Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Angelic Storm on 03.01.2012 at 20:39
^^ It's really sad watching Max live now. It's like he's become a parody of himself. His live vocals are terrible, and he plays guitar even less now than he did when he was in Sepultura. Makes me wonder why he even straps a guitar on at all for live performances... And this is coming from someone who loves Sep's classic material with Max.
Max was never any good live, not even in Sepultura's heydays. And i am still puzzled why he had a guitar strapped on in that era. All he ever did was play one string max. Current Sepultura proves the songs sound just as good with one guitar instead of the two back then. But like I ssaid curentday Sepultura is a live beast whereas old Sepultura were good at best on their good days.
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X-Ray Rod Skandino StaffPosts: 18374 |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 03.01.2012 at 20:52 But like I ssaid curentday Sepultura is a live beast whereas old Sepultura were good at best on their good days.
WTF happened on the studio then? black magic?!
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Written by X-Ray Rod on 03.01.2012 at 21:08 WTF happened on the studio then? black magic?!
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by X-Ray Rod on 03.01.2012 at 21:08
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 03.01.2012 at 20:52 But like I ssaid curentday Sepultura is a live beast whereas old Sepultura were good at best on their good days.
WTF happened on the studio then? black magic?!
Well, Kisser, Max, Igor, Paulo Jr. together could write a mean tune whereas Kisser on his own can't or even with the current line-up.
But being able to write good songs does not equate being good live.
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 03.01.2012 at 21:18 Well, Kisser, Max, Igor, Paulo Jr. together could write a mean tune whereas Kisser on his own can't or even with the current line-up.
But being able to write good songs does not equate being good live.
I would dispute that Seps weren't good live in their heyday, although yep, Max isn't anywhere near the likes of James Hetfield, Dave Mustaine, or Mille Petrozza as a live rhythm guitarist. But his live vocals were a lot better back then than now. If we're comparing them now, it's no contest. Derrick destroys Max when it comes to singing live.
As for the songwriting, I think what the split has proven is that the original band (not counting Wagner or Jairo T! ) was far greater than the sum of it's parts. Although I do find "Roots" to be weaker than some of the Derrick era material. People say Max was Sepultura, but he has released nothing outside of Sepultura that comes anywhere the quality of late 80's/early 90's Sepultura.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Angelic Storm on 03.01.2012 at 21:29
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 03.01.2012 at 21:18 Well, Kisser, Max, Igor, Paulo Jr. together could write a mean tune whereas Kisser on his own can't or even with the current line-up.
But being able to write good songs does not equate being good live.
I would dispute that Seps weren't good live in their heyday,
I have seen them countless times during their Beneath The Remains and Arise era and also during the time they went downhill with Chaos A.D. and Roots and at their best Sepultura were good live never great.
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 03.01.2012 at 21:41 I have seen them countless times during their Beneath The Remains and Arise era and also during the time they went downhill with Chaos A.D. and Roots and at their best Sepultura were good live never great.
I've seen them twice live when Max was in the band, and both times thought they were great. Max has definitely deteriorated a lot since those days, in my eyes.
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Moosh666
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Max Cavalera died many years ago to be replaced by a Rob Zombie impersonator.
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sepulkisser
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Sepultura played for first time in "Wacken". And now They were invited by Metallica to play in the Orion fest.... All for "KAIROS"!!!
¡¡¡That be hurts haters!!!
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Ralle
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27.11.2012 - 18:04Rating: 9
Great album, best without Max !!!
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@gent_-_orange
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Written by Ralle on 27.11.2012 at 18:04
Great album, best without Max !!!
That honour belongs to Dante IMO which is a very strong album in its own right.
I guess I should check this out, But I am not expecting much.
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Ralle
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28.11.2012 - 14:22Rating: 9
Kairos rules,my old school thrash metal friends also love this album
Dante is good, but this is better:banger:
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(o> . <o> )
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11.09.2013 - 13:50Rating: 7
Such a bad subjective review. That's all I need to say. Let me tell you what Max is now. A zero. Fat lazy zero. He let himself go. These guys are doing much better then he is now.
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EDIT --- WHAT WAS I COOKING??? I am here from the future of the year 2024, I disagree with what I had to say and especially how I said it!!!
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@gent_-_orange
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Written by (o> . <o> ) on 11.09.2013 at 13:50
Such a bad subjective review.
But all reviews are subjective.
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(o> . <o> )
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13.09.2013 - 18:16Rating: 7
Written by @gent_-_orange on 12.09.2013 at 21:13
Written by (o> . <o> ) on 11.09.2013 at 13:50
Such a bad subjective review.
But all reviews are subjective.
But not subjective.
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@gent_-_orange
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Written by (o> . <o> ) on 13.09.2013 at 18:16
But not subjective.
The only thing I can see being reviewed objectively is the musicianship on the album, The quality of the songs is an entirely subjective matter.
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Pepe44
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20.09.2013 - 09:31Rating: 7
The only problem with this review is that you mention how this is a thrash album, the problem with that is that they only used elements of thrash which doesn't make this album entirely a thrash album, which is what you are trying to imply. This is definitely not a straight up thrash album, if you're going to critique this album on that basis then I can see how you score it a 4. I can see that you really don't like this album, but please don't say that it's thrash.
Cheers
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