Paradise Lost - Icon


8.7 | 563 votes |
Release date: September 1993
Style: Gothic metal, Death doom metal

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01. Embers Fire
02. Rememberance
03. Forging Sympathy
04. Joys Of The Emptiness
05. Dying Freedom
06. Widow
07. Colossal Rains
08. Weeping Words
09. Poison
10. True Belief
11. Shallow Seasons
12. Christendom
13. Deus Misereatur

Top 20 albums of 1993: 6

Line-up
Nick Holmes - vocals
Gregor Mackintosh - lead guitars
Aaron Aedy - rhythm and acoustic guitars
Stephen Edmondson - bass
Matthew Archer - drums

Session musicians
Andrew Holdsworth - keyboards
Denise Bernard - vocals

Additional info
Label: Music for Nations

Produced and engineered by Simon Efemey.
Mixed by Simon Efemey and Pete "Pee Wee" Coleman.
Mix engineer: Pete "Pee Wee" Coleman.
Assisted by: Andrew Holsworth.
Assistants: Paul Nixon, Sally Butler.

Recorded at Jacobs Studios, Surrey in June/July 1993.
Mastered by Geoff Pesche at Townhouse Studios.

Design and art direction by Stylorouge.
All photography by Matt Anker.

Guest review by
Deadmeat
Rating:
9.8
Paradise Lost are called the "Fathers of Gothic" and they deserve this title if you look in retrospect at the influence they had on Gothic Metal. Today's Gothic metal scene owes a lot to this band. The fourth album of Paradise Lost, "Icon", may be the best Gothic album a band has ever created. With influences from Death and Doom metal, which increases the pessimism and vanity of the songs, "Icon" is an artistic diamond!

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published 30.04.2009 | Comments (14)

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30.05.2012 - 18:34
Cuca Beludo
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Excellent album. It grab my attention from the first to the last song, also Embers Fire is surely the best PL song
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05.09.2012 - 17:04
Rating: 10
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Masterchief
Just lusten this, now I know for shore my fav PL album I like this melody guitar rifs, death/doom sound + his way of clean vox, you can understand more what he sings ,
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02.10.2012 - 14:46
Rating: 10
Dead Eternity
I love this album!
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21.12.2012 - 18:55
Rating: 8
NocturnalStalker
Metal Addict
It seems to be a transition album for Paradise Lost - I mean the transition from their early death/doom sound to their gothic metal style they incorporated on Draconian Times which is evidently present on this record too.
It's a pretty good album but , despite listening to it lots and lots of times, the only songs that left a trace in my memory are Embers Fire and the brilliant True Belief.
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02.06.2013 - 14:57
Rating: 10
HellriderRising
One of the best of all time.
A true diamond for 90s.
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23.07.2013 - 23:05
Rating: 9
NorthernDickhead
I didn't found anything about Death metal on this album,more like heavy rock and Doom/Gothic metal. Still great disc! My fav song,Embrese fire. Maybe the best Paradise Lost song ever.
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23.07.2013 - 23:45
Angelic Storm
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Written by NorthernDickhead on 23.07.2013 at 23:05

I didn't found anything about Death metal on this album,more like heavy rock and Doom/Gothic metal. Still great disc! My fav song,Embrese fire. Maybe the best Paradise Lost song ever.


The only Paradise Lost album I'd categorize as death metal, is their debut... and even that is more of a hybrid of sorts, than a "straight" death metal album. Everything from "Shades Of God" onwards I wouldn't really class as death metal.

"Icon" is a classic album, as all of PL's first 5 albums are.
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14.10.2013 - 19:12
Rating: 7
Erik M.
Wow, like Draconian Times this album is also so overrated it's ridiculous. First 3 albums blow this one (and Draconian Times) away easily.
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14.10.2013 - 22:13
Mr. Doctor
Skandino
Written by Erik M. on 14.10.2013 at 19:12

Wow, like Draconian Times this album is also so overrated it's ridiculous. First 3 albums blow this one (and Draconian Times) away easily.


Nah. Draconian Times and this one own the hugely overrated Gothic, they are also just as good as Shades of God.
Only their debut is superior to everything else.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29
Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
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14.10.2013 - 23:03
Rating: 7
Erik M.
Written by Mr. Doctor on 14.10.2013 at 22:13

Nah. Draconian Times and this one own the hugely overrated Gothic, they are also just as good as Shades of God.
Only their debut is superior to everything else.


Well, tastes simply differ a lot it seems. For me Shades of God is easily the peak of PL's career (even though I haven't heard a lot of their albums).

The underrated albums are: Lost Paradise and Shades of God.
The overrated albums are: Gothic (slightly), Draconian Times and Icon (both immensely).

At least that how I think of the albums. None of them is bad of course. Gothic and Lost Paradise are equally good for me, while I slightly prefer Gothic (it's more mature than the in my opinion immature LP). After those come Draconian Times and Icon, the two way lighter and almost poppy albums (compared to the first 3 that is).
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14.10.2013 - 23:17
Mr. Doctor
Skandino
Slightly? You are tripping man.... Gothic is hugely overrated everywhere I look. At least as much as the albums you claim to be overrated. You clearly missed all those people praising that album to high heavens and giving it more credit than it really deserves history-wise.

It's like... I love Blackwater Park but I at least admit it's an overrated album where the fandom gets a bit insane.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29
Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
Rod, let me love you.
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14.10.2013 - 23:22
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Mr. Doctor on 14.10.2013 at 23:17

Slightly? You are tripping man.... Gothic is hugely overrated everywhere I look. At least as much as the albums you claim to be overrated. You clearly missed all those people praising that album to high heavens and giving it more credit than it really deserves history-wise.

It's like... I love Blackwater Park but I at least admit it's an overrated album where the fandom gets a bit insane.


Besides Gothic Shades Of God is also highly praised, way too much imo, and Icon is generally looked down upon so that one is underrated and not Shades Of God.

Lost Paradise is their most underrated one. Then Icon, Darconian Times gets the praise it deserves. Shades Of God is slightly overrated and Gothic immensely overrated,
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14.10.2013 - 23:24
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Mr. Doctor on 14.10.2013 at 23:17

giving it more credit than it really deserves history-wise.



history-wise it deserves a lot of credit because it was an immensely important album. Musically it doesn't deserve all the praise and credit. You can compare it in that way to Venom, Bathory, Hellhammer
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14.10.2013 - 23:33
Mr. Doctor
Skandino
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.10.2013 at 23:24
history-wise it deserves a lot of credit because it was an immensely important album. Musically it doesn't deserve all the praise and credit. You can compare it in that way to Venom, Bathory, Hellhammer

Hmmmm... I see.
I remember I listened to this album when I was 14-15 and today I still think soemthing bothers me. I don't know if it was a part of the production, the vocals, the keys, or just the overall songwriting.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29
Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
Rod, let me love you.
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14.10.2013 - 23:40
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Mr. Doctor on 14.10.2013 at 23:33

I don't know if it was a part of the production, the vocals, the keys, or just the overall songwriting.



for me it's the combination of all. Somehow it just doesn't add up too well. I would call the music on Gothic a lot more immature than on Lost Paradise
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14.10.2013 - 23:52
Mr. Doctor
Skandino
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.10.2013 at 23:40
I would call the music on Gothic a lot more immature than on Lost Paradise

Agreed, everything was in the right place on the debut.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29
Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49
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13.03.2014 - 04:21
Rulatore
I'm not familiar with this band, this is just good, I think.

Also, I don't know if only this album, but the vocalist sounds a lot like James Hetfield (at least to me).
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08.03.2015 - 00:35
Rating: 5
Reaper_Redeamer
Considering this one of their best and admitting the quality of this album, I never liked it. Except "Embers Fire" and " Weeping Words", the rest is terrible for my taste. I like doom/gothic and I like their previous releases, but I will never enjoy this...
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26.07.2015 - 20:04
Rating: 10
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Masterchief
It does not sound as James ... wtf
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26.07.2015 - 20:07
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Written by Bad English on 26.07.2015 at 20:04

It does not sound as James ... wtf



It DOES sound as if James hetfield is singing here.
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26.07.2015 - 20:11
Rating: 10
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Masterchief
It doesn't , just tried . not to me
maybe give me specific songs? 1,2,3 don't
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26.07.2015 - 20:14
Marcel Hubregtse
Grumpy Old Fuck
Nick sounds quite a bit like James on ALL the songs of Icon and also Draconian Times, btw.
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26.07.2015 - 20:52
Rating: 10
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Masterchief
Draconian it was a while, but seems its right I remember Richard mentioned it on SB... damn where is he, ms needs him , I hope he still is metalhead
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27.03.2017 - 00:50
Rating: 9
anathema_1977
Best PL album for me. It features all the band's best songs: True belief, ember's fire, joys of emptiness. Remembrance stands out, too. That said unfortunately I can also find several tracks here I find rather boring (dying freedom, colossal rains, poison, shallow season, Christendom). A hair cut by 2-3 songs might have helped here. 8.7 over all.
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