Written by M C Vice on 14.02.2012 at 10:48

Actually, there's a few. But I've only been vocal about one. So far.

Okay, which are the others? I am just wondering. At times I am not happy with some classifications here on MS either

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 14.02.2012 at 10:51

Written by M C Vice on 14.02.2012 at 10:48

Okay, which are the others? I am just wondering. At times I am not happy with some classifications here on MS either

I'll send a pm.

Written by M C Vice on 14.02.2012 at 10:11

Tarot vs Symphonia).

I don't think Tarot's latest counts, since it was a re-recording of SOI anyway, as changed as the songs may be... also, you like Symphonia over Strato's latest, which makes you the first person I've met who sides with Tolkki

Written by JCJen7 on 14.02.2012 at 04:58

Edit: Oh, and Dave Grohl had this to say about winning the award..."I feel so bad for the Dream Theater guy, because they actually had a metal performance, we didn't..."

You guys[psko!) have taken enough rounds on Dave Grohl?!! eh?! anyways, standing on a "ever-plastic" stupid Grammy's podium...he was really proud of it that his new album was made in a garage. After all, their producer is a old Nirvana man...and grunge stuff hasn't faded yet...he should thank Kurt Cobain for this. But now, they are Grammy winner...they can whine about anyone.

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 14.02.2012 at 19:14


You guys[psko!) have taken enough rounds on Dave Grohl?!! eh?! anyways, standing on a "ever-plastic" stupid Grammy's podium...he was really proud of it that his new album was made in a garage. After all, their producer is a old Nirvana man...and grunge stuff hasn't faded yet...he should thank Kurt Cobain for this. But now, they are Grammy winner...they can whine about anyone.

*smiles and nods*

Written by Milena on 14.02.2012 at 18:51

Written by M C Vice on 14.02.2012 at 10:11

Tarot vs Symphonia).

I don't think Tarot's latest counts, since it was a re-recording of SOI anyway, as changed as the songs may be... also, you like Symphonia over Strato's latest, which makes you the first person I've met who sides with Tolkki

Havn't got any Stratovarius and I found Symphonia in the shops (unlike Stratovarius).
Tarot are still elegable though, right?

Written by M C Vice on 15.02.2012 at 06:34

Tarot are still elegable though, right?

Well, it kinda doesn't make sense to vote for a remake for a best NEW album... they are different but those are still the same songs as they were on the original Spell Of Iron

I noticed like only 15 people have Dirge Elysian Magnetic Fields. There are over 600 votes in the post-metal catagory. The odds aren't in favor for my FAVORITE album of 2011

Written by tea[m]ster on 16.02.2012 at 00:40

I noticed like only 15 people have Dirge Elysian Magnetic Fields. There are over 600 votes in the post-metal catagory. The odds aren't in favor for my FAVORITE album of 2011

I have the same problem with Lazuli in prog, actually

Who cares if your favourite album doesn't win. As llong as it gets exposure.
I really don't get why people get so hung up over the fact that the albums they voted for didn't win/

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 16.02.2012 at 01:01

Who cares if your favourite album doesn't win. As llong as it gets exposure.
I really don't get why people get so hung up over the fact that the albums they voted for didn't win/

if an unknown, i agree. i routinely cast my vote for bands that end up in the 7-10 slot once results are published. i've cast 9 votes, of which i think two might/should win, a couple will finish middle of the pack, and most at the tail-end.

i can see getting "upset" if some lame band wins because of a name over a far more deserving band thanks to a massive last minute push or something. but for the most part the results are obvious and inevitable.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 16.02.2012 at 01:01

Who cares if your favourite album doesn't win. As llong as it gets exposure.
I really don't get why people get so hung up over the fact that the albums they voted for didn't win/

I'm only expecting one of my votes to win (chthonic). Thought Fleshgod Apocalypse might untill I saw Vader in the nominees.

Written by Darkside Momo on 16.02.2012 at 00:48

I have the same problem with Lazuli in prog, actually

Almost feel hopeless, but Marcel is right: at least the exposure is there!

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 16.02.2012 at 01:01

Who cares if your favourite album doesn't win. As llong as it gets exposure.
I really don't get why people get so hung up over the fact that the albums they voted for didn't win/

OMG, a glass-half-full comment from Marcel! But I do agree with you on 85% of that comment. The other 15% of me wants to beat my chest and say "I told you so, this cd rocks!"

Well, out of 30 votes..if my 7 votes are considered to be a winner...then probably i will jump from houses to houses in a nerdy celebration that alteast i thought of something winning out of my exact votes. Not like a bitch sitting on a softy bed crying/ whining that i casted my vote in this and fuck! it doesn't come out as a winner. Totally shit.

Written by Milena on 15.02.2012 at 12:40

Written by M C Vice on 15.02.2012 at 06:34

Tarot are still elegable though, right?

Well, it kinda doesn't make sense to vote for a remake for a best NEW album... they are different but those are still the same songs as they were on the original Spell Of Iron

But by that logic (albeit a streching of it) Northern Kings would never be eligable because they have no original songs. Spell Of Iron MMXI was a studio album of new recordings and is listed as a proper album here, so I'll assume it's elegable unless someone can find the rule that disqualifies it. I'm still not sure which to vote for, but I'm leaning towards Tarot (In Paradisia is just so purple! The cover looks like something from Prince.)

And can someone remind me a day or two before voting closes to cast my doom vote. (Omit's Repose and Ixion's To The Viod). I may have to toss a coin on this one.

Written by M C Vice on 16.02.2012 at 11:40

But by that logic (albeit a streching of it) Northern Kings would never be eligable because they have no original songs.

Well you're right, they probably wouldn't

Damn, we need more subdivisions in death metal this year. I'm in a real struggle.
We 've got the doomy death releases from Sonne Adam, Cianide, Vallenfyre, Necros Christos etc...
We've got the more technicals: Benighted, Origin, Fleshgod Apocalypse, Obscura etc...
The old schools: Disma, Miasmal, Morbus Chron, Bastard Priest etc...
The casuals: Vader, Demonical, Vomitory, Hate Eternal etc...
The blackened ones: Azarath, Belphegor, Panzerchrist etc...
The specials: The Rotted, Ouroboros, Ulcerate, Mitochondrion etc...
I can't choose between subgenres, let alone between bands.

Does biggest letdown have to be an album?
Oh, and somehow Lacuna Coil's new album has been nominated in both biggest letdown and biggest surprise.

Written by M C Vice on 18.02.2012 at 08:34

Does biggest letdown have to be an album?
Oh, and somehow Lacuna Coil's new album has been nominated in both biggest letdown and biggest surprise.

Letdown doesn't have to be an album.

And it is possible that f.e. gets nominated in biggest letdwon and biggest surprise. One person't letdwon might be another's surprise. And tbh surprise doesn't always have to be positive.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.02.2012 at 12:23

Written by M C Vice on 18.02.2012 at 08:34

Does biggest letdown have to be an album?
Oh, and somehow Lacuna Coil's new album has been nominated in both biggest letdown and biggest surprise.

And it is possible that f.e. gets nominated in biggest letdwon and biggest surprise. One person't letdwon might be another's surprise. And tbh surprise doesn't always have to be positive.

I mean Dark Adrenaline was released this year. So it shouldn't be in the 2011 awards. At least two idiots don't know that the year changed a month and a half ago.
(if the letdown or suprise was it not being released last year, then I retract the idiot comment.)

Biggest Letdown ever: Metallica - Lulu

Written by [user id=114505] on 18.02.2012 at 16:06

Biggest Letdown ever: Metallica - Lulu

So, you actually originally expected it to be good?

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.02.2012 at 16:07

Written by [user id=114505] on 18.02.2012 at 16:06

Biggest Letdown ever: Metallica - Lulu

So, you actually originally expected it to be good?

Before the first song came out... Yeah.

Written by [user id=114505] on 18.02.2012 at 16:09

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.02.2012 at 16:07

Written by [user id=114505] on 18.02.2012 at 16:06

Biggest Letdown ever: Metallica - Lulu

So, you actually originally expected it to be good?

Before the first song came out... Yeah.

You didn't knew it before the making of "Lulu"??

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 18.02.2012 at 21:32

You didn't knew it before the making of "Lulu"??

No, I just knew that the album was a collaboration between Metallica and Lou Reed.

Written by [user id=114505] on 19.02.2012 at 03:22

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 18.02.2012 at 21:32

You didn't knew it before the making of "Lulu"??

No, I just knew that the album was a collaboration between Metallica and Lou Reed.

Man, the moment i came to know that Lou is collaborating with Metallica...instantly i came to know it gonna be weak record/ crappy slow Rock record. I think when they announced the title "Lulu" only few days after their first track was on internet. Anyways, LULU can be awarded in"Record never made" crap.

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 19.02.2012 at 11:27

Man, the moment i came to know that Lou is collaborating with Metallica...instantly i came to know it gonna be weak record/ crappy slow Rock record.

I never listened to Lou Reed before this colaboration, but I already knew him, of course. That's why I didn't expected nothing out of this world.

In the final, I was wrong...

Written by [user id=114505] on 19.02.2012 at 16:18

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 19.02.2012 at 11:27

Man, the moment i came to know that Lou is collaborating with Metallica...instantly i came to know it gonna be weak record/ crappy slow Rock record.

I never listened to Lou Reed before this colaboration, but I already knew him, of course. That's why I didn't expected nothing out of this world.

In the final, I was wrong...

So, it should gonna go in Biggest Surprise or Letdown??

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 19.02.2012 at 16:37

Written by [user id=114505] on 19.02.2012 at 16:18

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 19.02.2012 at 11:27

Man, the moment i came to know that Lou is collaborating with Metallica...instantly i came to know it gonna be weak record/ crappy slow Rock record.

I never listened to Lou Reed before this colaboration, but I already knew him, of course. That's why I didn't expected nothing out of this world.

In the final, I was wrong...

So, it should gonna go in Biggest Surprise or Letdown??

At first I expected something at least enjoyable from Metallica... Maybe another Load or Reload.

BUT I SUCKS!

So I voted Lulu for the biggest letdow. I don't have a album to put under Biggest Surprise yet... Nothing this year was a great surprise (for me).