Pink Floyd

Written by AndyMetalFreak on 19.11.2021 at 08:23

Written by No False Steele on 18.11.2021 at 22:57


I like them both as songwriters, they were in the same band and they can write so different sounding songs, that maybe also caused some beef between them. I agree about the Final Cut, it had some misses and Water's songs weren't all very good on the Wall either. The band couldn't be a one man's effort.

They are great songwriters indeed, but let's not forget about their co-founder Syd Barrett, his lyrics on Piper At The Gates Of Dawn, are just legendary! I laugh everytime I hear "Bike", and Interstellar Overdrive which has to be one of the most trippy and fun songs to listen to of all time, you just can't imagine music made in such a way now.

Syd Barrett was definitely a master artist no matter what happened to him with LSD. I would've never ended up listening to Pink Floyd if I hadn't heard about Syd on the "Lord of the flies" episode of X-Files. I don't consider Piper At The Gates Of Dawn as one of their of their masterpieces, but Syd had a huge impact on many people and when reading online, he has lots of fans to this day. It was good to see the band doing tributes to him on the later albums.

Several years ago, when I was still in school, my father was working on the car outside one evening. He had the car CD player on and it was playing such beautiful slow music, endless songs that blended into each other. The music totally captured me. It was a totally pleasant mood that it awakened. I asked him what he was listening to. It was Pink Floyd's Wish you were here. Even though I don't listen to this album that often, usually preferring faster music like metal, I am sometimes in the mood for it and then really love it. It belongs to my all time favorites. A top album for me. I haven't heard several Pink Floyd albums yet, but this thread reminds me that I should listen to other stuff from them again. I also know the Wall, of which I was slightly disappointed. Not that it's a bad album, but I kind of expected something different, especially since it's so highly praised. After listening to it several times, I thought it was good, but not quite as much as Wish you...I also heard an old record (vinyl!) from my father, kind of a best of, I guess. Perhaps I should listen to the albums which were published before and after wish you were here.

So why exactly is Pink Floyd not added to MS when even f*king Rush is on here?

Written by Jack_Torrance on 04.05.2022 at 12:13

So why exactly is Pink Floyd not added to MS when even f*king Rush is on here?

The subject of adding Pink Floyd to the MS database seems to have been an on going matter of debate since I first joined, I think if all the users were to have a vote on whether to add them or not, it would literally come down to the wire, maybe a borderline decision would have to be made by the staff. I for one though wouldn't mind see them on here, especially with King Crimson already bring here, who's influence (imho) plays an equal part, but then there are others that would always argue that Pink Floyd haven't had enough influence on metal.

And I don't mean to sound controversial or anything, but if The Doors are on listed on the database (which i'm really glad to see by the way), then maybe Pink Floyd could be?

Written by AndyMetalFreak on 04.05.2022 at 13:21

And I don't mean to sound controversial or anything, but if The Doors are on listed on the database (which i'm really glad to see by the way), then maybe Pink Floyd could be?

I can see the argument for having Rush but not Pink Floyd personally. Most Pink Floyd barely breaks out of a walking pace.

I'm sure there are some metal musicians who were influenced by them, I just don't see how they influenced metal itself. Even for genres like progressive-metal I don't see any parallels.

I don't get why The Doors would be included either though to be honest. Even at their most rockin' on tracks like 'Break on Through' or 'Roundhouse Blues' I don't see how they influenced metal.

Written by gavdann on 06.05.2022 at 14:48

I can see the argument for having Rush but not Pink Floyd personally. Most Pink Floyd barely breaks out of a walking pace.

I'm sure there are some metal musicians who were influenced by them, I just don't see how they influenced metal itself. Even for genres like progressive-metal I don't see any parallels.

I don't get why The Doors would be included either though to be honest. Even at their most rockin' on tracks like 'Break on Through' or 'Roundhouse Blues' I don't see how they influenced metal.

I would say going way back, Jimi Hendrix was one of the first main influences on metal, with songs like "Purple Haze", which must of sounded really heavy back in it's day. He was probably most important for the development of hard rock, which was then followed by Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and Deep Purple.

But like you said I don't think The Doors, or Pink Floyd had much influence on metal as such, I personally think that Cream could of had just as much influence on metal than those, with being a psychedelic rock band, but then The Who is also on the database, which I suppose had an influence on punk in a way.

Written by AndyMetalFreak on 06.05.2022 at 16:00

but then The Who is also on the database, which I suppose had an influence on punk in a way.

The Who were very popular with the mod/northern soul crowd, I'm not sure they were with the punks. By '76/'77 The Who were boring old dad-rock, whereas the Punks (in the UK at least) were mainly influenced by Bowie.

I get your points about Hendrix and Cream though. There's an argument for them being proto-metal.

You could even argue that the Beatles influenced Metal with Helter Skelter

Written by Jack_Torrance on 15.05.2022 at 20:59

You could even argue that the Beatles influenced Metal with Helter Skelter

As written in the gospel according to Paul McCartney, The Beatles invented everything.

It's kinda true though

Written by gavdann on 17.05.2022 at 13:48

Written by Jack_Torrance on 15.05.2022 at 20:59

You could even argue that the Beatles influenced Metal with Helter Skelter

As written in the gospel according to Paul McCartney, The Beatles invented everything.

I'm sure Elvis Pressley would of had something to say about that, some would even say he invented rock music

Written by AndyMetalFreak on 17.05.2022 at 21:04

Written by gavdann on 17.05.2022 at 13:48

Written by Jack_Torrance on 15.05.2022 at 20:59

You could even argue that the Beatles influenced Metal with Helter Skelter

As written in the gospel according to Paul McCartney, The Beatles invented everything.

I'm sure Elvis Pressley would of had something to say about that, some would even say he invented rock music

And some would say Elvis appropriated his style from the black rock n rollers of the early 50's who came before him.

It's difficult to say for sure who invented what as nearly everything is just a continuation of what came before. Especially in pop music.

One of my fav bands of all time

I think I have to accept that I'm never going to really get Pink Floyd. I've listened to them quite a lot, I guess out of some conviction that they're a great band and there's something to appreciate there. Partly because my late-teens/early-20s favorites (Anathema, Porcupine Tree etc.) were influenced by them. And I did like them, sort of still do.

But meh, I don't know why they're so well-loved over the other prog giants. Compared to their contemporaries, they sound cold, spiritless, and dreary. I'd take organic lushness of Thick as a Brick, the mad ambition of In the Court of the Crimson King, possibly even the cheesy bravado of Close to the Edge and the homely catchiness of Selling England by the Pound, over Pink Floyd any day.

That said, my favorite album of theirs is The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, along with Barrett's The Madcap Laughs. It's not that ambitious or unique, but it has genuine warmth and joy, as opposed to the serious sterility of what followed.

Written by IronAngel on 04.07.2022 at 09:38

I think I have to accept that I'm never going to really get Pink Floyd. I've listened to them quite a lot, I guess out of some conviction that they're a great band and there's something to appreciate there. Partly because my late-teens/early-20s favorites (Anathema, Porcupine Tree etc.) were influenced by them. And I did like them, sort of still do.

But meh, I don't know why they're so well-loved over the other prog giants. Compared to their contemporaries, they sound cold, spiritless, and dreary. I'd take organic lushness of Thick as a Brick, the mad ambition of In the Court of the Crimson King, possibly even the cheesy bravado of Close to the Edge and the homely catchiness of Selling England by the Pound, over Pink Floyd any day.

That said, my favorite album of theirs is The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, along with Barrett's The Madcap Laughs. It's not that ambitious or unique, but it has genuine warmth and joy, as opposed to the serious sterility of what followed.

I can get into PinkFLoyd, but I cant go to Opeth, I dont understand why Opeth they are so popular and famous but I dont feel liking their music.

Written by [user id=329624] on 25.11.2023 at 18:44

Written by IronAngel on 04.07.2022 at 09:38

But meh, I don't know why they're so well-loved over the other prog giants. Compared to their contemporaries, they sound cold, spiritless, and dreary. I'd take organic lushness of Thick as a Brick, the mad ambition of In the Court of the Crimson King, possibly even the cheesy bravado of Close to the Edge and the homely catchiness of Selling England by the Pound, over Pink Floyd any day.

I think that the fact that they sound "cold, spiritless, and dreary" is the exact reason why they were so successful. Very lush and easy to listen in the background - static, without eclectic compositions and arrangements that could potentially turn off someone completely new to the genre. They are basically baby's first sophisticated rock band.

Written by [user id=172292] on 19.07.2022 at 16:53

I can get into PinkFLoyd, but I cant go to Opeth, I dont understand why Opeth they are so popular and famous but I dont feel liking their music.

What's the relevance between them?

Both have progressive metal element.

Written by [user id=172292] on 28.11.2023 at 15:26

Written by [user id=329624] on 25.11.2023 at 18:44

Written by IronAngel on 04.07.2022 at 09:38

But meh, I don't know why they're so well-loved over the other prog giants. Compared to their contemporaries, they sound cold, spiritless, and dreary. I'd take organic lushness of Thick as a Brick, the mad ambition of In the Court of the Crimson King, possibly even the cheesy bravado of Close to the Edge and the homely catchiness of Selling England by the Pound, over Pink Floyd any day.

I think that the fact that they sound "cold, spiritless, and dreary" is the exact reason why they were so successful. Very lush and easy to listen in the background - static, without eclectic compositions and arrangements that could potentially turn off someone completely new to the genre. They are basically baby's first sophisticated rock band.

Written by [user id=172292] on 19.07.2022 at 16:53

I can get into PinkFLoyd, but I cant go to Opeth, I dont understand why Opeth they are so popular and famous but I dont feel liking their music.

What's the relevance between them?

Both have progressive metal element.

Are you sure about that?
I think David Gilmour and Richard Wright especially were an influence on rock and metal musicians, but other than that, there is no progressive metal element in Pink Floyd.

Written by John_Doe on 28.11.2023 at 16:22

Written by [user id=172292] on 28.11.2023 at 15:26

Written by [user id=329624] on 25.11.2023 at 18:44

Written by IronAngel on 04.07.2022 at 09:38

But meh, I don't know why they're so well-loved over the other prog giants. Compared to their contemporaries, they sound cold, spiritless, and dreary. I'd take organic lushness of Thick as a Brick, the mad ambition of In the Court of the Crimson King, possibly even the cheesy bravado of Close to the Edge and the homely catchiness of Selling England by the Pound, over Pink Floyd any day.

I think that the fact that they sound "cold, spiritless, and dreary" is the exact reason why they were so successful. Very lush and easy to listen in the background - static, without eclectic compositions and arrangements that could potentially turn off someone completely new to the genre. They are basically baby's first sophisticated rock band.

Written by [user id=172292] on 19.07.2022 at 16:53

I can get into PinkFLoyd, but I cant go to Opeth, I dont understand why Opeth they are so popular and famous but I dont feel liking their music.

What's the relevance between them?

Both have progressive metal element.

Are you sure about that?
I think David Gilmour and Richard Wright especially were an influence on rock and metal musicians, but other than that, there is no progressive metal element in Pink Floyd.

I'm not sure too, but as far as I remember Pink Floyd is psyedelic n progressive inspired and influencing... I've been around the age of metal rock for20 years that's all I remember they said.

Written by [user id=172292] on 28.11.2023 at 16:28

Written by John_Doe on 28.11.2023 at 16:22


Are you sure about that?
I think David Gilmour and Richard Wright especially were an influence on rock and metal musicians, but other than that, there is no progressive metal element in Pink Floyd.

I'm not sure too, but as far as I remember Pink Floyd is psyedelic n progressive inspired and influencing... I've been around the age of metal rock for 20 years that's all I remember they said.

What do you mean "I'm not sure too"?
They as in Pink Floyd? I'm sure they don't care how they are being classified.

Written by John_Doe on 28.11.2023 at 16:37

Written by [user id=172292] on 28.11.2023 at 16:28

Written by John_Doe on 28.11.2023 at 16:22


Are you sure about that?
I think David Gilmour and Richard Wright especially were an influence on rock and metal musicians, but other than that, there is no progressive metal element in Pink Floyd.

I'm not sure too, but as far as I remember Pink Floyd is psyedelic n progressive inspired and influencing... I've been around the age of metal rock for 20 years that's all I remember they said.

What do you mean "I'm not sure too"?
They as in Pink Floyd? I'm sure they don't care how they are being classified.

Hahaha yea becuz it's so long time ago, i can't be sure I remember right, you know more than 20 years with metal, hundreds bands n the scenes, you know... lot of metal information, so I can't be sure lol haha..

They said, I mean all metal heads, metal ppl, in the scene of metal culture group..

Written by [user id=172292] on 28.11.2023 at 16:40

Written by John_Doe on 28.11.2023 at 16:37

What do you mean "I'm not sure too"?
They as in Pink Floyd? I'm sure they don't care how they are being classified.

Hahaha yea becuz it's so long time ago, i can't be sure I remember right, you know more than 20 years with metal, hundreds bands n the scenes, you know... lot of metal information, so I can't be sure lol haha..

I don't understand what you're saying.
I'm starting to think you are BE's parallel account.

I meant I have been with metal for 20 years, so I know lots of metal, thats why I dont remember all things of metal as I have learnt. But as I remember the metal community, metalheads used to say Pink Floyd is psychedelic and progressive metal influencing.

Making my way through my modest CD collection these last few days. Now listening to my only Pink Floyd CD: the A Foot In The Door compilation from 2011. I'm not a complete expert on Pink Floyd, but I think this is a pretty good compilation that shows off the essence of the band and contains some real top-tier classics. Very relaxing

Written by F3ynman on 25.11.2024 at 16:39

Making my way through my modest CD collection these last few days. Now listening to my only Pink Floyd CD: the A Foot In The Door compilation from 2011. I'm not a complete expert on Pink Floyd, but I think this is a pretty good compilation that shows off the essence of the band and contains some real top-tier classics. Very relaxing

The only PF compilations i have listened to and owned are "Early Singles" and "Relics". While there are songs that appear on both, they're worth checking out for the psychedelic years of the band.

All their albums starting with DSOTM are based on a concept and need to be listened as such. Most of those songs along rarely make sense (unless played live, like on Delicate Sound of Thunder which can also function like a best of I guess) out of the context of the album, also most of them tie up or lead into another song.

Written by John_Doe on 25.11.2024 at 16:48

Written by F3ynman on 25.11.2024 at 16:39

Making my way through my modest CD collection these last few days. Now listening to my only Pink Floyd CD: the A Foot In The Door compilation from 2011. I'm not a complete expert on Pink Floyd, but I think this is a pretty good compilation that shows off the essence of the band and contains some real top-tier classics. Very relaxing

The only PF compilations i have listened to and owned are "Early Singles" and "Relics". While there are songs that appear on both, they're worth checking out for the psychedelic years of the band.

All their albums starting with DSOTM are based on a concept and need to be listened as such. Most of those songs along rarely make sense (unless played live, like on Delicate Sound of Thunder which can also function like a best of I guess) out of the context of the album, also most of them tie up or lead into another song.

Thanks for the recommendations. By the way, what are in your opinion the best Pink Floyd albums?

I'd heard that The Wall is a concept album, but I didn't know that the others were too! Interesting

Written by F3ynman on 25.11.2024 at 16:54

Written by John_Doe on 25.11.2024 at 16:48

Written by F3ynman on 25.11.2024 at 16:39

Making my way through my modest CD collection these last few days. Now listening to my only Pink Floyd CD: the A Foot In The Door compilation from 2011. I'm not a complete expert on Pink Floyd, but I think this is a pretty good compilation that shows off the essence of the band and contains some real top-tier classics. Very relaxing

The only PF compilations i have listened to and owned are "Early Singles" and "Relics". While there are songs that appear on both, they're worth checking out for the psychedelic years of the band.

All their albums starting with DSOTM are based on a concept and need to be listened as such. Most of those songs along rarely make sense (unless played live, like on Delicate Sound of Thunder which can also function like a best of I guess) out of the context of the album, also most of them tie up or lead into another song.

Thanks for the recommendations. By the way, what are in your opinion the best Pink Floyd albums?

I'd heard that The Wall is a concept album, but I didn't know that the others were too! Interesting

I divide their long catalogue into eras. The 60s with all the psychedelic rock they did, my favorite is More and A Saucerful of Secrets is solid, too. Also from that period, the Ummagumma live album is a must listen. (Ummagumma studio album though is an acquired taste).

70s pre DSOTM is a huge step in the right direction with Atom Heart Mother and Meddle, both having great epics. Obscured by Clouds, a soundtrack apparently, I've never seen that movie, is also good, I enjoy it.

The classic and famous era starts with DSOTM and finishes for some with The Wall and for others with The Final Cut (for those who like this album). DSOTM, Wish You Were Here and Animals are must listen. I overplayed The Wall when i was younger, i rarely play it these days, but it's ambitious, dramatic, definitely worth checking out.

I do not recommend The Final Cut, not for a newbie to Pink Floyd anyway. While recording this album, the band fell apart, Waters even finished the album using another drummer. Richard Wright was already out after the tour for The Wall (stories go Waters mistreated, for lack of a better word, Wright throughout the years). After TFC, Waters leaves and goes to record a solo album. Gilmour does the same, I prefer Gilmour's 1984 album, "About Face", to Waters' "Pros and Cons of Hitch-hiking". If you are curious, check'em both, they're not bad at all.

1987 the Gilmour era starts with A Momentary Lapse of Reason, no Waters, a lot of people hate this one, it's uneven but it's got a few good songs. Listen only if curious. What Waters did in 1987 was not better in any way, he released an album called Radio KAOS (listen if curious).

The Division Bell is the worthy one.

As far as solo albums are concerned, I recommend Gilmour's first two albums. The new one is also an improvement on the two previous ones. Gilmour has never released anything bad though. if you are thorough and have the time, check out his discography. His live albums are also great, often including Pink Floyd songs.

The only Waters solo album that really stands out is Amused to Death (with a lot of guests, but great song-writing).

Richard Wright has two solo albums, Wet Dream (1978) and Broken China (1996), both must listens IMO.

Written by John_Doe on 25.11.2024 at 17:24

I divide their long catalogue into eras. The 60s with all the psychedelic rock they did, my favorite is More and A Saucerful of Secrets is solid, too. Also from that period, the Ummagumma live album is a must listen. (Ummagumma studio album though is an acquired taste).

70s pre DSTOM is a huge step in the right direction with Atom Heart Mother and Meddle, both having great epics. Obscured by Clouds, a soundtrack apparently, I've never seen that movie, is also good, I enjoy it.

The classic and famous era starts with DSOTM and finishes for some with The Wall and for others with The Final Cut (for those who like this album). DSOTM, Wish You Were Here and Animals are must listen. I overplayed The Wall when i was younger, i rarely play it these days, but it's ambitious, dramatic, definitely worth checking out.

I do not recommend The Final Cut, not for a newbie to Pink Floyd anyway. While recording this album, the band fell apart, Waters even finished the album using another drummer. Richard Wright was already out after the tour for The Wall (stories go Waters mistreated, for lack of a better word, Wright throughout the years). After TFC, Waters leaves and goes to record a solo album. Gilmour does the same, I prefer Gilmour's 1984 album, "About Face", to Waters' "Pros and Cons of Hitch-hiking". If you are curious, check'em both, they're not bad at all.

1987 the Gilmour era starts with A Momentary Lapse of Reason, no Waters, a lot of people hate this one, it's uneven but it's got a few good songs. Listen only if curious. What Waters did in 1987 was not better in any way, he releaased an album called Radio KAOS (listen if curious).

The Division Bell is the worthy one.

As far as solo albums are concerned, I recommend Gilmour's first two albums. The new one is also an impreovement on the two previous ones. Gilmour has never releases anythign bad though. if you are thorough and have the time, check out his discography. His live albums are also great, often including Pink Floyd songs.

The only Waters solo album that really stands out is Amused to Death (with a lot of guests, but great song-writing).

Richard Wright has two solo albums, Wet Dream (1978) and Broken China (1996), both must listens IMO.

Thanks for the detailed recommendations! I've got some exploring to do, it seems!

Written by F3ynman on 25.11.2024 at 17:33

Thanks for the detailed recommendations! I've got some exploring to do, it seems!

Generally you are safe with Pink Floyd and other solo albums of theirs, even their least inspired works have something interesting. So all in all, no time wasted.