evoola
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It's a damn shame people didn't step up earlier and defend this album in the face of this totally absurd, poorly written diatribe. It reads like a 12 year old having a seizure. I thought ponderer nailed it down nicely with his descriptions and take on where Kamelot were headed whereas daniell just bent over and took a verbal shit all over the place. What's worse are the outright childish attacks launched at ponderer for defending his point of view. Is MS a dictatorship based on repression and censorship? Since when is a group of so-called "extreme metal" wannabe brats from Europe allowed to troll a user off this site for having his own opinion? It's pretty fucking tragic if you ask me considering the quality of reviews ponderer laid down as opposed to the biased, witless drivel daniell slobbers all over this site. Hail Kamelot and props to ponderer for having the balls to defend what he believes in.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
Written by evoola on 30.03.2011 at 22:02
It's a damn shame people didn't step up earlier and defend this album in the face of this totally absurd, poorly written diatribe. It reads like a 12 year old having a seizure. I thought ponderer nailed it down nicely with his descriptions and take on where Kamelot were headed whereas daniell just bent over and took a verbal shit all over the place. What's worse are the outright childish attacks launched at ponderer for defending his point of view. Is MS a dictatorship based on repression and censorship? Since when is a group of so-called "extreme metal" wannabe brats from Europe allowed to troll a user off this site for having his own opinion? It's pretty fucking tragic if you ask me considering the quality of reviews ponderer laid down as opposed to the biased, witless drivel daniell slobbers all over this site. Hail Kamelot and props to ponderer for having the balls to defend what he believes in.
the user in question wasn't "trolled out", but trolled himself out. he flat out asked to be banned.
and if you want to see a totally absurd, poorly written diatribe, perhaps you should check out his review of Enslaved's latest.
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evoola
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@ Bittercold, Thanks for the heads up! His review seemed a bit over the top, yes, however I agreed with most of it. I'll be in the minority here when I say I think Enslaved are pretty overrated. I don't see what the hype is all about at all. Seems like a pretty mediocre offering in the same vein as everything else coming out of that part of the world.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
Written by evoola on 01.04.2011 at 18:13
@ Bittercold, Thanks for the heads up! His review seemed a bit over the top, yes, however I agreed with most of it. I'll be in the minority here when I say I think Enslaved are pretty overrated. I don't see what the hype is all about at all. Seems like a pretty mediocre offering in the same vein as everything else coming out of that part of the world.
yep. it sounds just like Gorgoroth and Immortal, doesn't it? i mean they are all virtually indistinguishable. just like mercyful fate was nothing but a hellhammer clone that sounded just like venom. all those fucking european wave bm bands sound exactly the same.
and anyone incapable of discerning any one of those from any of the others is probably equally incapable of discerning troll v1.0 from troll v2.0.
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evoola
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Mercyful Fate sucks. I agree with you there. That singing, my gosh! Also, we're not allowed to listen to that stuff inside the Vatican walls
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The Norseman
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25.05.2011 - 20:33Rating: 8
How is that :
Performance: 8
Songwriting: 6
Originality: 7
Production: 7
gives a final rating of 5.9 ? I always thought it was the average of this 4 rates.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
Written by The Norseman on 25.05.2011 at 20:33
How is that :
Performance: 8
Songwriting: 6
Originality: 7
Production: 7
gives a final rating of 5.9 ? I always thought it was the average of this 4 rates.
nope. those are just four benchmarks. omitted are things like "enjoyment"... something can be played well, produced well, and still be boring as hell.
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 |
26.05.2011 - 13:41Rating: 7
Written by BitterCOld on 25.05.2011 at 20:39
Written by The Norseman on 25.05.2011 at 20:33
How is that :
Performance: 8
Songwriting: 6
Originality: 7
Production: 7
gives a final rating of 5.9 ? I always thought it was the average of this 4 rates.
nope. those are just four benchmarks. omitted are things like "enjoyment"... something can be played well, produced well, and still be boring as hell.
But wouldn't the four benchmarks depend on the enjoyment of the reviewer anyway? Reviews are opinions. In the case of this album, why give the opinion that the album is of decent quality but say that you didn't enjoy it? That doesn't make sense to me, saying "yeah this albums decent but I didn't enjoy it" is like saying "this albums somewhat enjoyable but I didn't enjoy it."
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15287 |
Written by R'Vannith on 26.05.2011 at 13:41
Written by BitterCOld on 25.05.2011 at 20:39
nope. those are just four benchmarks. omitted are things like "enjoyment"... something can be played well, produced well, and still be boring as hell.
But wouldn't the four benchmarks depend on the enjoyment of the reviewer anyway? Reviews are opinions. In the case of this album, why give the opinion that the album is of decent quality but say that you didn't enjoy it? That doesn't make sense to me, saying "yeah this albums decent but I didn't enjoy it" is like saying "this albums somewhat enjoyable but I didn't enjoy it."
no. not at all.
i can divorce whether or not the band is skilled or writes "good" songs from whether or not I like them. Rush vs. later Darkthrone... Rush are better at their instruments, more original, and better produced. both write good songs. Rush would likely score better in 3 of 4 fields... yet i don't own a Rush album and "Circle The Wagons" got more spins than anything else I bought last year. Rush is a better band, which i'll admit, but I enjoy Darkthrone more.
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 |
27.05.2011 - 03:55Rating: 7
Written by BitterCOld on 26.05.2011 at 18:58
Written by R'Vannith on 26.05.2011 at 13:41
But wouldn't the four benchmarks depend on the enjoyment of the reviewer anyway? Reviews are opinions. In the case of this album, why give the opinion that the album is of decent quality but say that you didn't enjoy it? That doesn't make sense to me, saying "yeah this albums decent but I didn't enjoy it" is like saying "this albums somewhat enjoyable but I didn't enjoy it."
no. not at all.
i can divorce whether or not the band is skilled or writes "good" songs from whether or not I like them. Rush vs. later Darkthrone... Rush are better at their instruments, more original, and better produced. both write good songs. Rush would likely score better in 3 of 4 fields... yet i don't own a Rush album and "Circle The Wagons" got more spins than anything else I bought last year. Rush is a better band, which i'll admit, but I enjoy Darkthrone more.
Fair enough, but should the 'enjoyment' factor of an album even come into the final rating for a review? After all readers would be more interested in whether an album is 'good' or not rather than whether the reviewer enjoyed such 'good' (or not) music. Then again its all opinion anyway, so why not factor in your enjoyment?
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Matheus
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HI FOLKS!!!
There are so many rules on this site when reviewing or commenting... funny stuff. I thought we were all rockers and f***** rules... at least I do... still love the album. "Zodiac" is the strongest song to me, and "necropolis..". But hey..! Lately I have been listening to Alice in Chains and Jerry Cantrell... GREAT STUFF BTW.., Its quite far from Kamelots previous effort though..! I like the darker/ goth/ grunge influences visible in this they're latest effort...
However... Now that Khan is gone, I guess they are bound to get some boring spiritless power metal singer..! Unfortunately... like the guy they had on their last tour (in which I saw them live in London)...
It would be awesome if they got some darker, cooler goth-guy... I don't see that happening though..
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IanYeara
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I totally agree, I destroyed this album in my review on Encyclopedia Metalum, calling it boring, directionless and just not power metal. Even the most power metal song on the whole thing is incredibly lame and just lacking in energy. Pandemonium and Necropolis are actually decent songs, but even the worst songs from Ghost Opera are better than them (well maybe not Anthem). All in all the energy has seeped out of this band and they have just become some lame Goth metal group. Something needs to change.
4 out of 10
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Epictemptation
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This is the only website that has gave this album a bad review, this staff can't find the true power of PFTP, but he will eventually
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6101 |
30.10.2012 - 22:15Rating: 5
Written by Epictemptation on 30.10.2012 at 18:56
Lol all albums have bad reviews, it's just that this one seems to harsh, but thanks for the links:)
Since Kamelot have just released a new album, I went back to Poetry for the Poisoned to see how it stands now, after 2 years. I'd rate it even lower, with a full round 5 now, if I were to write this review again.
So, too harsh for you, not harsh enough for me. To each his own...
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Nemo Atkins
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Written by Daniell on 30.10.2012 at 22:15
Written by Epictemptation on 30.10.2012 at 18:56
Lol all albums have bad reviews, it's just that this one seems to harsh, but thanks for the links:)
Since Kamelot have just released a new album, I went back to Poetry for the Poisoned to see how it stands now, after 2 years. I'd rate it even lower, with a full round 5 now, if I were to write this review again.
So, too harsh for you, not harsh enough for me. To each his own...
Yeah, I got Poetry recently myself (I've got all of Kamelot's albums with Khan and Silverthorn arrived in the post today: loving it right now) and I have to say that there are three songs which I could say I like off of it: "The Great Pandemonium", "The Zodiac" and (because it opens "The Zodiac") "Dear Editor". Otherwise, I find the album pretty poor. I see what they were trying to do, but they didn't do it very well.
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Epictemptation
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Written by Nemo Atkins on 30.10.2012 at 22:59
Written by Daniell on 30.10.2012 at 22:15
Written by Epictemptation on 30.10.2012 at 18:56
Lol all albums have bad reviews, it's just that this one seems to harsh, but thanks for the links:)
Since Kamelot have just released a new album, I went back to Poetry for the Poisoned to see how it stands now, after 2 years. I'd rate it even lower, with a full round 5 now, if I were to write this review again.
So, too harsh for you, not harsh enough for me. To each his own...
Yeah, I got Poetry recently myself (I've got all of Kamelot's albums with Khan and Silverthorn arrived in the post today: loving it right now) and I have to say that there are three songs which I could say I like off of it: "The Great Pandemonium", "The Zodiac" and (because it opens "The Zodiac") "Dear Editor". Otherwise, I find the album pretty poor. I see what they were trying to do, but they didn't do it very well.
Yah it's an album with mixed review so some will like it and some won't . You know what r u gonna do about it right?
I hope the album will enhance you as much as it did to me:)
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Epictemptation
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Written by Daniell on 30.10.2012 at 22:15
Written by Epictemptation on 30.10.2012 at 18:56
Lol all albums have bad reviews, it's just that this one seems to harsh, but thanks for the links:)
Since Kamelot have just released a new album, I went back to Poetry for the Poisoned to see how it stands now, after 2 years. I'd rate it even lower, with a full round 5 now, if I were to write this review again.
So, too harsh for you, not harsh enough for me. To each his own...
Lol it's your opinion and I respect it:)
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Epictemptation
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Written by Daniell on 30.10.2012 at 22:15
Written by Epictemptation on 30.10.2012 at 18:56
Lol all albums have bad reviews, it's just that this one seems to harsh, but thanks for the links:)
Since Kamelot have just released a new album, I went back to Poetry for the Poisoned to see how it stands now, after 2 years. I'd rate it even lower, with a full round 5 now, if I were to write this review again.
So, too harsh for you, not harsh enough for me. To each his own...
Again it's a mixed review album so some will like it and some won't
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Nemo Atkins
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Written by Epictemptation on 30.10.2012 at 23:15
Written by Nemo Atkins on 30.10.2012 at 22:59
Written by Daniell on 30.10.2012 at 22:15
Written by Epictemptation on 30.10.2012 at 18:56
Lol all albums have bad reviews, it's just that this one seems to harsh, but thanks for the links:)
Since Kamelot have just released a new album, I went back to Poetry for the Poisoned to see how it stands now, after 2 years. I'd rate it even lower, with a full round 5 now, if I were to write this review again.
So, too harsh for you, not harsh enough for me. To each his own...
Yeah, I got Poetry recently myself (I've got all of Kamelot's albums with Khan and Silverthorn arrived in the post today: loving it right now) and I have to say that there are three songs which I could say I like off of it: "The Great Pandemonium", "The Zodiac" and (because it opens "The Zodiac") "Dear Editor". Otherwise, I find the album pretty poor. I see what they were trying to do, but they didn't do it very well.
Yah it's an album with mixed review so some will like it and some won't . You know what r u gonna do about it right?
I hope the album will enhance you as much as it did to me:)
Well, it certainly proved to me that synths and Kamelot don't mix very well!
On a serious note, my main issue is more the fact that it had the potential to be a lot better than the uncatchiness of the music (although that's certainly a factor: I'm not usually a fan of prog music). There was a lot of potential in this album, but very little of it actually bore fruit for me. Which is a real shame, since it's obvious that a lot of work went into this album...
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Yeah, I got Poetry recently myself (I've got all of Kamelot's albums with Khan and Silverthorn arrived in the post today: loving it right now) and I have to say that there are three songs which I could say I like off of it: "The Great Pandemonium", "The Zodiac" and (because it opens "The Zodiac") "Dear Editor". Otherwise, I find the album pretty poor. I see what they were trying to do, but they didn't do it very well.
Yah it's an album with mixed review so some will like it and some won't . You know what r u gonna do about it right?
I hope the album will enhance you as much as it did to me:)
Well, it certainly proved to me that synths and Kamelot don't mix very well!
On a serious note, my main issue is more the fact that it had the potential to be a lot better than the uncatchiness of the music (although that's certainly a factor: I'm not usually a fan of prog music). There was a lot of potential in this album, but very little of it actually bore fruit for me. Which is a real shame, since it's obvious that a lot of work went into this album...
The album is good but not great, but its also an album to remember about if you are a kamelot fan, I'm seeing many comments on how "Silverthorn" isn't as great as PFTP and many comments that's its better than PFTP. So I'm guessing "Silverthorn" is going to be a mixed review album as well.
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