03:19 - huascaman Graveworm is one of the better bands out there, IMO. I think As Angels and Collateral Defect are their best albums.
02:55 - BoxCar Willy Everyone should listen to Six Brew Bantha.
02:41 - EMols86 Of course, Graveworm is a great band. Check out As Angels Reach the Beauty, if you haven't done so already. Nice piece of symphonic black metal, that one. :-)
02:23 - LICH anybody else into graveworm ? fucking love a bit of graveworm
01. The Lighthouse 02. Dancing With Lucifer 03. Cassandra's Mirror 04. On The Road To Babylon 05. Paper Princess 06. The Spider 07. The Wolves 08. Venom And Frustration 09. Lonely Roads 10. The Foreseer 11. Cathedral Of The Damned
Could be the letdown of the year. I see what they tried to do here, but they failed for me. THey try not to sound cheesy, so they use complicated classical melodies, which could sound great in a pure oper, but here it sounds out of place. What they managed to do right is sounding BIG. You canąt take this from Whyzdom.
Maybe it will grow on me, but on first impression it is weaker than debut.
I've never heard anything from this band before so I can't be disappointed. Not sure if some of you other posters are or not.
As a Whyzdom newbie I am pleasantly surprised! I expected something slightly different, maybe more symphonic and with harder vocal, but this is a pretty solid album! The vocals are mixed a bit far forward for my taste and she is lacking some unique character but overall I'm digging this. Musically, it's straightforward in a really positive way. Win.
I'm a big fan of French female vocalist accents, so no problem for me on that aspect. It's characteristically Whyzdom, but bigger sounding than before. So far a really good release to me
The more I listen to it the more I like it. I was a massive fan boy of the first album I admit, but this is of an equal standard. The new singer is as good as the first one, the guitars are fantastic, probably better than before. It seems very slightly heavier than before, something I wish all bands in this genre would take notice of.
I can't understand how people who liked the first album didn't like this one, they are not that dissimilar.
The single Cassandra's Mirror is the best song they have ever done. It has that brilliant head banging moment part way through. In my top two albums of the year.
I didn't find the first album that good, so I'm not a fanboy. I like the progressive aspect of things here, and as The Shape 1973 mentioned, it does seem to be heavier, which is usually a good thing
Thanks for all your comments ! It's good to see that some of you liked 'Blind?' a lot, and that, well, some of you found it 'intriguing', right ? Since I'm always happy to chat about music - especially Whyzdom's music, I thought I could try to give some insights here...
@annodomini wrote : "THey try not to sound cheesy, so they use complicated classical melodies, which could sound great in a pure oper, but here it sounds out of place."
Vynce : Well, I understand what you feel. Whyzdom music is definitely a bit complicated - though we do not do this *on purpose*. That's the way we feel music, that's the way we express our emotion. Compare with other symphonic metal bands, and I'm pretty sure that you'll agree that we do not sound like the others - Think for example of the use of contemporary harmonies, violent romantic piano, modern orchestral articulations, etc... And that's a part of our identity. When music is too simple, I personally just feel bored. In Blind?, I know that it takes some time to find your way through the album - but I think it's worth the effort.
@sonatoarctico : "poor sound, boring melodies, anonimous singer"
Vynce : I really don't think that "boring" is very well describing melodies from 'Blind?'. I understand that when it's too complicated, it can become boring. But actually, I just think you ought to give the album some more time. Melody is one of the best aspects of Whyzdom, coupled with often changing harmonies.
@R'Vanith wrote : "The music is considerably more interesting than I expected. "
Vynce : Thanks !
@Susan : "As a Whyzdom newbie I am pleasantly surprised! I expected something slightly different, maybe more symphonic and with harder vocal, but this is a pretty solid album! "
Vynce : I'm glad that we surprised you in a good way. I'm interested in knowing what you mean by "more symphonic" ? I think it is veeeery symphonic. Symphonic orchestra is used throughout the whole album. Not only strings by a synth, but complete orchestral parts, with brass, winds, strings, percussions, etc. In songs like "On The Road To Babylon, Dancing With Lucifer or Cathedral Of The Damned" I think that orchestration is very present and powerful, don't you think ?
@dismaleuphony wrote : "I'm a big fan of French female vocalist accents, so no problem for me on that aspect. It's characteristically Whyzdom, but bigger sounding than before. So far a really good release to me"
Vynce : Thanks a lot !
The Shape 1973 wrote : "The more I listen to it the more I like it. I was a massive fan boy of the first album I admit, but this is of an equal standard. [...] I can't understand how people who liked the first album didn't like this one, they are not that dissimilar."
Vynce : Thanks again . I think that 'Blind?' is slightly more ambitious than its predecessor... that might be the reason.
Ag Fox wrote : "I didn't find the first album that good, so I'm not a fanboy. I like the progressive aspect of things here, and as The Shape 1973 mentioned, it does seem to be heavier, which is usually a good thing"
Vynce : Yes, it's more progressive and it's heavier - with more guitar solos, by the way . You know, many bands try to make their new albums "poppier" to get more success. We just went the other way - lol... because that's how we like it. For the third album, the probability is high that we'll continue in that direction
Thanks a lot again for all your comments ! It's always a pleasure to chat about 'Blind?' !
Ag Fox wrote : "I didn't find the first album that good, so I'm not a fanboy. I like the progressive aspect of things here, and as The Shape 1973 mentioned, it does seem to be heavier, which is usually a good thing"
Vynce : Yes, it's more progressive and it's heavier - with more guitar solos, by the way . You know, many bands try to make their new albums "poppier" to get more success. We just went the other way - lol... because that's how we like it. For the third album, the probability is high that we'll continue in that direction
Thanks a lot again for all your comments ! It's always a pleasure to chat about 'Blind?' !
it's really great of you to drop by to discuss your music and offer your own take on your music, Vynce. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on your third release because I see a lot of progress from the first to the second (=
Hi Vynce, it's always greatly appreciated when musicians stop by to chat! May I please ask: did you have the music for Bind? written before you hired the new singer, or did you write the music/vocal lines to fit her?
@sonatoarctico :
Done ! We have a new singer. More intense, more bite
You know, I gave this album more than one listen and I've been left a little bit cold. What I mean is that, the first album had something that this one lacks, and that is substance. Even so, in the song-writing department you guys did great, it is much more heavier than the debut opus and the progressive approach is also pretty appealing. What really felt out of place was the vocalist, without a doubt. While on several songs (such as "The Lighthouse" or "Cathedral of the Damned", for example) she sounds nice, on more than half of the album, she sounds out of place, it feels like the music was not written having her vocal performance in mind (you already confirmed that the music and lyrics were written long ago).
I ain't going to be as harsh as the other site members were, overall, I do like the album, the melodies are great, in the song-writing department you guys are fantastic. I cannot call it complex since I am into the whole avant-garde phenomenon (where complexity is at its peak), though there is more room for improvement.
Hope that the new singer will do a better job and can't wait to hear her performing both live and in studio!
He he, I definitely come from the avant-garde stuff. When I was a bit younger, I did release incredibly complex tracks... the funniest of all was a dodecaphonic progressive rock piece, based on two figures : 5 and 12. The track was called Dodecamania. I'm not sure you can find it anywhere these days... (but if you google dodecamania, you might find it, I don't know).
Well, as I said in another post, I really love Elvyne's voice in this album. I worked with many many singers, and I can tell her voice is the best I ever had the chance to record. That said, since she comes from the "pop/celtic" side, I understand how some of you feel that she sounds out of place...
Marie has a fantastic voice too, and knew from the start that she would appeal more on the metal audience, because, well, she really is a "metal girl", even coming from a much more extreme scene...
One last thing : I'm pretty happy that you outlined the fact that we went more heavier and with a progressive approach. I've been disappointed lately by bands going the other way
she comes from the "pop/celtic" side, I understand how some of you feel that she sounds out of place...
no wonder I quite enjoyed it. I think there's a slightly different quality to it that I couldn't place my finger on haha, and it makes it stand out more. Still, I trust Marie will do a good job too
Wow the album rating and comments are really misleading ... I love both the music and the vocals . great stuff .
I agree fully.... I don't understand the rating...
I think it's a really good album, better than the first one. The music is heavy and complex, different from other symphonic bands. I like the prog side, and I don't have any problem with the vocalist either. She has a strong and good voice, which fits well in the songs. I don't want her to sound operatic like the other bands of the genre, or sound "heavy" like Doro (who I never liked)... I'm sad that she is not in the band anymore, but I will check out the new vocalist too, I trust the guys that they found a good one
Since some of you complained about the singer, here is a live video with our new one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_8V8cjO4Oc
Heh, you guys nailed it with this vocalist, she is really incredible. I like her live performance in this video, and I hope she does great in the studio department as well. Can't wait for some more quality material. Hope I can get to see you guys sometime live, the performance is outstanding!
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