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11.10.2010 - 15:16
Zombie
Thrash'tillDeath
Old thread locked, new thread here.
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11.10.2010 - 15:18
Zombie
Thrash'tillDeath
This is what gives Christianity a bad name, i'm sure that fat bitch is so proud of her self promoting prejudice, brainwashign the kids, and planting the seeds of violence in those kids, the members of the ARMY of god.

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11.10.2010 - 17:00
Ellrohir
Heaven Knight
It sucks, but Muslim world has barely anything to blame on that field...otherwise it looks like Ahmadeenejad talking about human rights
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11.10.2010 - 21:45
Derwood
Written by Ernis on 11.10.2010 at 21:34

I hope it's a fictional thing...


That's from a documentary called Jesus Camp. What's depicted in that film is far scarier than any horror film I've ever seen.

I've nothing against Christianity (or any faith) in general, just the radical fringes. The nutjobs you find there would just find other reasons for perpetuating extremist agendas (nationalism, environmentalism, socialism, etc.) if they didn't have a religion to hang it on. The problem isn't religion, it's people with extremist natures. If we eradicated religion tomorrow, every one of these people would find some other ideology to hinge their fanaticism on.
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12.10.2010 - 03:20
Zombie
Thrash'tillDeath
Yep .. my point exactly from posting the video.. how can those weirdos claim that breaking cups and destroyign stuff in the name of god (being the ARMY of god) while christ said he loved all people equally and promoted forgivness and tolerance. those people are as elitist as *you know who * but label themselves as christians while they're NOT .. you're not a christian by simply being baptized ... you're christian by following the teachings of christ.

PS: to correct a tiny mistake in viggo's words... its not tha mosque with the golden dome they want destructed.. its the mosque right opposite to it ... but the media keeps portraying the golden dome mosque as the important one to muslims so that when the other one is destructed.. no one would suspect a thing.
you're confusing "Al-Aqsa Mosque" with "Dome of the Rock" Mosque. the first one being the targeted mosque.. that is claimed to be built above the ruins of the temple of solomon .. and that has hundreds of 'excavation' tunnels beneath it so that the slightest earthquake in the area would destroy it and 'they' appear like they had nothing to do with it.
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12.10.2010 - 06:42
vezzy
Stallmanite
May I ask as elitist as who?

I've only seen clips and read Jesus Camp's plot, but it is indeed very disturbing.

The good news is Fischer closed that dreaded summer camp after all the negative reactions from people who saw the film (they began vandalizing the camp, etc.) I doubt the kids will change, since their parents are fanatics as well, from what I remember. But hell, if they sent them there in the first place...
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12.10.2010 - 22:17
Ernis
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Written by Zombie on 12.10.2010 at 03:20

you're confusing "Al-Aqsa Mosque" with "Dome of the Rock" Mosque.

Thanks for clearing it for me... the golden cupola mosque is just more prominent... But my bad... I've never visited the town... in fact, I have... but as الطائر ابن لا أحد when I was on my Jerusalem mission and jumped and ran on the roof of that golden dome...
But that doesn't really count...
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12.10.2010 - 23:21
Ellrohir
Heaven Knight
Fanatics are fanatics, are dangerous and must be treated as fanatics with no excuses...even Jehovah Witnesses may be sane, giving their children right to choose their way, but then there are mad basterds, members or various sects, who dont hesitate to let their children die in the name of their stupid faith...no mercy for such "people"

things like Jesus Camp should be criminal acts and responsible persons should be charged and punished...then he world would be better place
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13.10.2010 - 06:58
Guib
Thrash Talker
Wow the video is bad man...

Like the part about Harry Potter and the Warlocks LMAO !
Its so stupid... like comon guys Harry Potter = Fiction... get over it
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13.10.2010 - 11:07
Ellrohir
Heaven Knight
Nope...Harry Potter is a work of devil, who dictated it to Rowling in order to take so many children from the right way... :
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13.10.2010 - 17:40
Ernis
狼獾
Speaking of Potter... Vatican actually gave their "yes-word" to Potter series due to the presence of the good moral bout good being stronger than evil...
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13.10.2010 - 21:55
Ellrohir
Heaven Knight
But one thing is Vatican (where they know the rule "if you cannot beat it, then hop in and join the train" very well) and another are fanatics from sects...
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18.10.2010 - 16:08
treptolemus
aphotic_zoning
About the "camp" pretty sad. Everyone agrees here.

Concerning the vatican and harry potter, i believe that they actually like the magic related stuff. The "hill of the mages" -vaticanus has no problems with potter films!
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19.10.2010 - 21:17
ErnilEnNaur
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Written by Ellrohir on 13.10.2010 at 11:07

Nope...Harry Potter is a work of devil, who dictated it to Rowling in order to take so many children from the right way... :


Well, the last book must have been inspired by the devil, because it was horrible. Then again, maybe it was inspired by George Lucas.
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20.10.2010 - 00:25
Ellrohir
Heaven Knight
I havent read HP books and at first i resisted to all signs of "Potter-mania"...but then they played the first movie in TV and i have realized this is exactly type of "easy" entertainment that fits to me

btw. Devil does only "good" things, because he needs to attract as much followers as possible - like heavy metal
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20.10.2010 - 05:28
Kap'N Korrupt
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Harry Potter books are well written...the prose drags you into it...it was ruined when made into a movie...Christianity only bad mouths the Devil and hell because Christians are jealous of how cool and how much better it all is...
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30.12.2010 - 00:42
Dane Train
Beers & Kilts
Elite
For everyone who is freaking out over the Jesus Camp video, keep in mind that most Christians were horrified when that movie came out. It took me a whole week to make it through that film, it wrecked me pretty hard. These are the sort of things I work so hard to stop from happening.
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30.12.2010 - 07:14
0rpheus
The upside down cross, is it a Christian symbol or a Satanic symbol?!
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30.12.2010 - 17:10
Ernis
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Written by 0rpheus on 30.12.2010 at 07:14

The upside down cross, is it a Christian symbol or a Satanic symbol?!

It's called Peter's cross because St. Peter was crucified head downwards. He asked it for he didn't feel worthy enough to die head upwards...
On the other hand, St. Andreas was crucified on a large X letter, therefore the X-shaped cross is called the Andreas cross...
I think it was discovered by the new satanic vibe and clubs in the 20th century and hence found its way to Hot Topic online stores and now adorns the outfits of Goth chicks.
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31.12.2010 - 14:05
0rpheus
Written by Ernis on 30.12.2010 at 17:10

Written by 0rpheus on 30.12.2010 at 07:14

The upside down cross, is it a Christian symbol or a Satanic symbol?!

It's called Peter's cross because St. Peter was crucified head downwards. He asked it for he didn't feel worthy enough to die head upwards...
On the other hand, St. Andreas was crucified on a large X letter, therefore the X-shaped cross is called the Andreas cross...
I think it was discovered by the new satanic vibe and clubs in the 20th century and hence found its way to Hot Topic online stores and now adorns the outfits of Goth chicks.

Pope John Paul II sits on the altar at Korazim, Israel... some years ago.




I was reading about what you said few weeks ago. It's widely known as an anti-Christ symbol and why the Vatican didn't declare about this issue defending their papacy symbol?!
Interestingly, Jesus referred to Peter as "Satan", when he said to him "Get behind me, Satan!", in Mark 8:33
There's something profound about this matter and likely about the whole Christianity!
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01.01.2011 - 19:51
Zombie
Thrash'tillDeath
Viggo, i just noticed something on the pope's hat --->



now, in addition to that inverted cross thing you guys mentioned earlier, does that mean that the vatican has been infiltrated too?
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01.01.2011 - 20:57
Ernis
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Written by Zombie on 01.01.2011 at 19:51

does that mean that the vatican has been infiltrated too?

Of course... haven't even said this before? Church has after all been a secular institution for a long time already. It was known that in France before the Revolution the high-category holy men had the right to eff any woman and I believe quite a number of ladies were willing to become their mistresses because these men were effing rich and politically powerful as hell...

People rarely think of the poor simple priests who were actually Christian and who were later brutally killed by the bringers of "freedom" as revenge for the "corruption of the church"...
Or the nuns who were raped and hacked to pieces when "freedom" came...
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17.01.2011 - 03:01
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
True story .... about woman what I know(know name, and her past, nothing more)

Because, leithly Im thinking, christianity, christians many fake ppl there, therer some shit what I need to find asnvers digging in my past and knowing why x think hepened and why non didnt stop ehh long story, but point is here many fake ppl who go to church, but same time are much evil sinners when go beck in litle fake lifes

Well she was a family ''friend'' beck at 1990 .....
She was christian, write soem artricles, read a religiuse and pfilospoical articles , but same time she need a man whos rich, other who's intelectual, other who's good in bad, next one who's rich, other whi has acar and who likes work in garden, other who dont like sex at all...no not one who has those thinks, but diferent man...finaly she choose richest one to can live lika queen, wellshe has 2 kids and one wasfrom an alcoholic(there is rumor she make a hole in condom to get child) and child be reason to merry guy (she make a whole in his condom to lil make it his) ... dont remeber details I was to young

They devorced, she came beck in area, but still she complains she's christian, but same time dont go to church any more and drinks to much and (its a rumor) but acts like a whore, ''c mon fuck me if you'e good I dont ask money'' , but its rumor

There is many many such ppl outsdie

Quasten is.... saying she's christian, she more liek defender of it and complains she live and follow bibel and has no sin ....

....quasten is to you, is she a chrsitain, does she acts like a chrsitian, if she be a atheistI wont complain, generaly I dont, but I and some no metter what was argue about it, some ppl say(what i know Im beliover, Im true chrsitian you all are sinners, but same time drinks, acts liek idiot, say other are idiots, beat up her sister, wants get her money since sh'e rich , he lost his part of big pie in casino, buts ame time complains he's true believer)...guy piss me of, so do you think they are christians, do they belong to church?"
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17.01.2011 - 03:39
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17.01.2011 - 21:42
Ernis
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Written by Bad English on 17.01.2011 at 03:01

so do you think they are christians, do they belong to church?"

Being a Christian is not bout being subscribed to something or belonging to a club or following some rules "when to sacrifice a lamb/when to sacrifice a cow/when to clean yer house etc..."

It's bout remembering Christ and what He said and wished people would be like... it's about remembering that people are weak and easily affected and controlled by evil. People are prone to act like super cunts and hurt others. He was nailed to a cross to show how eventually being good and virtuous and loving will show real strength and will take one closer to God than being a hateful bitchy violent aggressive greedy selfish super cunt...

so anyone can choose between "I think people should love each other and forgive each other and be friends." and "That dude annoys me. I hate him and wish to crush his skull with a sledgehammer."
The choice is free for everyone...

If a person is a super cunt and treats other people badly then this person is not exactly what one would call Christian...
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18.01.2011 - 15:17
Zenzero
Zenzero
You all talk about christianity and church, but you're not italian and you can't know that here the church talks about politic things all the days! this is not the aim of them!
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18.01.2011 - 18:46
Angelic Storm
Melodious
Written by Ernis on 17.01.2011 at 21:42
If a person is a super cunt and treats other people badly then this person is not exactly what one would call Christian...


There are a lot of people who call themselves "christians" who behave in ways that are very un-christian if you ask me.... lol

I believe that if only people who followed Christ's example could be called christian, more than half the christians in the world wouldnt be classed as that. Many people are "born" into a religion, and are basically labelled "christian", "muslim" or whatever purely because they were born into religious families.
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18.01.2011 - 20:36
Ernis
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Written by Angelic Storm on 18.01.2011 at 18:46

There are a lot of people who call themselves "christians" who behave in ways that are very un-christian if you ask me.... lol

The godfather of my bro's sister is a priest and in a sermon he said that some religious people have an occupational disease... that disease is being arrogant and nosy because "I'm Christian! I am so much better than others! I can do anything!". That is a bad sign because it shows that the person labels himself under some group in order to boost his ego and give him the excuse to treat other people badly... And that's a step closer towards religious nazism... because of that Christ was nailed to the cross because He pointed out how wrong it is... And I bet if Christ appeared in the world today, many "Christians" would be the first ones to slaughter Him in a brutal way...

Written by Zenzero on 18.01.2011 at 15:17

You all talk about christianity and church, but you're not italian and you can't know that here the church talks about politic things all the days! this is not the aim of them!

I know how things are in Italy. Church and politics are a bad combo... Politics is usually a dark and nasty field filled with lots of dirty secrets and church shouldn't be corrupted by it... One of the benefits of Eastern Church, for instance, is the fact that it was a lot less influenced and tied with politics than the Western Church which has been in the centre of it along with political and ideological nasty "culture clubs" for a long time... Even here I usually avoid going to the main church because I know it has dubious ties with some "political" entities plus I know there's quite a lot of "professional religious" people there who go to church for showing off... the two more independent monastery chapels here offer much more cosy and friendly atmosphere than the bigger church...

Plus I guess you've heard the rumour that "Devil has lurked into the Catholic Church."
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18.01.2011 - 22:03
Zenzero
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Plus I guess you've heard the rumour that "Devil has lurked into the Catholic Church."

I don't! What is it?
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18.01.2011 - 22:21
Ernis
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Written by Zenzero on 18.01.2011 at 22:03


Plus I guess you've heard the rumour that "Devil has lurked into the Catholic Church."

I don't! What is it?

Well it sort of explains the anti-christian things the church has done and because of which people now all point at Christians and say "Christianity is a lousy religion because the church has done so many bad things..."
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