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12.04.2012 - 18:14Rating: 7
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Nice review
I still prefer MV II though
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I'm afraid this album isn't ahead of its time though. It's pretty much straight up keyboard laden black metal. Nothing new, nothing original. Well done yes but I find the rating WAY too high. Probably a 7.5 from me.
Besides, I prefer BaN'a approach on their demos when they were called Vlad:
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12.04.2012 - 18:25Rating: 10
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Written by InnerSelf on 12.04.2012 at 18:14
Nice review
I still prefer MV II though
Haven't listened to that one in it's entirety yet. Thanks for reading.
Written by [user id=4365] on 12.04.2012 at 18:21
I'm afraid this album isn't ahead of its time though. It's pretty much straight up keyboard laden black metal. Nothing new, nothing original. Well done yes but I find the rating WAY too high.
Besides, I prefer BaN'a approach on their demos when they were called Vlad:
Memoria Vetusta I to me is like The Work Which Transforms God for you.
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Good stuff. This is possibly my favorite BM album ever.
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Very well-written review. I'd score it closer to a 9.3 or so but you did an excellent job backing up your argument. The last two sentences are kind of cheesy though... especially considering you think people who haven't heard this should be hanged, meanwhile you haven't even listened to the sequel.
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I like your review a lot, even though I disagree with the rating, which is immaterial, because we all have our own ratings 
But!
Quote: And since this is black metal then I think the bass issues can be forgiven.
I completely disagree with this one. I like bass in black metal.
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Written by Daniell on 12.04.2012 at 22:07 I completely disagree with this one. I like bass in black metal.
I have a love/hate relationship with black metal bass. Sometimes I'm mesmerized by it, sometimes I want the band to re-record the entire album and leave it out.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 12.04.2012 at 22:16
I have a love/hate relationship with black metal bass. Sometimes I'm mesmerized by it, sometimes I want the band to re-record the entire album and leave it out.
I like the fat bass that can be heard while listening to Watain, Byfrost, or Krypteia. But I do like almost bassless Emperor too. So yes, it's a love/hate relationship for me as well.
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13.04.2012 - 01:10Rating: 10
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Written by The Turbanator on 12.04.2012 at 18:26
Good stuff. This is possibly my favorite BM album ever.
It is mine too. 
Thanks for reading.
Written by Troy Killjoy on 12.04.2012 at 19:33
Very well-written review. I'd score it closer to a 9.3 or so but you did an excellent job backing up your argument. The last two sentences are kind of cheesy though... especially considering you think people who haven't heard this should be hanged, meanwhile you haven't even listened to the sequel.
First of all, thanks for reading. Secondly, I'd like to say that I admire the way you always expose stupidity in others' posts and reviews
Written by Daniell on 12.04.2012 at 22:07
I like your review a lot, even though I disagree with the rating, which is immaterial, because we all have our own ratings 
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Quote: And since this is black metal then I think the bass issues can be forgiven.
I completely disagree with this one. I like bass in black metal.
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate this.
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 12.04.2012 at 22:16
I have a love/hate relationship with black metal bass. Sometimes I'm mesmerized by it, sometimes I want the band to re-record the entire album and leave it out.
I like the fat bass that can be heard while listening to Watain, Byfrost, or Krypteia. But I do like almost bassless Emperor too. So yes, it's a love/hate relationship for me as well.
Bassless black metal is fine?? I think that I can have a lo-fi EP released by the end of summer (If I find an alternative for those crappy guitar pro drums...  )
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Written by Oaken on 13.04.2012 at 01:10 First of all, thanks for reading. Secondly, I'd like to say that I admire the way you always expose stupidity in others' posts and reviews...
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Bassless black metal is fine??
It was actually my pleasure to read. I thought it was going to be hardcore fanboyism from the get-go as a result of the score but you did a great job in terms of objectivity. Also, that exposing bit is a bit of a special online talent. Totally useless in real life.
As for black metal without bass... it's definitely fine. A large quantity of the black metal I've been listening to recently has been bass-free.
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13.04.2012 - 01:44Rating: 10
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 13.04.2012 at 01:31
Written by Oaken on 13.04.2012 at 01:10 First of all, thanks for reading. Secondly, I'd like to say that I admire the way you always expose stupidity in others' posts and reviews...
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Bassless black metal is fine??
It was actually my pleasure to read. I thought it was going to be hardcore fanboyism from the get-go as a result of the score but you did a great job in terms of objectivity. Also, that exposing bit is a bit of a special online talent. Totally useless in real life.
As for black metal without bass... it's definitely fine. A large quantity of the black metal I've been listening to recently has been bass-free. 
Well, thanks a lot. I'm very glad with the positive feedback, and my ability to contribute to the site. At least I feel useful, and this makes up for the stupidity I've filled the site with last summer. I've also reviewed Ygg recently, and I think they'll be proofread soon.
And as for the exposing bit: it's very witty and Socratic at moments.
And, by the end of summer, if the situation improves here, I'll try to have a 20-25 bassless black metal EP under the name Oaken Bough.
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04.07.2012 - 12:08Rating: 8
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Written by Oaken on 12.04.2012 at 18:25
Memoria Vetusta I to me is like The Work Which Transforms God for you. 
The difference being that one is original the other isn't. This isn't up for debate tbh since there's nothing new about this album when it was released, many others did it maybe not in the same quality but that doesn't affect the fact that there's nothing new going on. It was damn good BM indeed, don't think I say this album is bad... but original? You have to be hella new to BM to think that this is original, specially for 1996. Everything from the other ratings and the review itself it's fine... it's just that 9 for originality that makes me laugh a little bit since you don't back up that idea that this album is somehow ahead of its time.
7 on originality at best.
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28.02.2014 - 11:34Rating: 10
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Quote: The difference being that one is original the other isn't. This isn't up for debate tbh since there's nothing new about this album when it was released, many others did it maybe not in the same quality but that doesn't affect the fact that there's nothing new going on. It was damn good BM indeed, don't think I say this album is bad... but original? You have to be hella new to BM to think that this is original, specially for 1996. Everything from the other ratings and the review itself it's fine... it's just that 9 for originality that makes me laugh a little bit since you don't back up that idea that this album is somehow ahead of its time.
7 on originality at best.
can you tell some similar albums because i just love this album and the songwriting is one of the best ive ever found..for me it was pretty original.but if you have some similar albums in mind please tell observing you must be an elite in black metal to make the originality quote..
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