Milena gloom cookie StaffPosts: 4603 |
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Written by [user id=4365] on 05.12.2011 at 13:18
Not in the slightest. You're thinking in a very Metal-centric manner. Don't assume this is exclusively marketed at such an audience. Tangerine Dream, Emeralds and Burning Star Core, and probably some of the others, are well established names in their fields. Just because someone lives on a diet of a few tropes of metal styles doesn't instantly vilify alien-sounding artists as fodder for "coolness". It's not his fault if he's writing about stuff you've never heard of. To him they may be day-to-day thoughts and occurrences like "x-prog metal band" might be to you.
I was more thinking about the manner of writing, as in screaming "I'm in a niche, I'm in a niche!", because you can't deny that, even if those are very familiar names in their fields, it still is a reasonably small field. It sends a message of "this is not for you, get off my playground." Though, this is all coming from a girl who imagines words as little people with all kinds of features, moving along their merry ways and arguing, so I might be slightly out of line
Not that I'm against this, I think it's a wonderful idea. It's very amusing to think that, while we argue about the finesses of metal genres and the prowess of certain artists on this and similar forums, there are people out there who couldn't tell doom metal apart from death metal, metalhead from a goth and who'd be quite baffled to be present at even one metal gig or metalheads' gathering. It only occurred to me in the past few months that there is a myriad of other genres completely out the "mainstream's" grasp as well. Maybe we should all have some tea and rock out together, so a metal artist doing a piece of experimental music certainly gets kudos from me.
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jupitreas hi-fi / lo-life StaffPosts: 6660 |
Actually, way more people know about Tangerine Dream (a completely legendary band that had an impact on more genres than I can name) than most black metal bands. Ambient music is nothing new and its also nothing new for metal musicians to tackle this style.
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Milena gloom cookie StaffPosts: 4603 |
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Written by jupitreas on 05.12.2011 at 13:49
Actually, way more people know about Tangerine Dream (a completely legendary band that had an impact on more genres than I can name) than most black metal bands. Ambient music is nothing new and its also nothing new for metal musicians to tackle this style.
Yeah, they're the only band out of this bunch I've heard of, so I guess that's the case with a lot of people. And mind you, although it's "nothing new" to people who follow the underground circles, there's quite a few metalheads and other alternative music lovers who still haven't heard the impact on this genre on their most beloved type of music. I still haven't figured out where is the line that separates "music with ambiance" and purely ambient music.
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Introspekrieg Totemic Lust ElitePosts: 2749 |
Written by jupitreas on 05.12.2011 at 13:49
Actually, way more people know about Tangerine Dream (a completely legendary band that had an impact on more genres than I can name) than most black metal bands. Ambient music is nothing new and its also nothing new for metal musicians to tackle this style.
Yes, I don't know many black metal bands that have done music for Tom Cruise films.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18439 |
05.12.2011 - 19:07Rating: 7
Pretty sweet stuff though, I almost wanted to buy it but meh, it's vinyl so I would buy it and couldn't play it
Edit: Fuck it, the artwork is cute so I'm going to buy it. It's cheap.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by X-Ray Rod on 05.12.2011 at 19:07 Edit: Fuck it, the artwork is cute so I'm going to buy it. It's cheap.
Happy to hear you caved.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18439 |
05.12.2011 - 19:53Rating: 7
Written by Troy Killjoy on 05.12.2011 at 19:45
Written by X-Ray Rod on 05.12.2011 at 19:07 Edit: Fuck it, the artwork is cute so I'm going to buy it. It's cheap.
Happy to hear you caved.
Yeah, when I read the part that said "when you buy the vinyl you get a download link" all my doubts went away.
Now just hoping my copy will arrive fine. I'm quite the pessimistic fuck so I just can't wait to get it.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by X-Ray Rod on 05.12.2011 at 19:53 I'm quite the pessimistic fuck so I just can't wait to get it.
Did you read the description of what's inside? It looks like a really sweet package when all's said and done, especially for such a low price. For a hand-numbered limited edition solo single from John Haughm. It doesn't get much better than that.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18439 |
05.12.2011 - 20:32Rating: 7
Written by Troy Killjoy on 05.12.2011 at 19:54 Did you read the description of what's inside? It looks like a really sweet package when all's said and done, especially for such a low price. For a hand-numbered limited edition solo single from John Haughm. It doesn't get much better than that.
It's pretty nice for the price although I can't stop laughing at the fact that it costs me more the shipping than the single itself.
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Written by BloodTears on 19.08.2011 at 18:29 Like you could kiss my ass
Written by Milena on 20.06.2012 at 10:49 Rod, let me love you.
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Slayer666
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A 300 word review for 5 minutes of music. Well done, Troy, you've outdone yourself.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by Slayer666 on 05.12.2011 at 20:36 A 300 word review for 5 minutes of music. Well done, Troy, you've outdone yourself.
Thanks! I was honestly surprised at how much I was able to write about one 5-minute song. I guess it practically wrote itself.
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Merchant of Doom
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Now, let's get a grip. It's pretty decent, but it's something we already heard in the '70s... (yes, I'm old), so, I don't really see the point of it. Or, yes, he is entitled to revisit some old crap, but just don't get your violins out...
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by Merchant of Doom on 06.12.2011 at 00:34 Now, let's get a grip.
So much for not commenting. >>
I don't think anyone needs to get a grip to be honest. It's a very good single from a musician who has obviously stepped out of what he's renowned for. My rating isn't too high (at least I don't think it is) and the majority of people here think of it as a beautiful song. It's not like this is receiving the same kind of attention Wintersun did with their debut.
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Merchant of Doom
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Yes, I wasn't going to comment, but I just can't believe that such a derivative piece of music is getting so much praise. Yes, it's a good "song", 35 years too late. Now, Mr Haughm can revisit all he likes, stepping out of his usual boundaries, but it's still something pretty boring, unless you like to be hypnotized.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by Merchant of Doom on 06.12.2011 at 10:10 ...but it's still something pretty boring, unless you like to be hypnotized.
Ignoring the word song in quotes... I'd say it looks like a lot of people enjoy being hypnotized then.
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Saeed_p
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Cant believe that! it was the biggest surprise for me to see this topic!
and also its great!
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by Saeed_p on 06.12.2011 at 10:17 Cant believe that! it was the biggest surprise for me to see this topic!
and also its great!
I was surprised when I received the review request in my inbox.
I was like... John Haughm? Solo project? Ambient music? Color me excited.
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Saeed_p
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so screwy! i think someone who pm you to write a request knew that you know you'r stuff !
+1
its seems just an ambient music. i hope the rest of tracks be a more metal than this.:)
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by Saeed_p on 06.12.2011 at 10:29 so screwy! i think someone who pm you to write a request knew that you know you'r stuff !
its seems just an ambient music. i hope the rest of tracks be a more metal than this.:)
Well it's nice to feel like you've got some knowledge sometimes.
As for releasing metal material, I highly doubt he'll be doing that with his solo project. He's already got Agalloch to vent his metal creativity; I think this is designed to help him release some more of his artistic thoughts that wouldn't be suitable for the sound of Agalloch.
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Saeed_p
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Maybe you're right. and this genre is going to be awesome ; but we know many artist and band that performs this kind of music! (ex: Voidwork) i expected more than this from haughm even in this particular genre ( that is so sensitive to peform in its best way)
sorry for my bad english, english is not my native (original) language.
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koob
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Where can I listen to this ? can't find any place.
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Merchant of Doom
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Merchant of Doom
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Written by koob on 06.12.2011 at 13:06
Written by Merchant of Doom on 06.12.2011 at 12:17
Written by koob on 06.12.2011 at 11:45
Where can I listen to this ? can't find any place.
here...
http://anthemrecords.bandcamp.com/
the link was in the review... not very visible, though...
Ok i'm embarassed
yes, maybe you should change your user name to knoob... only joking...
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by Saeed_p on 06.12.2011 at 10:39 i expected more than this from haughm even in this particular genre
Oh I'm sure he'll have something more to contribute soon. Don't forget, this is only a single - one five-minute song. If he releases a full-length I'm positive there will be more experimentation.
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Merchant of Doom
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 06.12.2011 at 18:59
If he releases a full-length I'm positive there will be more experimentation.
Hopefully of the right type...
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Susan Smeghead ElitePosts: 6941 |
06.12.2011 - 20:11Rating: 8
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It was fun reading all the comments and seeing so many of you boys getting all weepy about this music And of course anything that inspires Troy to write such beautiful descriptions is worth hearing. I love Agalloch, of course, but even if I didn't I'd be totally hooked just from reading this review.
I think it goes without saying, I just ordered my copy.
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Dechef
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Well, well! Thank you for this link, I didn't even find the piece itself all that fantastic. But I do love this TYPE of music and so I checked out a few of the names mentioned in the link, that are supposed to be similar, like Tangerine Dream, and I think I'm falling in love with them somewhere around... now.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by Dechef on 07.12.2011 at 00:30 Well, well! Thank you for this link, I didn't even find the piece itself all that fantastic. But I do love this TYPE of music and so I checked out a few of the names mentioned in the link, that are supposed to be similar, like Tangerine Dream, and I think I'm falling in love with them somewhere around... now.
I'm sure John Haughm is satisfied with helping people open their minds to different forms of music.
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LordFezzington Lost To Apathy
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Having been on a bit of a spending spree recently, I was only too pleased to make this purchase. Limited to 500 copies? What possible reason is there not to buy it?!
Thanks for the heads up Troy!
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