If u ask me, this is a perfect album 10 pts

Yeah! jeff is awseome guitar player,this album is all about thrash.

This album is absolutely mindblowing, the only thing that prevents me giving a 10 for this one is the song Kraf Dinner. Don't like it...

^ i remember calling this guy a moron for saying that but now my post is gone.....perhaps i hurt his feelings...

i absolutely love this album...thrash with a little speed. great guitar tone (not too thrashy) and the guys voice is perfectly suited for this style...a little rough sometimes...melodic other times

kickass!

Jeff Waters's best album, no doubt.

Apparently a lot of people liked Alice in Hell better, since it has a higher rating. I disagree; it's good, but not as good as this. The variety and tonal complexity of the rhythm guitar licks and the mind-bending complexity and melodic quality of Jeff Water's solos just completely blew me away. Waters is just an amazing composer as well as guitarist!

Love this album. and Kraf Dinner makes me laugh i don't see why people don't like it

A personal favourite, even if 'Alice in hell' catapulted them straight into thrash metal stardom. The bass here is much more audible than on the debut, though 'Kraf Dinner' is one of the silliest songs ive ever heard.

This is my fave Annihilator album. Melody and thrash have never been fused better than on this album. As for "Kraf Dinner", I love it! It's a fun song, and I love the guitar work in it too.

Written by Angelic Storm on 04.01.2012 at 20:42

Melody and thrash have never been fused better than on this album.

Couldn't agree more. It's done so perfectly that this album really stands out and I have yet to hear Thrash quite like it.

Written by R'Vannith on 05.01.2012 at 02:30
Couldn't agree more. It's done so perfectly that this album really stands out and I have yet to hear Thrash quite like it.

It really is an album that stands totally on it's own soundwise. Even within Annihilator's own discography. It at times, is almost too melodic to be thrash, but yet there is enough aggression and thrash on the album to ensure it remains firmly inside that genre. It is a thrash album, but pushes the boundaries of how melodic that genre can be. And I don't think any other album blurs the lines between melody and thrash quite as much as this one does.

I was absolutely letdown by this compared to the awesome Alice In Hell. Nothing at all memorable about this album except for the silly Kraf Dinner.

Fuckin Awesome Album!!!
I Love Kraf Dinner!!!
Jeff Waters

Bland.

Fantastic thrash! Easily one of the very best.

I also prefer this to Alice In Hell. I like the vocalist a lot more, the songwriting is more stripped down however the performance is hell of a lot more solid (they can keep a constant tempo here for a start...) and it makes it more listenable. Plus to me "The Fun Palace" has to be one of the best songs ever written.

This is their second best album. Their best by far is their debut Alice In Hell. This does have some pretty soolid tracks on it, but not the highs of Alice.

Written by qlacs on 15.09.2017 at 22:17

Plus to me "The Fun Palace" has to be one of the best songs ever written.

The intor + Alison In Hell pisses all ove it event thougn The Fun Palace is an okay to good song.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 15.09.2017 at 22:23

Written by qlacs on 15.09.2017 at 22:17

Plus to me "The Fun Palace" has to be one of the best songs ever written.

The intor + Alison In Hell pisses all ove it event thougn The Fun Palace is an okay to good song.

I totally can relate with you cause there are great melodies in that combo, it's darker (a bit King Diamond-like maybe) but as a songwriter/guitarist myself I prefer the balance of elements, the flow and the solo in The Fun Palace. I don't think there is a contest here, the two songs are very different and I just prefer one over the other

Damn, son. I wasn't expecting Never, Neverland to be this much fun. It seems they fixed all the main issues I had with their debut and added in some new tricks to make it even more enjoyable. Maybe there is still some some stuff worth nitpicking like sometimes cheap-sounding lyrics, but otherwise this is a really good stuff. I wonder what else I have been missing all these years?

If you ask me, the vocals are destryoing the good music.

Songs like Road To Ruin and Kraf Dinner make this a weaker album than Alice In Hell (8.8/10) IMO.

8.2/10 for me - The Fun Palace and the title track are the standout songs.

I can't say that I like this as much as their previous record, nor do I think this is as good as I originally thought it to be. The album itself sounds alright, the vocals are good, the tempo is good, the riffs are ok, and there is some half decent soloing, but their are no individual tracks that really stand out to me, it's a good album but nothing remarkable is what I'm saying.

IMHO this is a band that have never been able to live up to their debut.

Written by AndyMetalFreak on 10.03.2022 at 16:15

IMHO this is a band that have never been able to live up to their debut.

So true. In fact I just realized that Never, Neverland never lived up to the debut, and found this reason enough to post it here.

Written by AndyMetalFreak on 10.03.2022 at 16:15

IMHO this is a band that have never been able to live up to their debut.

Amen.

Written by AndyMetalFreak on 10.03.2022 at 16:15

I can't say that I like this as much as their previous record, nor do I think this is as good as I originally thought it to be. The album itself sounds alright, the vocals are good, the tempo is good, the riffs are ok, and there is some half decent soloing, but their are no individual tracks that really stand out to me, it's a good album but nothing remarkable is what I'm saying.

IMHO this is a band that have never been able to live up to their debut.

I prefer this one to the debut, it's got a better flow, the silly Kraft Dinner is the weak point, but that song it's just that - a silly joke. I can live with that.
Nothing stands out?! Quite surprised to read that. This was for me one of those albums that blew my teenage mind, never got old for me.

For me nothing that came after Never Neverland comes close (in quality of song writing and performance)

Written by JoHn Doe on 22.09.2022 at 11:12


I prefer this one to the debut, it's got a better flow, the silly Kraft Dinner is the weak point, but that song it's just that - a silly joke. I can live with that.
Nothing stands out?! Quite surprised to read that. This was for me one of those album that blew my teenage mind, never got old for me.

For me nothing that came after Never Neverland comes close (in quality of song writing and performance)

A few tracks kind of stood out for me, the title track mainly, and of course the track that most people point out which is "Fun Palace", that's a decent song, but the rest for me is just ok, all except "Kraft Dinner" which I have to agree is not a good one at all. I don't think much to anything they did that followed this.

Written by AndyMetalFreak on 22.09.2022 at 13:55

Written by JoHn Doe on 22.09.2022 at 11:12


I prefer this one to the debut, it's got a better flow, the silly Kraft Dinner is the weak point, but that song it's just that - a silly joke. I can live with that.
Nothing stands out?! Quite surprised to read that. This was for me one of those album that blew my teenage mind, never got old for me.

For me nothing that came after Never Neverland comes close (in quality of song writing and performance)

A few tracks kind of stood out for me, the title track mainly, and of course the track that most people point out which is "Fun Palace", that's a decent song, but the rest for me is just ok, all except "Kraft Dinner" which I have to agree is not a good one at all. I don't think much to anything they did that followed this.

The first half of the album really stands out. More interesting and entertaining than the second half.
Maybe I just love it more because I listened to it when it came out, it was really special for a lot of people.

How in the world is this even marginally weaker than the debut? It completely destroys it