So I have this weird theory that if you put a whale in your album cover, it instantly becomes a metal classic.








One counterexample and we can close the thread.


EDIT: On a second look, it probably has to be a white whale.

I wonder if that applies to albums outside of metal, too.

Since when are any of those albums referred to as metal classics?

Written by Troy Killjoy on 14.07.2012 at 04:08

Since when are any of those albums referred to as metal classics?

Ok, I probably sensationalized that, but you can't deny they are highly regarded modern metal albums. Here in metalstorm (and I believe in lots of other webzines/magazines) they all have good ratings and references (except Leviathan, but that is just here) and are the best output of these acclaimed bands according to most of their fanbase.

I've noticed that as well actually.

It's true. Take this classic Metal Church cover for example.

Non of those albums is classoc and never will be ,
Ahab is Moby Dick lyrical band so ..... others I dunno

Written by Bad English on 14.07.2012 at 13:20

Non of those albums is classoc and never will be ,
Ahab is Moby Dick lyrical band so ..... others I dunno

Those Mastodon and Ahab albums are kind of modern classics, I'd say.

Written by Warman on 14.07.2012 at 13:41

Written by Bad English on 14.07.2012 at 13:20

Non of those albums is classoc and never will be ,
Ahab is Moby Dick lyrical band so ..... others I dunno

Those Mastodon and Ahab albums are kind of modern classics, I'd say.

Matsadon can be, but Ahab is way to underground to be classic, Gojira is band what I hate and it sucks
But vhales dont make album classic, it is music, songs and so on,
Album artwork hmmmmm maybe but not this time

Written by Bad English on 14.07.2012 at 13:45

but Ahab is way to underground to be classic
But vhales dont make album classic, it is music, songs and so on,
Album artwork hmmmmm maybe but not this time

You could be right about Ahab. And of course, I think we all understand the whale on the cover isn't the formula for great music, it's just something funny to think about.

Written by Bad English on 14.07.2012 at 13:45



Gojira is band what I hate and it sucks

So just because you hate it it is not a classic? Wow, the ego on this guy is huge

From Mars To Sirius is considered a classic by many. So, please crawl back under the rock you came from.

Written by Warman on 14.07.2012 at 13:50

Written by Bad English on 14.07.2012 at 13:45

but Ahab is way to underground to be classic
But vhales dont make album classic, it is music, songs and so on,
Album artwork hmmmmm maybe but not this time

You could be right about Ahab. And of course, I think we all understand the whale on the cover isn't the formula for great music, it's just something funny to think about.

Indeed but there is millions or millrads of album covers
I saw true classic is Whitchfinder General ))

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2012 at 13:51

Written by Bad English on 14.07.2012 at 13:45



Gojira is band what I hate and it sucks

So just because you hate it it is not a classic? Wow, the ego on this guy is huge

From Mars To Sirius is considered a classic by many. So, please crawl back under the rock you came from.

I tryd to listen this band, I try to watch videos never worked for me ,

I would say landscapes like 1th Borknagar and In the Nightside Eclipse such type album artworks makes album classic, one more conspiracy

Yeah K7, but he's saying you don't have to like it for something to be a classic. It's not one person who decides what's classic or not, it's a majority.

And "landscape" albums being classics? Not really. Kreator's "Endorama" is kinda "landescapy", not a classic. More the opposite.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2012 at 13:51


From Mars To Sirius is considered a classic by many.

I second that

Written by Troy Killjoy on 14.07.2012 at 04:08

Since when are any of those albums referred to as metal classics?

Haha yes.

/thread

Written by The Turbanator on 14.07.2012 at 16:41

Written by Troy Killjoy on 14.07.2012 at 04:08

Since when are any of those albums referred to as metal classics?

Haha yes.

/thread

they actually are considered classics by loads of people so...
and it doesn't matter if the genre is underground or not. Unground genres also have their classics.

Written by Unhealer on 14.07.2012 at 04:23

Written by Troy Killjoy on 14.07.2012 at 04:08

Since when are any of those albums referred to as metal classics?

Ok, I probably sensationalized that, but you can't deny they are highly regarded modern metal albums. Here in metalstorm (and I believe in lots of other webzines/magazines) they all have good ratings and references (except Leviathan, but that is just here) and are the best output of these acclaimed bands according to most of their fanbase.

Leviathan is somehow scored highest of all Mastodon albums here on MS so I am wondering where you get the notion that the album doesn't get a good rating here. It averages 8.5 after 482 or so votes. Which I personally can't understand since Remission I find superior in every aspect.

I would argue that these are all albums generally referred to as "great" by the majority, but a minority refer to them as classics - just like a minority refer to them as shit.

Of course, this will all be easier to debate in another 10 years. I'm sure when albums like Master of Puppets were being released, people thought it's an instant classic. But the only way to be sure is letting a decade or two pass and let the public decide.

Moby Dick just happens to be a very inspirational tale that can bring out a group of musicians creativeness well, clearly.

Written by Silent Jay on 14.07.2012 at 17:16

Moby Dick just happens to be a very inspirational tale that can bring out a group of musicians creativeness well, clearly.

/buzzkill

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2012 at 16:48


Leviathan is somehow scored highest of all Mastodon albums here on MS so I am wondering where you get the notion that the album doesn't get a good rating here. It averages 8.5 after 482 or so votes. Which I personally can't understand since Remission I find superior in every aspect.

Well, I actually said that comparing to the other two. They have 8.8 and 8.9 ratings while Leviathan 8.5; and Crack The Skye has a 8.6 score, so it's not the highest score for a Mastodon record. It also doesn't have any awards like the others, so on a first look it's not a highly regarded album by the users here.

Written by Unhealer on 14.07.2012 at 20:17

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2012 at 16:48


Leviathan is somehow scored highest of all Mastodon albums here on MS so I am wondering where you get the notion that the album doesn't get a good rating here. It averages 8.5 after 482 or so votes. Which I personally can't understand since Remission I find superior in every aspect.

Well, I actually said that comparing to the other two. They have 8.8 and 8.9 ratings while Leviathan 8.5; and Crack The Skye has a 8.6 score, so it's not the highest score for a Mastodon record. It also doesn't have any awards like the others, so on a first look it's not a highly regarded album by the users here.

only Crack the Skye scores higher here on MS with an 8.6. So I don't know where you got that 8.8 and 8.9 from

Written by Warman on 14.07.2012 at 14:00

Yeah K7, but he's saying you don't have to like it for something to be a classic. It's not one person who decides what's classic or not, it's a majority.

And "landscape" albums being classics? Not really. Kreator's "Endorama" is kinda "landescapy", not a classic. More the opposite.

yes you proved what I ry to say about album covers ..... so same whit whales ...
and if majority will decide I dobnt think those 3 will be classic, actualy I cant image any classic album whit whale , I like Ahab and Matsadon , but still dont see it classic

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2012 at 20:20


only Crack the Skye scores higher here on MS with an 8.6. So I don't know where you got that 8.8 and 8.9 from

By the other two I meant Gojira and Ahab's albums, they have 8.8 and 8.9 if I remember correctly.

Written by Unhealer on 14.07.2012 at 21:13

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.07.2012 at 20:20


only Crack the Skye scores higher here on MS with an 8.6. So I don't know where you got that 8.8 and 8.9 from

By the other two I meant Gojira and Ahab's albums, they have 8.8 and 8.9 if I remember correctly.

Oh sorry, for me misunderstanding you. And tbh I prefer those two to Leviathan by that margin as well.

You are HIGH.

Three whales out of, like, 100K metal album covers is not statistically significant.

Leviathan (or anything by Mastodon) does not appear on this site's Top 200 list.

Your theory is whack.

Written by PGON DESTROYTRON on 15.07.2012 at 06:14

You are HIGH.

Three whales out of, like, 100K metal album covers is not statistically significant.

Leviathan (or anything by Mastodon) does not appear on this site's Top 200 list.

Your theory is whack.

way to take it too SERIOUSLY.

It's just a little fun fact, and I'm sure theres more album covers with whales too.

I'm stumped even thinking of another metal album cover depicting a whale. I found it amusing to find in the online urban dictionary a reference to 'whalecore' as "a "genre" of music used to describe bands with at least one album in which the cover artwork displays a whale". So I guess Mastodon, Ahab and Gojira are whalecore - according to that definition.

Written by Ace Frawley on 15.07.2012 at 14:13

I'm stumped even thinking of another metal album cover depicting a whale. I found it amusing to find in the online urban dictionary a reference to 'whalecore' as "a "genre" of music used to describe bands with at least one album in which the cover artwork displays a whale". So I guess Mastodon, Ahab and Gojira are whalecore - according to that definition.

my good that is a totally lame subgenre description. First of all noine of those bands sound anything alike so it's impossible to chuck them in the same subgenre and secondly only Mastodon has any hardcore in it to warrant the core suffix.