Baz Anderson StaffPosts: 13254 |
well I have always gone by my real name, like you are now.. Baz (or Barry) Anderson and not many others seem to do that.. surname as well.. so hopefully I have never been seen to have been 'hiding'.. but have only started reviewing for the front page since the end of February wheras you will have for longer..
ha - but yeh, of course I am going to lean a little towards English bands like you are bands from the Netherlands.. haha
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I don't have my real name as nick, but if go see my profile you can see my real first name there.. Maybe I should add last name too.. But hell, I haven't even done any reviews, but maybe someday It's true that it is almost impossible to be objective while reviewing a bands work, especially when you're talking about a really well-known band like Metallica or Dream Theater.. I myself usually am more critic for finnish bands when I'm asked of what I'm thinking of their albums. It's like this thing in football for ex. If the son of the trainer is in the team, he will probably have to face harder comments than the others.
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If you wanted to find out a person's real name, why not look at their profile? Or better yet, why not ask them by PM?
As for this blog post of yours, I could not understand a damn thing. To me, it was just a wall of incoherent text. It's sort of strange considering you're reading this comment which was made by the master of incoherency.
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Susan Smeghead ElitePosts: 6941 |
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Great insight into reviewing. As I delve further into reviewing for MS I have been asking myself a lot of these same questions. If I review a band's 5th album, should I have heard the first 4 in order to write a good review? Is it better that I have NOT heard the first 4? Lots of things like that give me trouble... but at the end of the day you gotta just give your opinion positive and negative. It's nice to see what other reviewers worry about/consider before publishing.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by [user id=5630] on 12.05.2007 at 21:26
If you wanted to find out a person's real name, why not look at their profile? Or better yet, why not ask them by PM?
As for this blog post of yours, I could not understand a damn thing. To me, it was just a wall of incoherent text. It's sort of strange considering you're reading this comment which was made by the master of incoherency.
For real names in the profiles... most people don't use them there either. And that is besides the point I was trying to make. Read again and try to understand the point I was making as to why to use your real name when reviewing ;-)
As to you considering it an incoherent text... check out the title of this blog... Ramblings of a Rabid Reviewer.
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shall I change Herzebeth for Francisco Eguiza???
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Written by Herzebeth on 12.05.2007 at 21:34
shall I change Herzebeth for Francisco Eguiza???
I am not saying anyone must... it is up to the individual. I wanted to give people something to think about
Another reason for me to change my nick to my real name was that I felt like a stupid kid when introducing myself to some band members as "Hi I am Ozman of Metal Storm." when meeting them face to face.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 12.05.2007 at 21:37
Written by Herzebeth on 12.05.2007 at 21:34
shall I change Herzebeth for Francisco Eguiza???
I am not saying anyone must... it is up to the individual. I wanted to give people something to think about
Another reason for me to change my nick to my real name was that I felt like a stupid kid when introducing myself to some band members as "Hi I am Ozman of Metal Storm." when meeting them face to face.
Actually, I liked your nickname of Ozman. It reminded me of Osman I, the founder of the Ottoman Empire. Is the reason why you changed your nickname because you no longer wanted to be associated with a figure from medieval history?
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GT Coffee!! StaffPosts: 5101 |
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Nice insight on reviewing and some very good arguments against the use of internet-nicks when reviewing. Seems like you've been thinking about the before mentioned subjects for quite some time.
Personally have nothing against internet-nicks...if people fell more comfortable using one then fine. I use my initials and well my real name is in my profile
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Written by [user id=5630] on 12.05.2007 at 22:00
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 12.05.2007 at 21:37
Written by Herzebeth on 12.05.2007 at 21:34
shall I change Herzebeth for Francisco Eguiza???
I am not saying anyone must... it is up to the individual. I wanted to give people something to think about
Another reason for me to change my nick to my real name was that I felt like a stupid kid when introducing myself to some band members as "Hi I am Ozman of Metal Storm." when meeting them face to face.
Actually, I liked your nickname of Ozman. It reminded me of Osman I, the founder of the Ottoman Empire. Is the reason why you changed your nickname because you no longer wanted to be associated with a figure from medieval history?
Nope, the reason I switched from my nickname to my real name is given in the rambling blog post of mine....
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 12.05.2007 at 22:06
Written by [user id=5630] on 12.05.2007 at 22:00
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 12.05.2007 at 21:37
Written by Herzebeth on 12.05.2007 at 21:34
shall I change Herzebeth for Francisco Eguiza???
I am not saying anyone must... it is up to the individual. I wanted to give people something to think about
Another reason for me to change my nick to my real name was that I felt like a stupid kid when introducing myself to some band members as "Hi I am Ozman of Metal Storm." when meeting them face to face.
Actually, I liked your nickname of Ozman. It reminded me of Osman I, the founder of the Ottoman Empire. Is the reason why you changed your nickname because you no longer wanted to be associated with a figure from medieval history?
Nope, the reason I switched from my nickname to my real name is given in the rambling blog post of mine....
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any of the reasons as detailed in your blog post because the text is all compact together and it is hard for me to figure out when a sentence ends and another begins. Perhaps if you put it into an easily readable paragraph form, then maybe I will be able to understand whatever it is you're trying to get across. Until then, I'm clueless.
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Written by [user id=5630] on 12.05.2007 at 22:15
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 12.05.2007 at 22:06
Written by [user id=5630] on 12.05.2007 at 22:00
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 12.05.2007 at 21:37
Written by Herzebeth on 12.05.2007 at 21:34
shall I change Herzebeth for Francisco Eguiza???
I am not saying anyone must... it is up to the individual. I wanted to give people something to think about
Another reason for me to change my nick to my real name was that I felt like a stupid kid when introducing myself to some band members as "Hi I am Ozman of Metal Storm." when meeting them face to face.
Actually, I liked your nickname of Ozman. It reminded me of Osman I, the founder of the Ottoman Empire. Is the reason why you changed your nickname because you no longer wanted to be associated with a figure from medieval history?
Nope, the reason I switched from my nickname to my real name is given in the rambling blog post of mine....
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any of the reasons as detailed in your blog post because the text is all compact together and it is hard for me to figure out when a sentence ends and another begins. Perhaps if you put it into an easily readable paragraph form, then maybe I will be able to understand whatever it is you're trying to get across. Until then, I'm clueless.
I am not editing my text for it to become more readable. Sentences do start and end there as well ;-)
I am not dumbing it down :-0
Ever heard of stream-of-consciousness, well my blog is nothing compared to that. Try James Joyce's Ulysses and you'll really be left behind stumped.
O btw, paragraphs ARE used in my text.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 12.05.2007 at 22:23
Written by [user id=5630] on 12.05.2007 at 22:15
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 12.05.2007 at 22:06
Written by [user id=5630] on 12.05.2007 at 22:00
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 12.05.2007 at 21:37
Written by Herzebeth on 12.05.2007 at 21:34
shall I change Herzebeth for Francisco Eguiza???
I am not saying anyone must... it is up to the individual. I wanted to give people something to think about
Another reason for me to change my nick to my real name was that I felt like a stupid kid when introducing myself to some band members as "Hi I am Ozman of Metal Storm." when meeting them face to face.
Actually, I liked your nickname of Ozman. It reminded me of Osman I, the founder of the Ottoman Empire. Is the reason why you changed your nickname because you no longer wanted to be associated with a figure from medieval history?
Nope, the reason I switched from my nickname to my real name is given in the rambling blog post of mine....
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any of the reasons as detailed in your blog post because the text is all compact together and it is hard for me to figure out when a sentence ends and another begins. Perhaps if you put it into an easily readable paragraph form, then maybe I will be able to understand whatever it is you're trying to get across. Until then, I'm clueless.
I am not editing my text for it to become more readable. Sentences do start and end there as well ;-)
I am not dumbing it down :-0
Ever heard of stream-of-consciousness, well my blog is nothing compared to that. Try James Joyce's Ulysses and you'll really be left behind stumped.
O btw, paragraphs ARE used in my text.
I read James Joyce's Ulysses and I could understand it perfectly. If you want incoherent, I'll be incoherent. Case in point:
Incoherent spells 1992 upside down Bob Newhart. Bottled fluid milk, yogurts, Red Rock Ginger Ale, vitamin D buttermilk and when did the slippery Yankees subtraction mastery. But grandma failed because my toy train went swimming in the piano. And pixie combs has been in the hands of Brenton James' combs from 2002 to 2006. Pixie sits in the little bed & sits with Kyle from South Park. It may contain references to human history, your mom, Dick Cheney and the speaker system I recently installed in my baby water bottle.
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Hello there. this sounds lame and all but I really agree with most of the things you sayed there. About the names, its cool if people real names in the forum but all of us might not feel comfortable with displaying our name in a forum full of strangers, anyways respect for all who do.(Btw my real name is as displayed at the upper left of this post)
About reviewing, I've puzzled with the same questions. Being objective, well its just like flipping a coin and hoping it will land on the rim. I stopped writing reviews after I asked myself the same questions which you're discussing here, a tricky busniess indeed.
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Mr. Pink Think Tank, why don't you aim you guns to something more constructive than killing your time here.
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Written by [user id=3005] on 12.05.2007 at 22:39
P.S
Mr. Pink Think Tank, why don't you aim you guns to something more constructive than killing your time here.
Was this comment directed at me?
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Bas Retired Staff ElitePosts: 5591 |
BasRetired StaffElitePosts: 5591
of course reviews are subjective, yet (in most cases of course ) they are written by people who gave the music a chance and who actually know what they're talking about when they describe how something sounds
and i think thats what a reviewer is supposed to do, to not only tell how he likes an album but also to be able to convey how a piece of music sounds in text
just my two cents
and Insi, i didnt have any problems with reading Marcel's blog
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Written by [user id=5630] on 12.05.2007 at 22:46
Written by [user id=3005] on 12.05.2007 at 22:39
P.S
Mr. Pink Think Tank, why don't you aim you guns to something more constructive than killing your time here.
Was this comment directed at me?
Yes.
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@Bas: Well, you might have read it well, but I have a problem when people write and I can't seem to see the paragraphs. For me, a paragraph may be seen with either a half-inch indention or there needs to be one empty line between each paragraph in order for me to read it easily, sort of like what you do. You add one empty line between each paragraph, giving me an easier time to read it. I just wanted to read the blog post without feeling daunted by a thick wall of text.
@Markku: In regards to your comment, no, I am not leaving until I get a cookie.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by [user id=5630] on 12.05.2007 at 22:57
@Bas: Well, you might have read it well, but I have a problem when people write and I can't seem to see the paragraphs. For me, a paragraph may be seen with either a half-inch indention or there needs to be one empty line between each paragraph in order for me to read it easily, sort of like what you do. You add one empty line between each paragraph, giving me an easier time to read it. I just wanted to read the blog post without feeling daunted by a thick wall of text.
The paragraphs are clearly defined though, maybe not for your eyes but they are there. The indentation is at the END of the paragraph (also a very common way to do it)
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 12.05.2007 at 23:00
The paragraphs are clearly defined though, maybe not for your eyes but they are there.
In this case, it must be a difference in the way I see things, isn't it?
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wrathchild StaffPosts: 14090 |
I understood everything, and I must say this is exactly what I expect from those "blogs"
I could relate to many of the things you wrote here. Since I don't really consider myself a reviewer, I'm keeping my nickname, but if I was to review more albums and more varied albums (say, more black, death or industrial albums) I would consider using my name (or at least my first name) instead of "wrathchild."
I understand it may remind the bands and readers of Iron Maiden too much (especially since my avatar is also taken from IM). The fact is that I'm not so much into Iron Maiden now, but I've been using it for so long that I made it my own, without considering its original meaning.
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Eddie Retired Mod. ElitePosts: 2617 |
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Reviews will always be subjective, no changing that. Ofcourse finding a balance between subjectivity and objectivity is key, but that matter has been discussed a million times before. A little bit of national pride in your reviews won't hurt Just try to find a balance I would suggest, but that comes from a person that doesnt do reviews
Nicknames, you have a point Marcel, but its still just a nickname, if people would behave differently cause of just their nickname Id call them just a lil tiny bit strange and not honest to yourself, but well nonetheless they still roam around haha.
So well, ramble away
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Raiden Down Under Staff ElitePosts: 8292 |
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Written by Susan on 12.05.2007 at 21:30
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Great insight into reviewing. As I delve further into reviewing for MS I have been asking myself a lot of these same questions. If I review a band's 5th album, should I have heard the first 4 in order to write a good review? Is it better that I have NOT heard the first 4? Lots of things like that give me trouble... but at the end of the day you gotta just give your opinion positive and negative. It's nice to see what other reviewers worry about/consider before publishing.
Well I suppose I've never really thought about the whole nickname thing. To me it's not really hiding my name or anything. I'd imagine people would know my name is Will by now (well, some I hope ). I guess usernames provide more of a "nickname" that the user can name themselves by. Not as much of a screen, but a self chosen name that one likes. A nickname could make a person feel good, if they have a powerful type of name. But some people just think it's just boring to have their given name. But like I said I haven't thought too much about it (until now ) though it's an interesting point to bring up.
You make a good point about reviewers, though I suppose it isn't that hard to find information about them. Although having your own name puts more of a "stamp" on your review, making it more "signed" by you.
This same kind of topic can be applied to band members though. Why do band members "hide" behind aliases? They probably have more reason for their names to be out their than reviewers, but why do they do it too? It's different even from the offline to online world, so why do they do it?
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Written by Raiden on 13.05.2007 at 18:27
This same kind of topic can be applied to band members though. Why do band members "hide" behind aliases? They probably have more reason for their names to be out their than reviewers, but why do they do it too? It's different even from the offline to online world, so why do they do it?
I suppose it's more of a theatrical thing for certain bands, to help cultivate a certain image to associate with the music. It tends to be Black Metal bands that use aliases more than other genres - and I guess if a guy's real name is Jeremy Pants, then he might think Lord Baphomet may seem more appropriate..!
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Written by Richard on 13.05.2007 at 19:03
Written by Raiden on 13.05.2007 at 18:27
This same kind of topic can be applied to band members though. Why do band members "hide" behind aliases? They probably have more reason for their names to be out their than reviewers, but why do they do it too? It's different even from the offline to online world, so why do they do it?
I suppose it's more of a theatrical thing for certain bands, to help cultivate a certain image to associate with the music. It tends to be Black Metal bands that use aliases more than other genres - and I guess if a guy's real name is Jeremy Pants, then he might think Lord Baphomet may seem more appropriate..!
Oh come on, that's an awesome name for a person!
To be truthful, I do use my real name when it comes to writing things such as articles for Metal Storm, but I always place my nickname in between my first and last name, and in quotation marks. My real name is Ethan Mittel, and my nickname is Insineratehymn, so it would appear as Ethan "Insineratehymn" Mittel. This way, people will recognize me if they have seen me on a certain website.
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Lucas Mr. Noise ElitePosts: 13427 |
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Written by Richard on 13.05.2007 at 19:03
Written by Raiden on 13.05.2007 at 18:27
This same kind of topic can be applied to band members though. Why do band members "hide" behind aliases? They probably have more reason for their names to be out their than reviewers, but why do they do it too? It's different even from the offline to online world, so why do they do it?
I suppose it's more of a theatrical thing for certain bands, to help cultivate a certain image to associate with the music. It tends to be Black Metal bands that use aliases more than other genres - and I guess if a guy's real name is Jeremy Pants, then he might think Lord Baphomet may seem more appropriate..!
And I suppose some members with jobs don't want to be known as a bandmember. Would you want to have the guitarist of Dark Funeral as your dentist? Don't think so!
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Quote: Their music works better with a very grainy almost minimal sort of production whereas that sort of production will have you run away screaming when it is used on a Dream Theater album.
Best quote I heard about production in awhile
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jupitreas hi-fi / lo-life StaffPosts: 6659 |
There is no universally good way of producing an album, there are just appropriate ways of doing it. Basically, I agree with what Marcel is saying but I wouldn't call Darkthrone's production crappy, since it isn't. Its actually brilliant production since it is 100% appropriate to the music.
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Doc G. Full Grown Hoser StaffPosts: 9718 |
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I can see where your coming from on the reviews type thing. Luckily I only review old albums and Im not staff, but if I was to ever become a staff member doing reviews Id probably follow your example, very honorable not hiding behind a nickname.
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Written by jupitreas on 15.05.2007 at 02:27
There is no universally good way of producing an album, there are just appropriate ways of doing it. Basically, I agree with what Marcel is saying but I wouldn't call Darkthrone's production crappy, since it isn't. Its actually brilliant production since it is 100% appropriate to the music.
Darkthrone is not crappy production, it is Lo-Fi production.
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