and including 'Something Wicked This Way Comes'.

Written by [user id=1279] on 13.10.2006 at 00:44

I really liked Barlow and a few Iced Earth albums, such fucking amazing vocals and shredding, Jon is a great guitarist, but...lately...since Owen joined... I dunno, hasn't been up to scratch.

As someone wisely said... Tim Owens fucks every band he gets into... (Ex: Judas Priest) =). Really he's not bad at all... but he just doesn't fit in the bands he joins he should make a solo career or smthing ^^

Written by Dam3k on 30.10.2006 at 23:33

Written by [user id=1279] on 13.10.2006 at 00:44

I really liked Barlow and a few Iced Earth albums, such fucking amazing vocals and shredding, Jon is a great guitarist, but...lately...since Owen joined... I dunno, hasn't been up to scratch.

As someone wisely said... Tim Owens fucks every band he gets into... (Ex: Judas Priest) =). Really he's not bad at all... but he just doesn't fit in the bands he joins he should make a solo career or smthing ^^

Beyond Fear

I haven't heard any of his stuff, myself, but I have been told by Iced Earth/Priest fans that it is good.

The problem with Ripper in IE and Priest, I feel, is not that he fucks it up (his vocals do grate slightly, though), but is that the roles he has had to fill are simply beyond all but the best vocalist's capacity. Following both Rob 'The-coolest-gay-man-in-history' Halford and Matt 'the-coolest-ginger-in-metal' Barlow was never going to be easy, and Ripper has...a very Marmite approach to singing...you love it or you hate it. Still, he does great on Gettysburg, so maybe the problem was a dip in songwriting rather than vocals...I'm not sure how much he wrote for Priest, but his presence alone doesn't account for the dip in quality from Painkiller to Jugulator/Demolition (which are highly underrated...but that's another story).

Written by RavenLord on 30.10.2006 at 22:04

Written by The Alchemist on 30.10.2006 at 19:52

I'm not really into this band, I haven't heard many songs, "I died for you" and "Watching over me" are my favorite ones

If you like ballad-type songs, you should try 'The Dark Saga'-it's very emotional and quite moody.

However, their other discs are even better. Try 'Alive in Athens' (Get the 3 Disc, everything else is bullshit) to get a good cross-section of their material up to and including 'Something Wicked This Way Comes'.

Iced Earth's "ballads" are the best. As The Alchemist, my fav is "I died for you".

@ The Alchemist: I recommend you "Alive in Athens" too. Fucking masterpiece.

Written by Bitch Boy on 03.11.2006 at 05:32

Iced Earth's "ballads" are the best. As The Alchemist, my fav is "I died for you".

A Question of Heaven does it for me. It's one of the more emotional of IE's ballads (and for emotional, read 'not 'When the Eagle Cries'')

Written by Dam3k on 30.10.2006 at 23:33

Written by [user id=1279] on 13.10.2006 at 00:44

I really liked Barlow and a few Iced Earth albums, such fucking amazing vocals and shredding, Jon is a great guitarist, but...lately...since Owen joined... I dunno, hasn't been up to scratch.

As someone wisely said... Tim Owens fucks every band he gets into... (Ex: Judas Priest) =). Really he's not bad at all... but he just doesn't fit in the bands he joins he should make a solo career or smthing ^^

Look, I was a big fan of Matthew Barlow as well but he made the choice to quit Iced Earth and join a police force. So, Iced Earth needed a replacer, someone who has the capibilities for high screams and Tim Owens was a good choice. Also I do miss Matthew Barlow (his voice was "warmer") but without Tim there wouldn't be Iced Earth anymore. The only other possible replacer was the singer of CRESENT, his voice sounds like Matthew Barlow's voice.


About Tim Owens fucking up his bands; Ever heard Winters Bane? Heard Beyond Fear? Both albums are good, Winters bane is even a master^piece!

He did an awesome job with Judas Priest, IMO "Jugulator" was the best Priest album, although it's not typical Priest (they should have released it under another bandname). The last Iced Earth album was for sure a good album, but some songs were too cheesy for me. I prefer the old Iced Earth like "Night of the stormrider" and "Burnt offerings", both are US POWER METAL MASTERPIECES!

Written by Hellish Star on 03.11.2006 at 12:14

Written by Dam3k on 30.10.2006 at 23:33

Written by [user id=1279] on 13.10.2006 at 00:44

I really liked Barlow and a few Iced Earth albums, such fucking amazing vocals and shredding, Jon is a great guitarist, but...lately...since Owen joined... I dunno, hasn't been up to scratch.

As someone wisely said... Tim Owens fucks every band he gets into... (Ex: Judas Priest) =). Really he's not bad at all... but he just doesn't fit in the bands he joins he should make a solo career or smthing ^^

Look, I was a big fan of Matthew Barlow as well but he made the choice to quit Iced Earth and join a police force. So, Iced Earth needed a replacer, someone who has the capibilities for high screams and Tim Owens was a good choice. Also I do miss Matthew Barlow (his voice was "warmer") but without Tim there wouldn't be Iced Earth anymore. The only other possible replacer was the singer of CRESENT, his voice sounds like Matthew Barlow's voice.

About Tim Owens fucking up his bands; Ever heard Winters Bane? Heard Beyond Fear? Both albums are good, Winters bane is even a master^piece!

He did an awesome job with Judas Priest, IMO "Jugulator" was the best Priest album, although it's not typical Priest (they should have released it under another bandname). The last Iced Earth album was for sure a good album, but some songs were too cheesy for me. I prefer the old Iced Earth like "Night of the stormrider" and "Burnt offerings", both are US POWER METAL MASTERPIECES!

Ye I know they needed a replacement but for sure Tim Owens is not the man dude, Matt is almost a gothic vocalist with high pitched moments so u need a dynamic vocalist... ye the cresent vocalist could be a very good choice!! HE rocks!! , Tim Owens it's just all about high pitched, I must clearify I didn't mean he did a bad performance in Judas Priest I just said (or wanted to say) I don't like the works with him in it... but the old stuff performances with Tim Owens were pretty cool.

I'll check that albums out =).

And about the last album ye it's cheesy indeed, but as u said a good album^^ I really like songs like "The reckoning" awesome^^. But I don't reckon that are power metal albums... Iced Earth it's for sure NOT a power metal band... IMO they are somewhat like dark heavy metal (it's a very good term used by metalstorm) or thrash metal, anyway their own explanation it's pretty correct:"heavy metal band that combines influences from thrash metal, power metal, NWOBHM with gothic touches" I couldn't say it better

@ dam3k: I didn't say Iced Eart was power metal, I said they were US power metal. US power metal is a different genre which is based on
-old porgressive metal (old Fates Warning, old Queensryche,...)
-(Bay Area) US thrash (like Forbidden, Agent Steel,...)
-Traditional metal and NWOBHM like Judas Priest, Iron Maiden,....

I'm talking about bands like Helstar, Jag Panzer, Vicious Rumors, Ravensthorne, Deadly Blessing,.... which are far different from bands like Helloween, Stratovarius, Sonata Arctica and the other EUROPEAN power metal bands, you see

The last Iced Earth album is more traditional metal, not typical US power metal but if you listen to "Burnt offerings" and "Night of the stormrider" you'll listen to pure US power metal.

If you can read French, check this site were they also make the difference
http://www.metaluniverse.net/power_metal.php

@ Hellish Star: "US power metal"?? Never heard of that. Thanks for the article. They're right in IE's influences (thrash, heavy, power). So we can say that IE is thrashy power metal??

Written by Bitch Boy on 03.11.2006 at 22:32

@ Hellish Star: "US power metal"?? Never heard of that. Thanks for the article. They're right in IE's influences (thrash, heavy, power). So we can say that IE is thrashy power metal??

Well, US power metal is not as brutal as thrash metal. It's more melodic, more progressive. Try for example Helstar (www.myspace.com/helstar) or Deadly Blessing (http://www.myspace.com/aneyetothepast). Both are good examples... If you listen to the old Iced Earth you'll hear similar things.

If you want to learn more about this kind of metal, try the topic about US metal

Written by Dam3k on 03.11.2006 at 16:34

Ye I know they needed a replacement but for sure Tim Owens is not the man dude, Matt is almost a gothic vocalist with high pitched moments so u need a dynamic vocalist... Tim Owens it's just all about high pitched

Completely agree with that. One of several reasons that IE became a legendary band is Barlow's engaging, dynamic, and unique voice. He didn't just scream/sing high like all the other guys out there. He was DIFFERENT and he was good at it. Tim may be good at what he does but it's just the same as everyone else. Bad choice for a replacement IMO.

(And I agree that IE is well classified simply as "US Power Metal" but if you want to get nitty-gritty and specific then they're just a hyrid of power, heavy, thrash and a bit of prog. That's way too complicated tho )

Written by Susan on 03.11.2006 at 23:25

Written by Dam3k on 03.11.2006 at 16:34

Ye I know they needed a replacement but for sure Tim Owens is not the man dude, Matt is almost a gothic vocalist with high pitched moments so u need a dynamic vocalist... Tim Owens it's just all about high pitched

Completely agree with that. One of several reasons that IE became a legendary band is Barlow's engaging, dynamic, and unique voice. He didn't just scream/sing high like all the other guys out there. He was DIFFERENT and he was good at it. Tim may be good at what he does but it's just the same as everyone else. Bad choice for a replacement IMO.

(And I agree that IE is well classified simply as "US Power Metal" but if you want to get nitty-gritty and specific then they're just a hyrid of power, heavy, thrash and a bit of prog. That's way too complicated tho )

It's always cool find people who share my opinion but one thing.. US power metal? c'mon, first what's the difference btw power metal and us power metal... :S? and second does a double bass drum make a band power metal ?

Written by Dam3k on 04.11.2006 at 00:12

Written by Susan on 03.11.2006 at 23:25

Written by Dam3k on 03.11.2006 at 16:34

Ye I know they needed a replacement but for sure Tim Owens is not the man dude, Matt is almost a gothic vocalist with high pitched moments so u need a dynamic vocalist... Tim Owens it's just all about high pitched

Completely agree with that. One of several reasons that IE became a legendary band is Barlow's engaging, dynamic, and unique voice. He didn't just scream/sing high like all the other guys out there. He was DIFFERENT and he was good at it. Tim may be good at what he does but it's just the same as everyone else. Bad choice for a replacement IMO.

(And I agree that IE is well classified simply as "US Power Metal" but if you want to get nitty-gritty and specific then they're just a hyrid of power, heavy, thrash and a bit of prog. That's way too complicated tho )

It's always cool find people who share my opinion but one thing.. US power metal? c'mon, first what's the difference btw power metal and us power metal... :S? and second does a double bass drum make a band power metal ?

US power metal combines parts of prog, speed and thrash metal with a traditional heavy metal base. Prominent bands: Helstar, Jag Panzer, Metal Church, Liege Lord, Vicious Rumors, etc.
Old Iced Earth is the same category: US power/thrash (up to Burnt Offerings)

Written by [user id=1017] on 04.11.2006 at 00:36

Written by Dam3k on 04.11.2006 at 00:12

Written by Susan on 03.11.2006 at 23:25

Written by Dam3k on 03.11.2006 at 16:34

Ye I know they needed a replacement but for sure Tim Owens is not the man dude, Matt is almost a gothic vocalist with high pitched moments so u need a dynamic vocalist... Tim Owens it's just all about high pitched

Completely agree with that. One of several reasons that IE became a legendary band is Barlow's engaging, dynamic, and unique voice. He didn't just scream/sing high like all the other guys out there. He was DIFFERENT and he was good at it. Tim may be good at what he does but it's just the same as everyone else. Bad choice for a replacement IMO.

(And I agree that IE is well classified simply as "US Power Metal" but if you want to get nitty-gritty and specific then they're just a hyrid of power, heavy, thrash and a bit of prog. That's way too complicated tho )

It's always cool find people who share my opinion but one thing.. US power metal? c'mon, first what's the difference btw power metal and us power metal... :S? and second does a double bass drum make a band power metal ?

US power metal combines parts of prog, speed and thrash metal with a traditional heavy metal base. Prominent bands: Helstar, Jag Panzer, Metal Church, Liege Lord, Vicious Rumors, etc.
Old Iced Earth is the same category: US power/thrash (up to Burnt Offerings)

I'm anti pointless-tags anyway I'll check that bands out and try to analize and see if they are that different from the "main styles", in order to don't need to use another tag... =)

Written by Dam3k on 04.11.2006 at 01:00

Written by [user id=1017] on 04.11.2006 at 00:36

Written by Dam3k on 04.11.2006 at 00:12

Written by Susan on 03.11.2006 at 23:25

Written by Dam3k on 03.11.2006 at 16:34

Ye I know they needed a replacement but for sure Tim Owens is not the man dude, Matt is almost a gothic vocalist with high pitched moments so u need a dynamic vocalist... Tim Owens it's just all about high pitched

Completely agree with that. One of several reasons that IE became a legendary band is Barlow's engaging, dynamic, and unique voice. He didn't just scream/sing high like all the other guys out there. He was DIFFERENT and he was good at it. Tim may be good at what he does but it's just the same as everyone else. Bad choice for a replacement IMO.

(And I agree that IE is well classified simply as "US Power Metal" but if you want to get nitty-gritty and specific then they're just a hyrid of power, heavy, thrash and a bit of prog. That's way too complicated tho )

It's always cool find people who share my opinion but one thing.. US power metal? c'mon, first what's the difference btw power metal and us power metal... :S? and second does a double bass drum make a band power metal ?

US power metal combines parts of prog, speed and thrash metal with a traditional heavy metal base. Prominent bands: Helstar, Jag Panzer, Metal Church, Liege Lord, Vicious Rumors, etc.
Old Iced Earth is the same category: US power/thrash (up to Burnt Offerings)

I'm anti pointless-tags anyway I'll check that bands out and try to analize and see if they are that different from the "main styles", in order to don't need to use another tag... =)

with all respect but isn't there a change older guys can be right for just once? Believe me: US power metal is a different style from power metal as you guys know it; Sonata Arctica, Stratovarius, Helloween, etc.... Both genres have a different history and sound different and both are official metal genres. LISTEN TO IT !!!!!!!!!!!

Written by Hellish Star on 04.11.2006 at 06:00

Written by Dam3k on 04.11.2006 at 01:00

Written by [user id=1017] on 04.11.2006 at 00:36

Written by Dam3k on 04.11.2006 at 00:12

Written by Susan on 03.11.2006 at 23:25

Written by Dam3k on 03.11.2006 at 16:34

Ye I know they needed a replacement but for sure Tim Owens is not the man dude, Matt is almost a gothic vocalist with high pitched moments so u need a dynamic vocalist... Tim Owens it's just all about high pitched

Completely agree with that. One of several reasons that IE became a legendary band is Barlow's engaging, dynamic, and unique voice. He didn't just scream/sing high like all the other guys out there. He was DIFFERENT and he was good at it. Tim may be good at what he does but it's just the same as everyone else. Bad choice for a replacement IMO.

(And I agree that IE is well classified simply as "US Power Metal" but if you want to get nitty-gritty and specific then they're just a hyrid of power, heavy, thrash and a bit of prog. That's way too complicated tho )

It's always cool find people who share my opinion but one thing.. US power metal? c'mon, first what's the difference btw power metal and us power metal... :S? and second does a double bass drum make a band power metal ?

US power metal combines parts of prog, speed and thrash metal with a traditional heavy metal base. Prominent bands: Helstar, Jag Panzer, Metal Church, Liege Lord, Vicious Rumors, etc.
Old Iced Earth is the same category: US power/thrash (up to Burnt Offerings)

I'm anti pointless-tags anyway I'll check that bands out and try to analize and see if they are that different from the "main styles", in order to don't need to use another tag... =)

with all respect but isn't there a change older guys can be right for just once? Believe me: US power metal is a different style from power metal as you guys know it; Sonata Arctica, Stratovarius, Helloween, etc.... Both genres have a different history and sound different and both are official metal genres. LISTEN TO IT !!!!!!!!!!!

Could u plz give an explanation?why sound different? differences, points etc of us power metal thx

Written by Dam3k on 04.11.2006 at 15:20

Written by Hellish Star on 04.11.2006 at 06:00

Written by Dam3k on 04.11.2006 at 01:00

Written by [user id=1017] on 04.11.2006 at 00:36

Written by Dam3k on 04.11.2006 at 00:12

Written by Susan on 03.11.2006 at 23:25

Written by Dam3k on 03.11.2006 at 16:34

Ye I know they needed a replacement but for sure Tim Owens is not the man dude, Matt is almost a gothic vocalist with high pitched moments so u need a dynamic vocalist... Tim Owens it's just all about high pitched

Completely agree with that. One of several reasons that IE became a legendary band is Barlow's engaging, dynamic, and unique voice. He didn't just scream/sing high like all the other guys out there. He was DIFFERENT and he was good at it. Tim may be good at what he does but it's just the same as everyone else. Bad choice for a replacement IMO.

(And I agree that IE is well classified simply as "US Power Metal" but if you want to get nitty-gritty and specific then they're just a hyrid of power, heavy, thrash and a bit of prog. That's way too complicated tho )

It's always cool find people who share my opinion but one thing.. US power metal? c'mon, first what's the difference btw power metal and us power metal... :S? and second does a double bass drum make a band power metal ?

US power metal combines parts of prog, speed and thrash metal with a traditional heavy metal base. Prominent bands: Helstar, Jag Panzer, Metal Church, Liege Lord, Vicious Rumors, etc.
Old Iced Earth is the same category: US power/thrash (up to Burnt Offerings)

I'm anti pointless-tags anyway I'll check that bands out and try to analize and see if they are that different from the "main styles", in order to don't need to use another tag... =)

with all respect but isn't there a change older guys can be right for just once? Believe me: US power metal is a different style from power metal as you guys know it; Sonata Arctica, Stratovarius, Helloween, etc.... Both genres have a different history and sound different and both are official metal genres. LISTEN TO IT !!!!!!!!!!!

Could u plz give an explanation?why sound different? differences, points etc of us power metal thx

Compare Helstar - Nosferatu and Stratovarius - Fright Night, both from 1989. You'll see. No need of further descriptions. US power metal has other roots than the European (melodic) one and is even by today's standards very different. (I mean some genres transcend into each other, you can find very rarely bandst to play purely x or y genre, and mark, US power metal is a combination already).
If you cannot find Helstar, PM me, and I'll send you an album. Or any band I mentioned above.