Not to mention most 808 oriented stuff is way heavier than any metal band

Oh Boxcar. Many have tried all failed. I cannot learn to like hip hop. Same with reggae

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There is soooooo much good Hip Hop out there. You're truly missing out.

Radu I wish them best of luck. I can't help it modern hip hop is just terrible, unlistenable noise and gibberish. I think the fact that I am over half century old plays it's part how I see this genre

Most people suck

Most people would say the same thing about metal