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Kind of lame attributing the greatness of this record to Dave Grohl if you ask me, insulting even. He owes more to Killing Joke than the other way around, not just influentially, but especially seeing as his former band ripped off 'Eighties' in the form of 'Come As You Are' (I assume you knew that he plays on this record to make up for that fact, after KJ dropped the lawsuit after Cobain's death).
So yeah, sorry but a pretty misguided opening three paragraphs. This record would have been immense regardless of Grohl's inclusion.
The most appropriate sentence ever would have been "Killing Joke, where would the world of rock be without you?" given the multitude of bands they influenced. I'm pretty sure Grohl hasn't influenced any one in any significant sense.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by [user id=4365] on 21.04.2012 at 16:01
Kind of lame attributing the greatness of this record to Dave Grohl if you ask me, insulting even. He owes more to Killing Joke than the other way around, not just influentially, but especially seeing as his former band ripped off 'Eighties' in the form of 'Come As You Are' (I assume you knew that he plays on this record to make up for that fact, after KJ dropped the lawsuit after Cobain's death).
So yeah, sorry but a pretty misguided opening three paragraphs. This record would have been immense regardless of Grohl's inclusion.
The most appropriate sentence ever would have been "Killing Joke, where would the world of rock be without you?" given the multitude of bands they influenced. I'm pretty sure Grohl hasn't influenced any one in any significant sense.
I am not a fan of Killing Joke at all, but I totally agree.
Too much credit is given to Grohl no matter what band he drums in for a blue monday.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Sorry but this is such a joke and not a good one cosidering we are alking about Killing Joke.
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I don't think I've ever listened to a Killing Joke song but I do like some of Grohl's projects.
Not enough to bother checking this out though...
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Nosurper Stinky Lips
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21.04.2012 - 20:53Rating: 8
Fair enough, didn't know about the lawsuit. Regardless Grohl did play and immense the album is
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Nosurper on 21.04.2012 at 20:53
Fair enough, didn't know about the lawsuit. Regardless Grohl did play and immense the album is
The problem is that you make it sound like this album is great just because of Grohl, which is far from being truth. The album would have been immense regarless of who played the drums tbh. He did nothing else besides playing the drums, all the music was the creation of the band and they are the ones that deserve the higher praise both for this album and for rock in general for being far bigger influence.
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22.04.2012 - 18:48Rating: 8
Written by X-Ray Rod on 22.04.2012 at 16:18
Written by Nosurper on 21.04.2012 at 20:53
Fair enough, didn't know about the lawsuit. Regardless Grohl did play and immense the album is
The problem is that you make it sound like this album is great just because of Grohl, which is far from being truth. The album would have been immense regarless of who played the drums tbh. He did nothing else besides playing the drums, all the music was the creation of the band and they are the ones that deserve the higher praise both for this album and for rock in general for being far bigger influence.
I'll admit that I didn't get particularly detailed with what I liked about the music, maybe not descriptive enough. But like !J.O.O.E! said, it was just the first three splashes on Grohl.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Nosurper on 22.04.2012 at 18:48 But like !J.O.O.E! said, it was just the first three splashes on Grohl.
Yeah, that's correct Well, you learn by falling. Everything else wasn't bad. Peace out!
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22.04.2012 - 18:51Rating: 8
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Nosurper on 22.04.2012 at 18:48
But like !J.O.O.E! said, it was just the first three splashes on Grohl.
Just three splashes? imo that is way too much focus on Grohl and way too much credit for someone who was just a hired hand and didn't really contribute to the labum except for his playing. There is more focus on Grohl in your review than on the mastermind behind Killing Joke, Jaz Coleman.
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22.04.2012 - 19:15Rating: 8
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 22.04.2012 at 19:05
Written by Nosurper on 22.04.2012 at 18:48
But like !J.O.O.E! said, it was just the first three splashes on Grohl.
Just three splashes? imo that is way too much focus on Grohl and way too much credit for someone who was just a hired hand and didn't really contribute to the labum except for his playing. There is more focus on Grohl in your review than on the mastermind behind Killing Joke, Jaz Coleman.
I enjoy his style. He doesn't miss a beat and he's relentless. I'm not saying he's Danny Carry, but I'm not worried about praising him. I do agree that Jaz Coleman's credit is due, not just on this review but in general. However, I just stayed focused on what I was listening to, not what impact he has had barnone
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Nosurper on 22.04.2012 at 19:15
I just stayed focused on what I was listening to, not what impact he has had barnone
Yet what you were listening to WAS the creation of Jaz Coleman... not Grohl who´was simply a pair of hands who did some drums.
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Nosurper Stinky Lips
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22.04.2012 - 20:18Rating: 8
Written by X-Ray Rod on 22.04.2012 at 20:14
Written by Nosurper on 22.04.2012 at 19:15
I just stayed focused on what I was listening to, not what impact he has had barnone
Yet what you were listening to WAS the creation of Jaz Coleman... not Grohl who´was simply a pair of hands who did some drums.
I doubt Grohl was asked to do anything other than play drums though. That would likely result in some sterile post-grunge radio rock.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Nosurper on 22.04.2012 at 20:18
I doubt Grohl was asked to do anything other than play drums though. That would likely result in some sterile post-grunge radio rock.
I'm sorry but this only shows how little you know Killing Joke.
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I think he meant if Grohl had creative control it would turn out to be radio rock
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Nosurper Stinky Lips
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22.04.2012 - 20:28Rating: 8
Ok, a harsh criticism of the man i applauded in my review
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Written by Nosurper on 22.04.2012 at 20:28
Ok, a harsh criticism of the man i applauded in my review
Written by [user id=4365] on 22.04.2012 at 20:27
I think he meant if Grohl had creative control it would turn out to be radio rock
I'm sorry but this only shows how much I suck at reading. lulz. Shit this is like the fifth time I misunderstand/write something wrong. fuck it.
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 22.04.2012 at 20:34
I'm sorry but this only shows how much I suck at reading. lulz. Shit this is like the fifth time I misunderstand/write something wrong. fuck it.
And then you blame it all on me when you do the same to me
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Written by Milena on 22.04.2012 at 21:26
Written by X-Ray Rod on 22.04.2012 at 20:34
I'm sorry but this only shows how much I suck at reading. lulz. Shit this is like the fifth time I misunderstand/write something wrong. fuck it.
And then you blame it all on me when you do the same to me
When it's between us, it's always your fault honey
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To be fair, Dave Grohl's playing style is pretty unique (he hits the drums much harder than most drummers would) and this does contribute to the greatness of this album in a significant way. He was a good choice to play on this album but this choice was a creative choice done by Jaz Coleman, Geordie Walker and Youth. Grohl had no impact on any of the compositions, but he sure did play the shit out of those drums. God bless him.
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