angel. Evil Butterfly
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06.09.2014 - 16:14Rating: 7
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I haven't heard the whole album yet, I checked one song out of it, their music was good enough and the vocals sounded really bad, they don't fit the music in my opinion. I already read two very long reviews on this album, does this album have really such great number of aspects to talk about them in details ? Or it's people getting too excited about their fav artist ?
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Written by angel. on 06.09.2014 at 16:14
Or it's people getting too excited about their fav artist ?
This!
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Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight
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Written by angel. on 06.09.2014 at 16:14
I haven't heard the whole album yet, I checked one song out of it, their music was good enough and the vocals sounded really bad, they don't fit the music in my opinion. I already read two very long reviews on this album, does this album have really such great number of aspects to talk about them in details ? Or it's people getting too excited about their fav artist ?
I do agree that the vocalist isn't that good but I feel that he can channel emotion really well. Kinda like Kurt Cobain of Nirvana. Both the vocals and music has a really melancholic feel to them so they fit. It kinda makes you imagine that you're that old man in the cover, looking out into the sea, wondering why oh why did life take you to where you are now if if you could have done anything differently.
Cool stuff but I'm surprised on how many people are liking this.
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angel. Evil Butterfly
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06.09.2014 - 17:41Rating: 7
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Written by [user id=126528] on 06.09.2014 at 17:02
I do agree that the vocalist isn't that good but I feel that he can channel emotion really well. Kinda like Kurt Cobain of Nirvana. Both the vocals and music has a really melancholic feel to them so they fit. It kinda makes you imagine that you're that old man in the cover, looking out into the sea, wondering why oh why did life take you to where you are now if if you could have done anything differently.
Cool stuff but I'm surprised on how many people are liking this.
Then I need to listen the whole album, I discussed the same thing about vocals with another metal fellow, he also had the same opinion as yours :" although the vocals are bad but they're fitting into the whole atmosphere of music", however, we agreed that the vocals are somehow false!
Yeah, there is a great of deal of good feedback to this album.
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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06.09.2014 - 18:27Rating: 8
Written by angel. on 06.09.2014 at 17:41
Written by [user id=126528] on 06.09.2014 at 17:02
I do agree that the vocalist isn't that good but I feel that he can channel emotion really well. Kinda like Kurt Cobain of Nirvana. Both the vocals and music has a really melancholic feel to them so they fit. It kinda makes you imagine that you're that old man in the cover, looking out into the sea, wondering why oh why did life take you to where you are now if if you could have done anything differently.
Cool stuff but I'm surprised on how many people are liking this.
Then I need to listen the whole album, I discussed the same thing about vocals with another metal fellow, he also had the same opinion as yours :" although the vocals are bad but they're fitting into the whole atmosphere of music", however, we agreed that the vocals are somehow false!
Yeah, there is a great of deal of good feedback to this album.
There is palpable "awesome music, but awful vocals" syndrome we always acquaint now and then. Yeah, vocals does sound offbeat but who gives a shit if music is awesome? Eh?
This disc is still playing on my pad and I really do not see any distraction of awful vocals ruining awesome music. Pretty good record.
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angel. Evil Butterfly
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06.09.2014 - 20:23Rating: 7
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Written by Cynic Metalhead on 06.09.2014 at 18:27
There is palpable "awesome music, but awful vocals" syndrome we always acquaint now and then. Yeah, vocals does sound offbeat but who gives a shit if music is awesome? Eh?
I certainly give shit to vocals ! It's a big part of the music, one of the reasons I could never relate to some bands like Inquisition or Tool was that the vocalists were somehow annoying to me.
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Still gotta check this one out!
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Boxcar Willy yr a kook
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09.09.2014 - 06:52Rating: 9
I listen to too much shitty emo music for the vocals to bother me at all. I didn't even consider them to be bad when listened.
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Risto Wandering Midget
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09.09.2014 - 09:20Rating: 8
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Written by Reaper_Redeemer on 05.09.2014 at 21:40
I don't know by what means people here in ms categorize both solstafir and ahab as post-metal. I believe it worths of discussion.
Some of the claims Solstafir aren't post-metal might come from people who are sort of stuck in the past. The origins are in sludge bands like Neurosis and Isis, but post-metal has developed further now. I find post-metal/rock to be a descriptor of certain musical elements that isn't tied to a subgenre.
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Reaper_Redeemer
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09.09.2014 - 15:41Rating: 7
Written by Risto on 09.09.2014 at 09:20
sort of stuck in the past.
Well, that is not the occasion.
Written by Risto on 09.09.2014 at 09:20
I find post-metal/rock to be a descriptor of certain musical elements that isn't tied to a subgenre.
Like?
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Risto Wandering Midget
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09.09.2014 - 16:04Rating: 8
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Written by Reaper_Redeemer on 09.09.2014 at 15:41
Written by Risto on 09.09.2014 at 09:20
I find post-metal/rock to be a descriptor of certain musical elements that isn't tied to a subgenre.
Like?
Often attributed simplistic "rifflessness" and building up a musical theme to a crescendo. "Svartir Sandar" is a good example.
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Reaper_Redeemer
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09.09.2014 - 20:13Rating: 7
Written by Risto on 09.09.2014 at 16:04
Written by Reaper_Redeemer on 09.09.2014 at 15:41
Written by Risto on 09.09.2014 at 09:20
I find post-metal/rock to be a descriptor of certain musical elements that isn't tied to a subgenre.
Like?
Often attributed simplistic "rifflessness" and building up a musical theme to a crescendo. "Svartir Sandar" is a good example.
04:13 you can find a post element here. But the magic word here is "element". An element in a song. Is this categorizing their genre?
"building up a musical theme to a crescendo" this is not only post's characteristic. Also simplistic "rifflessness" is a common attribute of sludge. There is a thin line that divides our opinions but what I believe is that it is risky to call it post, better use even "alternative" as a title which is a general umbrella that can cover it.
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Risto Wandering Midget
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09.09.2014 - 21:10Rating: 8
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Written by Reaper_Redeemer on 09.09.2014 at 20:13
04:13 you can find a post element here. But the magic word here is "element". An element in a song. Is this categorizing their genre?
I think this sums up our difference of view quite well, because that song has a classic post-rock finish riding the chord progression initiated at 3:28. You're correct about the element, but it's not the big picture at all. Neurosis have done it, Ghost Brigade and Agalloch have done it... even Anathema is strongly influenced by post-rock these days.
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Alex F
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12.09.2014 - 22:47Rating: 8
This album is just so damn beautiful. Would have enjoyed a more psychedelic aspects, but that's about the only complaint I have
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Written by Alex F on 12.09.2014 at 22:47
This album is just so damn beautiful. Would have enjoyed a more psychedelic aspects, but that's about the only complaint I have
I haven't listened to this yet, but the psychedelic aspect was pretty much why I loved previous albums. Thinking I might not like it so much now.
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Sword_Chant
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13.09.2014 - 17:26Rating: 9
Written by [user id=4365] on 12.09.2014 at 22:51
Written by Alex F on 12.09.2014 at 22:47
This album is just so damn beautiful. Would have enjoyed a more psychedelic aspects, but that's about the only complaint I have
I haven't listened to this yet, but the psychedelic aspect was pretty much why I loved previous albums. Thinking I might not like it so much now.
If you liked their older stuff you'll like this, it's a bit different but still very much Solstafir. Imo this is one of 2014's better albums
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Written by Sword_Chant on 13.09.2014 at 17:26
If you liked their older stuff you'll like this, it's a bit different but still very much Solstafir. Imo this is one of 2014's better albums
I'll aim to listen to it today at some point
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M C Vice ex-polydactyl
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23.09.2014 - 10:38Rating: 7
Some parts remind me of Kauan, while the start of Miðaftann reminds me of SubRosa's No Safe Harbour.
Will I get yelled at if I say I think this's overrated?
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Ilham Giant robot
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23.09.2014 - 14:01Rating: 5
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Written by M C Vice on 23.09.2014 at 10:38 Will I get yelled at if I say I think this's overrated?
Strength in numbers, hide behind me while I say half the album is boring.
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Boxcar Willy yr a kook
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23.09.2014 - 19:00Rating: 9
Written by M C Vice on 23.09.2014 at 10:38
Will I get yelled at if I say I think this's overrated?
YES.
Naw, I can see why people wouldn't enjoy this as much as I do, but I think this is a really strong release.
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M C Vice ex-polydactyl
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24.09.2014 - 09:46Rating: 7
Written by Ilham on 23.09.2014 at 14:01
Written by M C Vice on 23.09.2014 at 10:38 Will I get yelled at if I say I think this's overrated?
Strength in numbers, hide behind me while I say half the album is boring.
Surely I should be hiding you with my massive 63kg frame. (no, I didn't call you Shirley, someone will say that, so I'll get in 1st)
I wouldn't really say boring, more like it sounds like its building to something but that something never comes. I've only listened to it once, though, so maybe it'll get better.
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"I'm here to nunchuck and not wear helmets. And I'm all out of helmets."
"I'll fight you on one condition. That you lower your nipples."
" 'Tis a lie! Thy backside is whole and ungobbled, thou ungrateful whelp!"
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Ilham Giant robot
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24.09.2014 - 11:38Rating: 5
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Written by M C Vice on 24.09.2014 at 09:46 Surely I should be hiding you with my massive 63kg frame. (no, I didn't call you Shirley, someone will say that, so I'll get in 1st)
I wouldn't really say boring, more like it sounds like its building to something but that something never comes. I've only listened to it once, though, so maybe it'll get better.
Well I am serious, why would you call me Shirley?
You're right, I was harsh. You expressed what I meant by "boring".
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M C Vice ex-polydactyl
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25.09.2014 - 11:31Rating: 7
The last of the bonus tracks was really good. They came on one of those mini cds, too. Never had one of them before.
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"I'm here to nunchuck and not wear helmets. And I'm all out of helmets."
"I'll fight you on one condition. That you lower your nipples."
" 'Tis a lie! Thy backside is whole and ungobbled, thou ungrateful whelp!"
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Maco Pvt Funderground
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I found my album of the year!!! The singer reminds me of Bono sometimes, but with more passion.
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Karlabos
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27.09.2014 - 23:30Rating: 9
Written by Maco on 27.09.2014 at 23:11
The singer reminds me of Bono
How so?
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Written by Karlabos on 27.09.2014 at 23:30
Written by Maco on 27.09.2014 at 23:11
The singer reminds me of Bono
How so?
The way he sings in Nattmal for example. When I heard it the first thing in my head was: "Bono"
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Its true. When I was listening to this, my brother came in and thought I was listening to the new U2 album.
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Karlabos
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27.09.2014 - 23:46Rating: 9
Written by [user id=126528] on 27.09.2014 at 23:41
Its true. When I was listening to this, my brother came in and thought I was listening to the new U2 album.
Which you happen to have on your apple ipod btw
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Written by Karlabos on 27.09.2014 at 23:46
Written by [user id=126528] on 27.09.2014 at 23:41
Its true. When I was listening to this, my brother came in and thought I was listening to the new U2 album.
Which you happen to have on your apple ipod btw
Actually I don't believe it or not
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M C Vice ex-polydactyl
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30.09.2014 - 04:00Rating: 7
What style do the 1st 2 bonus tracks count as? I can hear bits of black, thrash, heavy metal and hardcore in there.
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"I'm here to nunchuck and not wear helmets. And I'm all out of helmets."
"I'll fight you on one condition. That you lower your nipples."
" 'Tis a lie! Thy backside is whole and ungobbled, thou ungrateful whelp!"
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