Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Amazing album, love it, maybe previous was heavier, but this is heavier emotionally
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7666  |
Written by Bad English on 01.09.2017 at 17:06
Amazing album, love it, maybe previous was heavier, but this is heavier emotionally
This is significantly heavier emotionally and musically I think. It needs time and many spins to be appreciated fully.
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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Overall, a let down. Compared to TPW, this one pales. Just 2 good songs. A lot of boring moments, reminiscent of the few couple of albums before FDU-DUU.
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Kinzoku
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Written by TheMAGAmvm on 01.09.2017 at 23:27
Overall, a let down. Compared to TPW, this one pales. Just 2 good songs. A lot of boring moments, reminiscent of the few couple of albums before FDU-DUU.
What 2 songs if I may ask?
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Opethian
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02.09.2017 - 03:14Rating: 9
My Digi-book is on its way from Poland! Glad to read such good words about the release! Congrats PL!
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7666  |
Written by TheMAGAmvm on 01.09.2017 at 23:27
Overall, a let down. Compared to TPW, this one pales. Just 2 good songs. A lot of boring moments, reminiscent of the few couple of albums before FDU-DUU.
I have the same question as Kinzoku: which two songs? Also, In Requiem just before FDU-DUU, was awesome. Give it another try (Medusa I mean, I guess you've tried In Requiem enough by now). The first time I listened to Medusa, I thought it was a disappointing effort, but it slowly started to grow on me and now I love it.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6133  |
02.09.2017 - 16:58Rating: 7
Written by nikarg on 02.09.2017 at 12:39
I thought it was a disappointing effort, but it slowly started to grow on me and now I love it.
It is disappointing, because it pales in comparison with "The Plague Within", which was so varied. "Medusa" consists of 8 re-visits of "Beneath Broken Earth". Where has the variety gone?
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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Written by Kinzoku on 02.09.2017 at 03:00
Written by TheMAGAmvm on 01.09.2017 at 23:27
Overall, a let down. Compared to TPW, this one pales. Just 2 good songs. A lot of boring moments, reminiscent of the few couple of albums before FDU-DUU.
What 2 songs if I may ask?
The Longest Winter and Blood and Chaos. No wonder the band released them as singles.
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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Written by nikarg on 02.09.2017 at 12:39
Written by TheMAGAmvm on 01.09.2017 at 23:27
Overall, a let down. Compared to TPW, this one pales. Just 2 good songs. A lot of boring moments, reminiscent of the few couple of albums before FDU-DUU.
I have the same question as Kinzoku: which two songs? Also, In Requiem just before FDU-DUU, was awesome. Give it another try (Medusa I mean, I guess you've tried In Requiem enough by now). The first time I listened to Medusa, I thought it was a disappointing effort, but it slowly started to grow on me and now I love it.
I think I gave like 5 spins. Plenty to make an impression. This is not some complex prog music that requires a lot of spins to sink in. The album is average to be honest. There are no cheesy or commercial moments, it's just that the songwriting lacks on this one. Macintosh wasn't inspired this time. Sound wise it is great, nice heavy guitars, good vocals too, but that's it. The first 3 tracks in particular made me yawn. TPW had now not 2, but 7 good-great tracks. Huge difference.
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7666  |
Written by TheMAGAmvm on 02.09.2017 at 18:22
I think I gave like 5 spins. Plenty to make an impression. This is not some complex prog music that requires a lot of spins to sink in. The album is average to be honest. There are no cheesy or commercial moments, it's just that the songwriting lacks on this one. Macintosh wasn't inspired this time. Sound wise it is great, nice heavy guitars, good vocals too, but that's it. The first 3 tracks in particular made me yawn. TPW had now not 2, but 7 good-great tracks. Huge difference.
Fair enough mate. I'm still curious to know which two you actually liked
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7666  |
Written by Daniell on 02.09.2017 at 16:58
It is disappointing, because it pales in comparison with "The Plague Within", which was so varied. "Medusa" consists of 8 re-visits of "Beneath Broken Earth". Where has the variety gone?
It's a doom/death record is all. It's not supposed to be diverse.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6133  |
02.09.2017 - 21:24Rating: 7
Written by nikarg on 02.09.2017 at 20:08
It's a doom/death record is all. It's not supposed to be diverse.
You can say that about any album. And that will not make it better.
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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Written by nikarg on 02.09.2017 at 20:04
Written by TheMAGAmvm on 02.09.2017 at 18:22
I think I gave like 5 spins. Plenty to make an impression. This is not some complex prog music that requires a lot of spins to sink in. The album is average to be honest. There are no cheesy or commercial moments, it's just that the songwriting lacks on this one. Macintosh wasn't inspired this time. Sound wise it is great, nice heavy guitars, good vocals too, but that's it. The first 3 tracks in particular made me yawn. TPW had now not 2, but 7 good-great tracks. Huge difference.
Fair enough mate. I'm still curious to know which two you actually liked 
Look up. I mentioned the two songs.
"The Longest Winter and Blood and Chaos. No wonder the band released them as singles."
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TeachNThrash
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02.09.2017 - 23:37Rating: 9
I absolutely love this album. Must have just clicked with my personal tastes.
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heteo
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I also have been listening to PARADISE LOST since i was 15. Now I am 37. Though they were lost (for me) through electro paths - inputs it's a pleasure to listen to their albums the last decade...
ROCK OF GODS 1996..reminder!
I absolutely love this album. It grows in you.. I have been listening to it 2 days..
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7666  |
Written by Daniell on 02.09.2017 at 21:24
Written by nikarg on 02.09.2017 at 20:08
It's a doom/death record is all. It's not supposed to be diverse.
You can say that about any album. And that will not make it better.
It doesn't make it bad either. Diversity or variety is not a prerequisite of greatness.
Your favourite album (and one of mine too), Reign In Blood, has ten songs and most people -especially the ones that didn't live that era- can't make out which song is which. Loss (USA)'s Horizonless is another great doom record of this year and there is no variety in it either.
Medusa is not 8 re-visits of "Beneath Broken Earth", it is just a record focusing on one style from a band that usually mixes a few styles and did it fantastically in The Plague Within. This is why they chose "Shrines" and "Symbolic Virtue" as bonus tracks even though they are both fantastic songs and would add variety. And I believe they would have done it with "Blood And Chaos" too, if it wasn't so damn perfect and they probably needed something as catchy as "No Hope In Sight" in the album. "Beneath Broken Earth" was a great addition to The Plague Within, but in Medusa it wouldn't be the best song of the record (not that it is bad of course).
I was a bit disappointed after the first listen, because I expected another The Plague Within and it is not. However, I never decide about an album, if I haven't listened to it at least 10 times. For a review, it is pretty much always more than 20. I am surprised you don't like it, because usually our taste is similar I think.
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7666  |
Written by heteo on 03.09.2017 at 11:06
I also have been listening to PARADISE LOST since i was 15. Now I am 37. Though they were lost (for me) through electro paths - inputs it's a pleasure to listen to their albums the last decade...
ROCK OF GODS 1996..reminder!
I absolutely love this album. It grows in you.. I have been listening to it 2 days.. 
I think I like their last five records as much as the first five!
Rock of Gods dude  seems like it was a lifetime ago..
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6133  |
03.09.2017 - 17:10Rating: 7
Written by nikarg on 03.09.2017 at 12:06
I was a bit disappointed after the first listen, because I expected another The Plague Within and it is not. However, I never decide about an album, if I haven't listened to it at least 10 times. For a review, it is pretty much always more than 20. I am surprised you don't like it, because usually our taste is similar I think.
I listened to this album at least 10 times. It's still disappointing
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7666  |
Written by Daniell on 03.09.2017 at 17:10
I listened to this album at least 10 times. It's still disappointing 
That's cool. Btw I wasn't trying to "convert" you or anyone else for that matter.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6133  |
03.09.2017 - 18:57Rating: 7
Written by nikarg on 03.09.2017 at 17:24
That's cool. Btw I wasn't trying to "convert" you or anyone else for that matter. 
I never thought you were
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Sentenced Odiin gothic.moorion@gmail.com
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08.09.2017 - 22:16Rating: 9
I agree on the fact that TPLW had more PL style variety and overall maybe the strongest release after Draconian Times, but Medusa is more into death/doom, like Shades Of God / Gothic era. Considering the style's atmosphere and the songwriting, it is a great release. For me only two songs are lacking the inspiration and a bit dry: Gods Of Ancient and From The Gallows.
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Balor_Yanek
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This album deserves to be in the list best of 2017.
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darkthrone
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I really like it it takes a few listens but deffo a grower in my book
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Ace Frawley The Spaceman
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21.09.2017 - 11:27Rating: 7
Written by darkthrone on 17.09.2017 at 13:30
I really like it it takes a few listens but deffo a grower in my book
Definitely agree with this. It was the same experience for me. Love the title track especially.
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MelancholiaC
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"The music you got into when you were 15-16 always stays with you at some degree, always keeps coming back"
There's a part of me that hopes Mikael Akerfeldt can realize this one day.
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Absinthe
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It's funny how different people hear different things.
I've been a huge fan of Paradise Lost since 1995 and they're one of my favourite bands, but I think the rating for 'Medusa' here is significantly over-inflated. While it's definitely an album that takes several listens to sink in properly, I just feel that the sludgy for sludgy's sake production does it no favours - especially the hollow sounding snare drum and the Vallenfyre guitar tone. I find the album tends to merge together, and not in a great way.
Clearly they're trying to build upon possibly their greatest song ever in 'Beneath Broken Earth', but nothing here comes close to that song and the whole album is ultimately pretty unexciting. I definitely still like it, but I wouldn't even put it in their top 5 releases.
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I'm with the band since Lost Paradise. Every time they release new album I got expectations high but since Shades of God my expectations seem to be too high.
I like Medusa a lot but still it's not what I wanted. its almost there but not yet. I certainly hope that next album will hit all the right notes for me.
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goatofgod
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For some reason PL was one of those bands that, unfortunately, i never got into. I think because when I looked into them originally, they were doing the depeche/electro thing. THAT, I did not like at all. I thoroughly enjoyed this album and TPW. I have heard the PL used to be more Doom in the past, can someone help me out on which PL albums that are softer & electro so I omit those and stick to the Doom stuff, would be doing me a solid. I know that they have a lot of albums, could be saving me a ton of time!
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nikarg StaffPosts: 7666  |
Written by goatofgod on 21.11.2017 at 04:01
For some reason PL was one of those bands that, unfortunately, i never got into. I think because when I looked into them originally, they were doing the depeche/electro thing. THAT, I did not like at all. I thoroughly enjoyed this album and TPW. I have heard the PL used to be more Doom in the past, can someone help me out on which PL albums that are softer & electro so I omit those and stick to the Doom stuff, would be doing me a solid. I know that they have a lot of albums, could be saving me a ton of time! 
Every PL album is different but try the first five (Lost Paradise, Gothic, Shades Of God, Icon, Draconian Times) 
The three before The Plague Within (In Requiem, Faith Divides Us - Death Unites Us, Tragic Idol) are also great.
I envy you. Discovering Paradise Lost will be a real treat for you.
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goatofgod
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Thanks Nikarg! That's a HUGE help!
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