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01.06.2024 - 20:33Rating: 6
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Written by Cynic Metalhead on 01.06.2024 at 19:23
these young guys on the management level
Thanks for the flowers, Cynic
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Nejde
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Written by Cynic Metalhead on 01.06.2024 at 19:23
these young guys on the management level
Knowing my age I'll take that as a compliment
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John doe
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Written by Majesty1911 on 01.06.2024 at 20:26
Written by John doe on 01.06.2024 at 20:06
The album is not all soft and commercial, in fact there are few songs the band is out of their comfort zone. I for one respect that.
Yes, it is not only soft, but also extremely pretentious and superficially experimental. Awful combination. Don't get me wrong, I love Helloween and I try to be respectful to all musicians because I know how hard it is. But when I hear BS - I call it how it is.
Why is it only "superficially experimental"?!
Extremely pretentious?! Hardly.
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Majesty1911
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01.06.2024 - 21:12Rating: 2
Written by John doe on 01.06.2024 at 20:48
Written by Majesty1911 on 01.06.2024 at 20:26
Written by John doe on 01.06.2024 at 20:06
The album is not all soft and commercial, in fact there are few songs the band is out of their comfort zone. I for one respect that.
Yes, it is not only soft, but also extremely pretentious and superficially experimental. Awful combination. Don't get me wrong, I love Helloween and I try to be respectful to all musicians because I know how hard it is. But when I hear BS - I call it how it is.
Why is it only "superficially experimental"?!
Extremely pretentious?! Hardly.
Yeah, exactly, you didn't know what it's mean too? Okay, I explain, again. But if you only gonna ask how and why - this conversation stops being interesting.
"superficially" - it's when something done on a surface level.
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"experimental" - when band doing something new for them.
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weak attempt of creative writing.
"Extremely" - means - very.
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"pretentious" - when band try to appear as something they aren't.
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maybe you can hear in this album some strange horns, pop-y melodies, unfitting harmonies? All this artsy, pseudo progy stuff? Well, this is it.
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John doe
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Written by Majesty1911 on 01.06.2024 at 21:12
Yeah, exactly, you didn't know what it's mean too? Okay, I explain, again. But if you only gonna ask how and why - this conversation stops being interesting.
"superficially" - it's when something done on a surface level.
+
"experimental" - when band doing something new for them.
=
weak attempt of creative writing.
"Extremely" - means - very.
+
"pretentious" - when band try to appear as something they aren't.
=
maybe you can hear in this album some strange horns, pop-y melodies, unfitting harmonies? All this artsy, pseudo progy stuff? Well, this is it.
Thank you for the redundant English lesson, sorry I asked.
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Majesty1911
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01.06.2024 - 21:30Rating: 2
Written by John doe on 01.06.2024 at 21:21
Written by Majesty1911 on 01.06.2024 at 21:12
Yeah, exactly, you didn't know what it's mean too? Okay, I explain, again. But if you only gonna ask how and why - this conversation stops being interesting.
"superficially" - it's when something done on a surface level.
+
"experimental" - when band doing something new for them.
=
weak attempt of creative writing.
"Extremely" - means - very.
+
"pretentious" - when band try to appear as something they aren't.
=
maybe you can hear in this album some strange horns, pop-y melodies, unfitting harmonies? All this artsy, pseudo progy stuff? Well, this is it.
Thank you for the redundant English lesson, sorry I asked.
I feel sorry for my wasted time, indeed. But why no LOL's this time?
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John doe
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Written by Majesty1911 on 01.06.2024 at 21:30
I feel sorry for my wasted time, indeed. But why no LOL's this time?
No need to be rude, I was only trying to understand your point of view. My mistake, I won't ask you anything anymore...
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Majesty1911
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01.06.2024 - 21:39Rating: 2
Written by John doe on 01.06.2024 at 21:34
Written by Majesty1911 on 01.06.2024 at 21:30
I feel sorry for my wasted time, indeed. But why no LOL's this time?
No need to be rude, I was only trying to understand your point of view. My mistake, I won't ask you anything anymore...
So it's okay being rude yourself first? And now you get sad by getting same treatment? Yes, won't ask me anything anymore!
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John doe
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Written by Majesty1911 on 01.06.2024 at 21:39
Written by John doe on 01.06.2024 at 21:34
Written by Majesty1911 on 01.06.2024 at 21:30
I feel sorry for my wasted time, indeed. But why no LOL's this time?
No need to be rude, I was only trying to understand your point of view. My mistake, I won't ask you anything anymore...
So it's okay being rude yourself first? And now you get sad by getting same treatment? Yes, won't ask me anything anymore!
OK. How was I rude?!
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Majesty1911
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01.06.2024 - 21:47Rating: 2
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A Real Mönkey
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I’m starting to think Majesty doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
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A Real Mönkey
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Written by Majesty1911 on 01.06.2024 at 20:14
Well, I never study butt rock history, so... thanks for info, I guess xD
P.S. It's NOT a Power Metal album! >__<
Except it is though. Just a very soft one. Do you not see the genre tag at the top of the page?
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Majesty1911
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01.06.2024 - 21:55Rating: 2
Written by A Real Mönkey on 01.06.2024 at 21:49
I’m starting to think Majesty doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
What makes you think this way?
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Majesty1911
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01.06.2024 - 21:58Rating: 2
Written by A Real Mönkey on 01.06.2024 at 21:52
Written by Majesty1911 on 01.06.2024 at 20:14
Well, I never study butt rock history, so... thanks for info, I guess xD
P.S. It's NOT a Power Metal album! >__<
Except it is though. Just a very soft one. Do you not see the genre tag at the top of the page?
No it's not and I don't care what "the genre tag at the top of the page" says. Do you hear about critical thinking? Or I will be claimed rude again?
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John doe
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A Real Mönkey
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Written by Majesty1911 on 01.06.2024 at 21:58
Written by A Real Mönkey on 01.06.2024 at 21:52
Written by Majesty1911 on 01.06.2024 at 20:14
Well, I never study butt rock history, so... thanks for info, I guess xD
P.S. It's NOT a Power Metal album! >__<
Except it is though. Just a very soft one. Do you not see the genre tag at the top of the page?
No it's not and I don't care what "the genre tag at the top of the page" says.
That's just on you then, dawg.
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Roman Doez Hallucigenia
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This is a future classic MS thread in the making
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Labelas
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18.06.2024 - 17:30Rating: 5
I have listened this album so many times because i love helloween, but still this album don´t grow on me. Have some good songs like Music, crazy cat or revolution now, but is clearly a downfall
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T. T. B. Dragon
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24.07.2024 - 21:53Rating: 4
I decided to listen to this album to make sure if it was really that bad, when listening to the first minutes of the first track First Time I thought for a moment that the bad reputation of this album was perhaps exaggerated, but after 1:26 minutes everything goes down the drain, and the next two songs are painfully bad, the songwriting is confusing, it feels like a damn bad style salad, the only reasonably decent songs are Crazy Cat, Giants and Music, and on a good day Step Out of Hell, I Believe and Longing, which despite being relatively decent songs still has boring parts, and a somewhat questionable duration, most of the songs are at least 5 minutes long, this long duration doesn't seem justified, it's more like sausage stuffing.
I see people complaining about the length of Keepers I, but it's better to have a really good, short-lived album than one like this full of bad songs. Sometimes I think “How did they have the courage to release this and still insist on doing a tour focused on most of these songs?, as the album was hated by Keepers fans and did very poorly commercially”. I don't know what went through Weikath's head for him to think that this was good, he was probably on Kiske's wavelength, who is a guy who never really liked metal, it's really impressive how a band can release something as good as Walls Of Jericho or Keepers and then this, the bad reputation of this is justified, the album may not be unlistenable, but it is far from good.
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Moonfog
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07.12.2024 - 16:55Rating: 6
Not that bad, some songs are ok (giants, music, i believe). But the whole album as a very different feeling than the regular helloween style, it´s a lot slower and rockish, i would say more into the hard rock spectrum. Still, it´s worth a listen.
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