Russia's invasion of Ukraine

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Posted by corrupt, 24.02.2022 - 12:18
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Written by Magnum.Heathen on 01.06.2023 at 23:37

It appears to be one colossal cover up for money laundering, at least that how it seems to me

How do you think Russia is laundering money through this?
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Written by RaduP on 02.06.2023 at 19:22

Written by Magnum.Heathen on 01.06.2023 at 23:37

It appears to be one colossal cover up for money laundering, at least that how it seems to me

How do you think Russia is laundering money through this?

Same way as corona was fake...
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12.07.2023 - 14:39
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This looks certainly the end for me.
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Written by Cynic Metalhead on 12.07.2023 at 14:39
This looks certainly the end for me.

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I just saw news Medvedev announce that if Ukraine starts break through then Russia will use nuclear. Lol, it seems the game now has turning to be more forceful, both for 2 country. Ukraine got threatened, if Russia use nuclear, how the fuk they can survive or doing anything more or different. Good game. I still think long term fighting, Ukraine will be more advantageous.
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I wish for an end of this menacing war we witnessing on our phones. This has been prolonged even though at one point Ukraine and Russia came to a mutual agreement to desist and de-escalation. Well, we knew who reached out to Zelensky and turned the tables overnight.
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Written by [user id=172292] on 31.07.2023 at 16:57

I just saw news Medvedev announce that if Ukraine starts break through then Russia will use nuclear. Lol, it seems the game now has turning to be more forceful, both for 2 country. Ukraine got threatened, if Russia use nuclear, how the fuk they can survive or doing anything more or different. Good game. I still think long term fighting, Ukraine will be more advantageous.

Russians threaten whit nukes NATOand EU like since they start support Ukraine 2 years ago whit SAM, Stynger, then new wave came when west game patriot and long distance missiles , HIMARS, Exiliburum. Then Panzers, next step be treath when Ukraine gets F16.
Russia wont use nukes, they are not so stupid, even few of them are , but use a nukes should chain work, few should trick to the bottom.
If they de 99% NATO will answer to attack Russian fleet in Black sea and forces in Ukraine, and its 2 days when basically overifierad army of mighty Russian force be dead. How good goes for them there whit ''modern'' super weapons.
I see 2 ways if Russia use nukes, one is as answer to Nuclear attack, other if Moscow will fall in convercial warfare and basically one Army and country can do it, but they more like play ball whit small island in a Pacific.
Sorry but who wants ocupy Russia? What good it can give, suck you dry and emthy.
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I believe 51%, they russia surely use nukes on Ukraine troops. Because if they say only nuke Ukraine,; the West and USA wont be harm, then big trouble for Ukraine. Its pain cuz Russian wont leave those lands they invade, but Ukraine could not give up their ancestral lands. I do believe russsia will use nukes cuz if Ukraine win directly, then Russia has no choice. Its tight but I believe underdog Ukraine will win even 20 years like vietnam.

Saying abour occupying Russia. Who doesnt want ?, long ago Mongol did. Hail.yellow eastern asia.
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Written by [user id=172292] on 05.08.2023 at 18:22

I believe 51%, they russia surely use nukes on Ukraine troops. Because if they say only nuke Ukraine,; the West and USA wont be harm, then big trouble for Ukraine. Its pain cuz Russian wont leave those lands they invade, but Ukraine could not give up their ancestral lands. I do believe russsia will use nukes cuz if Ukraine win directly, then Russia has no choice. Its tight but I believe underdog Ukraine will win even 20 years like vietnam.

Saying abour occupying Russia. Who doesnt want ?, long ago Mongol did. Hail.yellow eastern asia.

Polution will derstroy Europe, inflation to. Poor countries in Africa will die from starvation. It will be catastrophe more as you can swallow. Acts like that can inspired other assholes as Kim da faq his name is act to, Iran is not friendly to. Answer will follow from USA.

Well Russia has not changed much from Mongol days, to invest and fix country needs more as re build Ukraine after war
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Written by [user id=172292] on 05.08.2023 at 18:22

I believe 51%, they russia surely use nukes on Ukraine troops.

Nah, too close to the border, the nuclear waste would only harm Russians and their allies. If Russia ever went to war with EU and NATO they would surely nuke Brussels back to the stone age at the very beginning, since some dumbass thought it would be such a brilliant idea to put both EU parliament and NATO headquarters in the same city.
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Written by Metal Fromage on 06.08.2023 at 18:32

Written by [user id=172292] on 05.08.2023 at 18:22

I believe 51%, they russia surely use nukes on Ukraine troops.

Nah, too close to the border, the nuclear waste would only harm Russians and their allies. If Russia ever went to war with EU and NATO they would surely nuke Brussels back to the stone age at the very beginning, since some dumbass thought it would be such a brilliant idea to put both EU parliament and NATO headquarters in the same city.

Nya but Russia don't want nuclear war, even there few politicians in Russia are stupidest people ever lived, but many Russians are not so dumb. I believe Perun will send wind that blows back to Russia. Russians will slow war and freeze conflict and hope west is tired. But west will find more ways be independent and Russia will party whit most poorest African countries, iran and some Latin American political closes and on the end China will send bug bill to Russia for party. Russia has lost no matter what they do. Even end of war now,, can take 20 years to Russia be back on reality when people want do business there.
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Written by Bad English on 07.08.2023 at 11:51

Written by Metal Fromage on 06.08.2023 at 18:32

Written by [user id=172292] on 05.08.2023 at 18:22

I believe 51%, they russia surely use nukes on Ukraine troops.

Nah, too close to the border, the nuclear waste would only harm Russians and their allies. If Russia ever went to war with EU and NATO they would surely nuke Brussels back to the stone age at the very beginning, since some dumbass thought it would be such a brilliant idea to put both EU parliament and NATO headquarters in the same city.

Russians will slow war and freeze conflict and hope west is tired. But west will find more ways be independent and Russia will party whit most poorest African countries, iran and some Latin American political closes and on the end China will send bug bill to Russia for party. Russia has lost no matter what they do. Even end of war now,, can take 20 years to Russia be back on reality when people want do business there.

With China's military budget of 225 billion against 80 billion of Russia's infantry, you can't expect Russia to be a party host for China. I do agree that war in Ukraine has decimated economically culturally and slashed 10-12 yrs of GDP without any question. It's going to get perilous in resetting up the economy, business, banks, real estate to project numbers once Ukraine thrives on against Russia who have great significant recovery plans to save the market, but you can't evade the economic loss Russia suffered in digits that most countries can't afford to have it on.
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I no know much of economy affect. But I do believe the case of Afghanistan n vietnam. Both win over USA and Soviet with more than 20 years patience. That is lesson for Ukraine. They wont surrender whatever economy or wealth. They must fight cuz all.occupied by russia belongs to their ancestor.
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03.06.2025 - 14:39
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450 Russian bombers destroyed. Now Baltics, Poland, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Romania can feel safer
What a awesome news. Russian military prestige and capability are crushed and makes it weaker. What a awesome sabotage act . Really if Ukraine does more such things big things in deep of enemy lines in far east airbases. Maybe countries as Iran, India, China , NK and Pakistan can look at it . Really good news.

Rumors Bridge to Crimea blown to peaces. It means Russian troops has no supplies , imagine 100 himars missiles same time be launched to Russian troops in Crimea. would be cool
Now supplies they need use unstable land line or sea to transport it. Air well if its true it makes Crimean defense much harder


More news like this
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/30/serbia-probes-arms-to-ukraine-after-russia-alleges-stab-in-the-back

I hope its true, even I am aganst Serbia in EU. we have Slovakia, Hungary can not be good, but I hope its true . As far Serbia has no sea border , basically they are isolated. I think they should re open eyes and maybe chose smart what to support.
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Written by Bad English on 03.06.2025 at 14:39

450 Russian bombers destroyed. Now Baltics, Poland, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Romania can feel safer
What a awesome news. Russian military prestige and capability are crushed and makes it weaker. What a awesome sabotage act.

How did you come up with that absolutely ridiculous number? The Ukrainians have maybe destroyed around 40 Russian bombers, maybe even 45 at the very most, but definitely not ten times that amount. That’s just nonsense.

That said, I do agree with you on the main point: this is very good news.
Even the pacifist in me is pleased that the SBU managed to carry out such a meticulously and long-term planned operation with surgical precision. Sabotaging a violator of international law is one thing, but hitting the unjust aggressor Putin where it hurts the most (deep within his own country, in full view of the rest of the world, and in a place where the Russian military dominance could actually be significantly weakened) is a whole new level of sabotage.
What impressed me most was that this operation was carried out entirely without any human casualties. That was simply brilliant.

Written by Bad English on 03.06.2025 at 14:39

Really if Ukraine does more such things big things in deep of enemy lines in far east airbases. Maybe countries as Iran, India, China , NK and Pakistan can look at it.

I see this point totally differently, though.
Just a few hours after the operation, the Ukrainians revealed details about how the drones had been trained using AI to identify their targets. Not just the aircraft types most critical for maintaining air superiority, but also the most vulnerable part of the wing root, located above the fuel tanks. Additionally, Ukraine released fairly detailed photo material of the interior construction of the trucks, including their hidden cargo inside a double roof, and information has emerged about how the remote activation of the drones was controlled.
If you ask me, these are precisely the kinds of details that should not be used as training material on terrorism and warfare in countries like Iran or North Korea.

There may be reasons beyond my understanding why Ukrainian officials chose to so quickly and publicly share so much information about a highly classified special operation, but at first glance, it doesn’t seem like a particularly smart decision.
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I mean 40 ,make mistake
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Written by Bad English on 04.06.2025 at 19:56

I mean 40 ,make mistake

Sometimes I wonder how many "make mistake"s are there on your Metal Storm news channel. How about going for some more quality than quantity?
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Written by Starvynth on 04.06.2025 at 19:46

I am pacifist my self and every Russian plain lost, battle ship, military industry, panzers, long range missile launchers ,pilot, military instructor, officer , speznaz solders lost is good. Rebuild it might not be possible , besides some SU bombers they dont produce. It makes us safer , much safer. I wish west would let use long range missiles to launch when those planes was based close to Ukraine.
Its like pager (seems people still use them) operation.
I agree about sharing news, but Ukraine and Russia has long border. So far Ukraine shared things and SBU share things what they want we know about all.
In Falkland war UK govement wanted send SAS, SBS to deep Argentina to sabotage they airplanes and ships, but that suicide mission was canceled due high risk.
Ukraine did it well.
To me most interesting was known how they manage bomb that bridge , because sending divers was high risk operation.
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