Slayer666
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Pfft. a bunch of posers with lame music. The riffs suck serious balls, and you can't even hear them through the even shitier vocals... This is just a bunch of dudes who think that continous guitar string-fucking, combined with growling "SATAN" all the time is cool. That atmosphere you mention.... pretty non-exsistant.
It's bands like Von that give Black Metal a bad name, and make this brilliant genre a quite often laughing stock of.... pretty much everyone.
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Written by Slayer666 on 27.05.2009 at 12:23
Pfft. a bunch of posers with lame music. The riffs suck serious balls, and you can't even hear them through the even shitier vocals... This is just a bunch of dudes who think that continous guitar string-fucking, combined with growling "SATAN" all the time is cool. That atmosphere you mention.... pretty non-exsistant.
It's bands like Von that give Black Metal a bad name, and make this brilliant genre a quite often laughing stock of.... pretty much everyone.
Even though I don't like them either I see the "poser" comment to be completely baseless specially because of their influence in USA. Because this stuff is from the beginnings of Black Metal, of course the stuff is simple and completely over-satanic like most of the bands at the time... Also, I don't see why this band gives black emtal a bad name since it's not like it's friggin famous or anything. Most of the bands that gives Black Metal a bad name are the well known ones!
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6120 |
If I were to rate this release, I'd have to split the rating into 2 categories. As for influential aspect, it does get at least a 9, but as for music, you can't even say it's simplistic. It's sloppy, amateurish and simply bad. I don't care how many bands drew from Von's legacy. I'm just happy that most of them did a much better job while writing their own material. So 9 for influence, 3 for music.
Von is the musical equivalent of classic writers such as Henry James or Jane Austen - I respect them, I know their works, but I don't want to read them again.
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VON can be considered well-known (probably not as much as Immortal or Mayhem, but w/e), since Varg did unofficially promote them. (Victory Orgasm Nazis, rofl)
That said, I'm not sure if this was a serious band, no one knows for sure and Goat vanished years ago from the public eye (as far as "public eye" gets in this case). Don't know if Von Music Group is legit, probably not. (seriously, a deal with WMG?...)
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Written by Daniell on 10.11.2010 at 14:12
If I were to rate this release, I'd have to split the rating into 2 categories. As for influential aspect, it does get at least a 9, but as for music, you can't even say it's simplistic. It's sloppy, amateurish and simply bad. I don't care how many bands drew from Von's legacy. I'm just happy that most of them did a much better job while writing their own material. So 9 for influence, 3 for music.
Von is the musical equivalent of classic writers such as Henry James or Jane Austen - I respect them, I know their works, but I don't want to read them again.
Exactly, I completely agree, their music indeed suck balls but saying that they are posers or give black metal a bad name is imo completely out of place.
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Slayer666
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 08.11.2010 at 22:24
Written by Slayer666 on 27.05.2009 at 12:23
Pfft. a bunch of posers with lame music. The riffs suck serious balls, and you can't even hear them through the even shitier vocals... This is just a bunch of dudes who think that continous guitar string-fucking, combined with growling "SATAN" all the time is cool. That atmosphere you mention.... pretty non-exsistant.
It's bands like Von that give Black Metal a bad name, and make this brilliant genre a quite often laughing stock of.... pretty much everyone.
Even though I don't like them either I see the "poser" comment to be completely baseless specially because of their influence in USA. Because this stuff is from the beginnings of Black Metal, of course the stuff is simple and completely over-satanic like most of the bands at the time... Also, I don't see why this band gives black emtal a bad name since it's not like it's friggin famous or anything. Most of the bands that gives Black Metal a bad name are the well known ones!
This post was written quite a while back, when I was pretty much clueless about BM origins and such. So, the stupidity of that post of mine can be contributed to lack of experience and knowledge on my part at the time.
Of course, I still think they suck, but other than that, consider everything in that post non-existent.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Von played live witth Watain in England earlier this year and apparently were even worse live. And yes I agree with the rest that their music sucks big time.
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Well I like this album. I couldn't explain to you why I like it but I always have done.
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Written by [user id=5630] on 13.05.2012 at 21:46
I cannot succinctly explain how much I hate this album, so I'll direct you to this article I wrote about them instead.
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Nah, just kidding... While I don't really like their stuff... Von being a huge influence to many now classic bands is undeniable. So giving the credit to Varg's tshirt only works as a funny comment...
Just like Daniel said, if we gave ratings based on history and music impact, Von should get at least a 9, simple as that. As for the music content that's when it's up to you.
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 13.05.2012 at 22:44
Written by [user id=5630] on 13.05.2012 at 21:46
I cannot succinctly explain how much I hate this album, so I'll direct you to this article I wrote about them instead.
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Nah, just kidding... While I don't really like their stuff... Von being a huge influence to many now classic bands is undeniable. So giving the credit to Varg's tshirt only works as a funny comment...
Just like Daniel said, if we gave ratings based on history and music impact, Von should get at least a 9, simple as that. As for the music content that's when it's up to you.
Well, that's the thing though. Von is one of those bands where the descendents are better than the original. I absolutely despise Von, but I adore Watain.
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Written by [user id=5630] on 13.05.2012 at 23:24 Well, that's the thing though. Von is one of those bands where the descendents are better than the original.
I don't see the point in hating a band just because of that, feels like an empty and pointless reason. I don't like their music and do think the descendetns are better but I respect what they have done. This is not the first and certainly not the last case this has happened in the history of music.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6120 |
Von. Another band that sucked ass, but inspired a lot of good bands. And no, I don't mean the production, but the extremely bad songwriting
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Written by Daniell on 15.05.2012 at 09:37
Von. Another band that sucked ass, but inspired a lot of good bands. And no, I don't mean the production, but the extremely bad songwriting
Exactly just like Venom and Hellhammer.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 15.05.2012 at 10:17
Written by Daniell on 15.05.2012 at 09:37
Von. Another band that sucked ass, but inspired a lot of good bands. And no, I don't mean the production, but the extremely bad songwriting
Exactly just like Venom and Hellhammer.
Let's add a few more overrated pioneers, and we're sure to draw a flock of outraged fans
My turn: early Bathory, say 2 first albums, is also very bad.
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Written by Daniell on 15.05.2012 at 10:33
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 15.05.2012 at 10:17
Written by Daniell on 15.05.2012 at 09:37
Von. Another band that sucked ass, but inspired a lot of good bands. And no, I don't mean the production, but the extremely bad songwriting
Exactly just like Venom and Hellhammer.
Let's add a few more overrated pioneers, and we're sure to draw a flock of outraged fans
My turn: early Bathory, say 2 first albums, is also very bad.
Totally agreed on Bathory, who even started off as a pure Venom rip off on Scandinavian Metal Attack.
Btw also Celtic Frost I deem quite bad and overrated, but then again they are a continuation fo the even worse Hellhammer.
Sodom and Kreator and Destruction very ealr on extremely crap as well yet influential.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 15.05.2012 at 10:46
Sodom and Kreator and Destruction very ealr on extremely crap as well yet influential.
What day is it today that we agree all the time
The first decent Sodom album is Persecution Mania, everything before is among the worst music ever recorded. Especially Obsessed By Cruelty stinks to high heavens.
Kreator's Endless Pain is a sloppy display of amateurish crap. Even Pleasure to Kill is mediocre at best and I have no clue why people love it so much. The first good Kreator album is Terrible Certainty.
Destruction is the only band I will disagree with you about. Infernal Overkill is a very good release. What made Destruction stand out among the terrible mass of early teutonic thrash was their riffs - really good, bordering on excellent. Invincible Force, Bestial Invasion, The Ritual - these songs are great in my opinion.
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Written by Daniell on 15.05.2012 at 13:00
What day is it today that we agree all the time
The day hell freezes over
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 15.05.2012 at 13:18 The day hell freezes over
I'm now expecting you to agree with Joe this whole day.
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 15.05.2012 at 13:20
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 15.05.2012 at 13:18 The day hell freezes over
I'm now expecting you to agree with Joe this whole day.
If that happens as well, you''d better run for true cover. But I do agree with him on Baroness sounding like Nickelback on the new song and Evoken totally aren''t grim (so there I disagree with Daniell)
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 15.05.2012 at 13:22
If that happens as well, you''d better run for true cover. But I do agree with him on Baroness sounding like Nickelback on the new song and Evoken totally aren''t grim (so there I disagree with Daniell)
That's true... But if I see you guys agreeing with genre categorization involving vocals (or not?)... I'm getting the fuck out of here since Armaggedon is about to come.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6120 |
Slayer's Reign in blood is excellent. Who agrees with me?
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Written by Daniell on 15.05.2012 at 13:26
Slayer's Reign in blood is excellent. Who agrees with me?
I like it but Hell Awaits is Slayer best albums hands down.
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 15.05.2012 at 13:24
That's true... But if I see you guys agreeing with genre categorization involving vocals (or not?)... I'm getting the fuck out of here since Armaggedon is about to come.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Okay we had enough off topic fun now back on topic and let people talk about this shitty band.
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Written by Daniell on 15.05.2012 at 13:48
Party pooper!
what did I say about off topic posting?
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