JoHn Doe
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Rabbit... is too high. probably my least favorite album from Helloween.
My God-Given Right is not so bad. I thought it's a fun listen.
Also I think Walls of Jericho is better (for lack of a better word) than anything they did with Andi Deris, also quite ground-breaking (IMO) when it came out.
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majormalfunction
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Written by JoHn Doe on 08.02.2024 at 11:16
Rabbit... is too high. probably my least favorite album from Helloween.
My God-Given Right is not so bad. I thought it's a fun listen.
Also I think Walls of Jericho is better (for lack of a better word) than anything they did with Andi Deris, also quite ground-breaking (IMO) when it came out.
I love Walls of Jericho and would like to have rated it higher but I think the songs by Weikath aren't that great, they're solid but not as brilliant as the ones by Kai.
Oh, Rabbit as their worst? I think most of the songs on it are good and often better than that. Compared to most of their later albums which have a lot of songs I can't remember a single note from
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JoHn Doe
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Written by majormalfunction on 08.02.2024 at 12:47
Written by JoHn Doe on 08.02.2024 at 11:16
Rabbit... is too high. probably my least favorite album from Helloween.
My God-Given Right is not so bad. I thought it's a fun listen.
Also I think Walls of Jericho is better (for lack of a better word) than anything they did with Andi Deris, also quite ground-breaking (IMO) when it came out.
I love Walls of Jericho and would like to have rated it higher but I think the songs by Weikath aren't that great, they're solid but not as brilliant as the ones by Kai.
Oh, Rabbit as their worst? I think most of the songs on it are good and often better than that. Compared to most of their later albums which have a lot of songs I can't remember a single note from ![](/images/smilies/smiley.gif)
I gave it another chance recently, very tedious, nothing special for me. Gambling... was a grower, go figure.
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A Real Mönkey
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Keeper of the Seven Keys are easily top two.
Everything else can get bent.
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JoHn Doe
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Written by A Real Mönkey on 08.02.2024 at 19:44
Keeper of the Seven Keys are easily top two.
Everything else can get bent.
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That's a bit harsh.
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majormalfunction
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Written by A Real Mönkey on 08.02.2024 at 19:44
Keeper of the Seven Keys are easily top two.
Everything else can get bent.
Whatever
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Redel ModeratorPosts: 2190 ![](/images/avatars/1/144621) |
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I definitely agree with My God-Given Right's rank. As for the rest, they have a lot of ok-ish albums with largely arbitrary mid-field ranks. But I will never understand how people would rank any of their albums higher than Keeper l and ll, Walls Of Jericho, and the s/t EP -- such classic material.
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Guib Thrash Talker
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Written by Redel on 08.02.2024 at 22:11
I definitely agree with My God-Given Right's rank. As for the rest, they have a lot of ok-ish albums with largely arbitrary mid-field ranks. But I will never understand how people would rank any of their albums higher than Keeper l and ll, Walls Of Jericho, and the s/t EP -- such classic material.
I agree with you I simply can't get it. I love Helloween's discography but not seeing the Keepers in 1st and 2nd (whatever the order for those) is fucking puzzling to me.
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majormalfunction
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Written by Redel on 08.02.2024 at 22:11
I definitely agree with My God-Given Right's rank. As for the rest, they have a lot of ok-ish albums with largely arbitrary mid-field ranks. But I will never understand how people would rank any of their albums higher than Keeper l and ll, Walls Of Jericho, and the s/t EP -- such classic material.
Written by Guib on 08.02.2024 at 23:27
I agree with you I simply can't get it. I love Helloween's discography but not seeing the Keepers in 1st and 2nd (whatever the order for those) is fucking puzzling to me.
I understand the love for part 1, that one is amazing for the most part. Very close to a 9 in my book. But I have never understood the praise for part 2. Extremly influential album but for me nothing on side A could be considered great. Side B is a whole lot stronger but it's too little too late. Back in the beginning Kai was a incredibly gifted writer but neither Weikath or Kiske wasn't that strong at that point, which shows with Keepers 2, where again Kai wrote most of the best material. A bit later in the career Weikath got better along with three other writers (Deris, Kusch and Grapow) who contributed strong all over the albums.
And then there's also Kiske. A occasionally excellent singer but his strong side IMO is singing melodic mid-paced stuff rather than the fast paced power metal. I thought the more rough Deris was a more suitable choice (even if Kai is by far my favourite of the three).
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Rexorcist
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I'm with you on your placement for Better Than Raw. Perfect album IMO. Though you're probably gonna hate me for saying this, but I actually gave their self-titled my number 1 Helloween slot. Excellent recalling of all their stylistic choices over the decades, and very consistent.
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AndyMetalFreak A Nice Guy ContributorPosts: 5146 ![](/images/avatars/3/302093) |
For me Walls Of Jericho would be number one, followed by Keeper I, then Keeper II. No idea how I would rank the rest
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Duck Dodgers
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The Dark Ride above Keeper II ... Sure Jan!
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JoHn Doe
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majormalfunction
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Written by Duck Dodgers on 09.02.2024 at 16:22
The Dark Ride above Keeper II ... Sure Jan! ![](/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
I wouldn't say that's controversial... The Dark Ride is often highly regarded.
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24emd Theory Snob
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Better Than Raw is actually the only album I like from them, outside of a few other songs.
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majormalfunction
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Written by 24emd on 10.02.2024 at 06:47
Better Than Raw is actually the only album I like from them, outside of a few other songs.
Fantastic album. An almost flawless record
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Tom Muller
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Not my ranking
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CWA
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Very unorthodox rating, haha, love it!
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