csiga Munin
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28.09.2010 - 13:53Rating: 10
I wonder how u find it already
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jupitreas hi-fi / lo-life StaffPosts: 6660 |
Written by csiga on 28.09.2010 at 13:53
I wonder how u find it already
He got it from Nuclear Blast. I know this must seem unusual for you but we're actually a real music magazine that receives promos from labels
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Ellrohir Heaven Knight
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I find quite strange publishing review more than 2 weeks before release date...
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csiga Munin
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28.09.2010 - 14:10Rating: 10
Written by jupitreas on 28.09.2010 at 14:01
Written by csiga on 28.09.2010 at 13:53
I wonder how u find it already
He got it from Nuclear Blast. I know this must seem unusual for you but we're actually a real music magazine that receives promos from labels
you mean the 'we're' for ms?
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jupitreas hi-fi / lo-life StaffPosts: 6660 |
Written by csiga on 28.09.2010 at 14:10
Written by jupitreas on 28.09.2010 at 14:01
Written by csiga on 28.09.2010 at 13:53
I wonder how u find it already
He got it from Nuclear Blast. I know this must seem unusual for you but we're actually a real music magazine that receives promos from labels
you mean the 'we're' for ms?
Well, yes, Barry and I are both staff members.
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csiga Munin
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28.09.2010 - 14:18Rating: 10
Written by jupitreas on 28.09.2010 at 14:12
Written by csiga on 28.09.2010 at 14:10
Written by jupitreas on 28.09.2010 at 14:01
Written by csiga on 28.09.2010 at 13:53
I wonder how u find it already
He got it from Nuclear Blast. I know this must seem unusual for you but we're actually a real music magazine that receives promos from labels
you mean the 'we're' for ms?
Well, yes, Barry and I are both staff members.
yea, i know, but i thought he works for hammer world or something like that, so that is the reaseon why he has it got
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Carl Berg Carl Berg
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Good review, I wasn't expecting anything big anyway.
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ImNotMetal
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Ellrohir Heaven Knight
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Written by ImNotMetal on 28.09.2010 at 14:26
Promo review
well it isnt really the best promotion that album can get
(not doubting about the fact that the review is realistic and fair)
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Sati
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How is that the rating says 6 while the EP recieved 9-7-7-10 for performance and stuff?
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Jiri
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28.09.2010 - 15:21Rating: 4
Good question, Sati.
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Andreas
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28.09.2010 - 15:23Rating: 10
9 + 7 + 7+ 10=33, 33/4 = 8,25.
I know the rating system doesn't work like this, but the difference between 8,25 and 6 is fairly obvious to say the least.
Oh, and an Italian Rhapsody ballad? I'm buying this one.
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vezzy Stallmanite
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Written by Sati on 28.09.2010 at 15:04
How is that the rating says 6 while the EP recieved 9-7-7-10 for performance and stuff?
Just because they can perform well their drivel doesn't make the drivel good.
Although the "7" ratings may be questionable, I can't deny not having used it myself as a reluctant placeholder for "seeming lack of originality". Dunno.
I think I'll listen to this solely for laughing at.
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MeTalRea|istiK
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Cool cover..looking forward to it!!
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corrupt With a lowercase c AdminPosts: 3716 |
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Written by Sati on 28.09.2010 at 15:04
How is that the rating says 6 while the EP recieved 9-7-7-10 for performance and stuff?
Baz is usually not too hung up on numbers. He will tell you that the invididual scores have to be seen individually and so does the final score. And in general, he will say, you should pay more attention to the words than the numbers.
He did that to me quite a number of times
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Written by corrupt on 28.09.2010 at 16:23
Written by Sati on 28.09.2010 at 15:04
How is that the rating says 6 while the EP recieved 9-7-7-10 for performance and stuff?
Baz is usually not too hung up on numbers. He will tell you that the invididual scores have to be seen individually and so does the final score. And in general, he will say, you should pay more attention to the words than the numbers.
He did that to me quite a number of times
And that is absolutely correct. The overall score doesn't necessarily have to be the mean of the others
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Andreas
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28.09.2010 - 20:32Rating: 10
Written by corrupt on 28.09.2010 at 16:23
Baz is usually not too hung up on numbers. He will tell you that the invididual scores have to be seen individually and so does the final score. And in general, he will say, you should pay more attention to the words than the numbers.
He did that to me quite a number of times
Then why the hell use those numbers?
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Written by Andreas on 28.09.2010 at 20:32
Written by corrupt on 28.09.2010 at 16:23
Baz is usually not too hung up on numbers. He will tell you that the invididual scores have to be seen individually and so does the final score. And in general, he will say, you should pay more attention to the words than the numbers.
He did that to me quite a number of times
Then why the hell use those numbers?
Because any band with enough money to put on a record will have a great production quality.It doesn't mean the album is any good.(Used production as an example but you get the idea)
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Each reviewer has their own style and standard. As long as you have read enough reviews of different reviewers here, you would understand their bars. As said above, the written words is the crux
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Great review. I appreciate you breaking DerRozzengarten's string of reviews, haha. I could use a different perspective on albums.
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Oh, come on, guys! How come you're judging Baz for giving 9, 7, 7, 10 at the different modules but, on the other hand, deciding on an overall rating of 6.0 whereas I'm pretty sure his review is relevant, absolutely realistic and fair enough, as well?! (Which, speaking of Rhapsody themselves, I'm PRETTY certain about...) That's why it's called an 'overall impression' - it doesn't necessarily have to match with the individual scores.
As for reviewing the EP before its actual release, I could only say that: Like it or not, the guy is a Staffer which means he is allowed to review anything at any time, y'know. Besides that, nice job, Barry! I found your work absolutely hilarious in a good way and I'm damn sure I'm gonna check this EP out only in order to get some real laughs.
'Manowar-eque scream' LOL
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Daggon Underpaid M.D.
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28.09.2010 - 23:47Rating: 8
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As a HUGE Rhapsody fan, I'm afraid that this review will get valid as soon as I get this album in my hands, even if I love too much this band, "The Frozen Tears Of Angels" wasn't what I expected, I hope this won't have the same result on me as TFTOA. Still, I'm quite expectant.
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Doc G. Full Grown Hoser StaffPosts: 9723 |
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Written by csiga on 28.09.2010 at 14:18
yea, i know, but i thought he works for hammer world or something like that, so that is the reaseon why he has it got
You should probably learn how promo & press stuff works before making assumptions.
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RavenKing
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The review seems to confirm that the album will be exactly what I expected. Lots and lots of cheese with very little music. Since SOEL II this band are doing their best to play their instruments as less as possible and fill the albums with as much cheesy garbage as possible.
I wonder how someone can take this stuff seriously, apart from Turilli and his legendary epic ego. Like Baz says, they believe everything they touch is pure gold.
Looks like this album will even beat "Nightfall In Middle-Earth" for the ratio of filler tracks.
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Kratos
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*Sigh* The narrations in Rhapsody songs rape it for the most part, imo. I'll be staying away from this filler and narration fest.
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Andreas
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29.09.2010 - 07:55Rating: 10
Written by Edmund Fogg on 28.09.2010 at 21:41
Because any band with enough money to put on a record will have a great production quality.It doesn't mean the album is any good.(Used production as an example but you get the idea)
And you used the most generic example. Performance is good, songwriting and originality are maybe not that good, but 7 isn't too bad. So where does the actual rating (6.0) come from?
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Written by Andreas on 29.09.2010 at 07:55
Written by Edmund Fogg on 28.09.2010 at 21:41
Because any band with enough money to put on a record will have a great production quality.It doesn't mean the album is any good.(Used production as an example but you get the idea)
And you used the most generic example. Performance is good, songwriting and originality are maybe not that good, but 7 isn't too bad. So where does the actual rating (6.0) come from?
just because a band is skilled at their instruments, creates a song with a decent structure and great production does not mean it's actually a GOOD song...
the final overall score represents an overall opinion of the album.
i realize this is apparently really difficult for a lot of people to process, as this is the 4th or 5th time i've seen it brought up offhand, including this being the second time on this particular discussion.
buck up, Baz, i think the biggest reason people are having a hard time digesting your score is because they haven't been able to digest the music yet. my guess is if you gave it a 6, it must be pretty dreadful as you are usually a tad nicer than i.
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RavenKing
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Written by Kratos on 29.09.2010 at 04:59
*Sigh* The narrations in Rhapsody songs rape it for the most part, imo. I'll be staying away from this filler and narration fest.
The problem is not so much the narrations in themselves (as cheesy as they are) as the way they use them. They don't blend them into the songs. I mean, if it would be some background 'vocals' just put as a complement to music, it would be much less annoying and they would sound less cheesy. As it is now, they just kill the songs by destroying the pace of the music. Listen to "Unholy Warcry" for example. The music just cuts suddenly, the song stops, and then the talking starts.
Also, the talking is way too long at times since SOEL II. Sometimes, it feels more as you're listening to the recording of someone reading a book than to music. They even seem to believe that spoken parts can be an entire song.
If I can draw a comparison, I would say I find Bal-Sagoth boring because the narrating voice is used way too much but at least the songs flow, the spoken parts are over the music. In Bal-Sagoth's case, the problem is not the way spoken parts are used but that the ratio between them and real vocals is way too high.
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csiga Munin
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29.09.2010 - 19:54Rating: 10
Written by Doc G. on 29.09.2010 at 03:10
Written by csiga on 28.09.2010 at 14:18
yea, i know, but i thought he works for hammer world or something like that, so that is the reaseon why he has it got
You should probably learn how promo & press stuff works before making assumptions.
my assumption have nothing to do with the promo and press stuffs, but never mind
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