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Release date: 19 October 2012
Style: Extreme power metal, Progressive folk metal

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Disc I
01. When Time Fades Away
02. Sons Of Winter And Stars
    1 - Rain Of Stars
    2 - Surrounded By Darkness
    3 - Journey Inside A Dream
    4 - Sons Of Winter And Stars
03. Land Of Snow And Sorrow
04. Darkness And Frost
05. Time
06. [hidden track] [Mediabook & Mailorder edition bonus]

Disc II [DVD] [Mediabook bonus]
+ Time I Live Rehearsals At Sonic Pump Studios
+ Licks & Tricks
+ Sons Of Winter And Stars - Project Demonstration
+ Photo Gallery

Disc III [instrumental CD] [Mailorder edition bonus]
01. When Time Fades Away
02. Sons Of Winter And Stars
    1 - Rain Of Stars
    2 - Surrounded By Darkness
    3 - Journey Inside A Dream
    4 - Sons Of Winter And Stars
03. Land Of Snow And Sorrow
04. Darkness And Frost
05. Time

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Lyrics (5)


Line-up
Jari Mäenpää - vocals, guitars, keyboards, bass
Teemu Mäntysaari - guitars
Kai Hahto - drums
Jukka Koskinen - bass

Guest musicians
Jukka-Pekka Miettinen - choirs
Mikko "Ilmarinen" Salovaara - choirs
Markus Toivonen - choirs
Heri Joensen - choirs
Sami Hinkka - choirs
Olli Vänskä - choirs
Mathias "Warlord" Nygård - choirs
Alpha Valtias Mustatuuli - additional growling


Additional info

Release dates:
  • October 19: Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Finland, Norway
  • October 22: North America, UK, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Denmark, Portugal, Poland (+ all other European countries not mentioned in this list)
  • October 23: Italy
  • October 24: Sweden
Formats:
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Instrumental CD of Time I, Certificate (limited to 500 copies, exclusively available at Nuclear Blast)
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Signed photo card Jari Mäenpää (limited to 1000 copies, exclusively available at Amazon.de)
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Wintersun logo shirt gray/black (exclusively available at Levykauppa Äx)
  • Limited Mediabook (hard cover, wide format) CD+DVD + Shirt (black) (EMP exclusive)
  • CD Jewel Case + Shirt (Nuclear Blast USA exclusive)
  • CD Jewel Case
  • Blue vinyl (180g vinyl in gatefold including poster)
  • White vinyl (180g vinyl in gatefold including poster. Strictly limited to 200 hand-numbered copies) (exclusive at Nuclear Blast mailorder)
  • Digital download
  • iTunes digital download with Time I booklet

Staff review by
Baz Anderson

Rating:
7.5
One of the most highly anticipated albums of the last decade; Time I finally ends the eight year silence, but was the wait worth it?

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Wes - 15.10.2012 at 09:35  
Rating: 10 I actually like the cover art a lot. I think I somewhat disliked it at first, but it's grown on me quite a bit.
beyondtehdarksun - 15.10.2012 at 12:08  
Rating: 10 Well, I refuse to listen to it till my physical album arrives at Friday. And just the day after that I'll see them play it live
Loathera - 15.10.2012 at 13:46  
Rating: 10 I ordered this album through the nuclearblast mailorder. I know it will arrive a few weeks after it's intended release date, but I vow not to listen to this album until I hold it in my own two hands.
PocketMetal - 15.10.2012 at 15:37  
Rating: 8 An 8 at best , the second track is really great but the whole thing is not that special .
Yugosaki - 15.10.2012 at 16:18  
Rating: 10 Magnificent album, as I was expecting, 10/10... Jari You are a God !!!
IronAngel - 15.10.2012 at 17:54  
  I loved the debut when it was released. I was 15.

I may be judgmental, but to me this seems like teenager music. The kind of stuff you like in your formative years of getting into metal, perhaps. Not bad, but not to be taken altogether serious. I can't help but feel a little sorry for the people who actually waited for this 8 years and didn't refine their taste in the interim. I mean, seriously? After eight years you're still stoked about flashy, overproduced melodeath?

But hey, people like different things and there's nothing inherently juvenile about any type of music itself. It's just that after the evolution of my personal taste, feelings like that are pretty inevitable.
Uldreth - 15.10.2012 at 18:08  
Rating: 7
Written by IronAngel on 15.10.2012 at 17:54

I loved the debut when it was released. I was 15.

I may be judgmental, but to me this seems like teenager music. The kind of stuff you like in your formative years of getting into metal, perhaps. Not bad, but not to be taken altogether serious. I can't help but feel a little sorry for the people who actually waited for this 8 years and didn't refine their taste in the interim. I mean, seriously? After eight years you're still stoked about flashy, overproduced melodeath?

But hey, people like different things and there's nothing inherently juvenile about any type of music itself. It's just that after the evolution of my personal taste, feelings like that are pretty inevitable.

To be fair I think it is pretentious (maybe that is not the best word for this) and "wrong" to state this is "teenager music" but aside from that I agree with the fundamentals. In the process of listening but so far while I get the appeal it seems waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too cheesy for me, much much more than the debut, and I 'm getting much less "rush" from it. I also adored the debut, not when it was released but about 3 or so years ago and since then my taste in music changed quite a lot. Plus I pretty much overlistened the debut, but I get the same vibe from this as I get from the debut NOW and I am not even through my first listen.

It also feels like the orchestra is completely unnecessary, and the "essence" of the music seems to just get lost in all the flashy, cheesy stuff. People can claim whatever they want about the debut but at least it had solid riffs that they themselves were cheesy, but wasn't coated in an additional 2000 km layers of cheese.

Dunno what numeric rating to assign to this, and I won't assign for a while since I am not even through the first listen completely, probably nothing bad because it is not bad really but I am definitely over this type of music.

I'm just gonna stick with the latest Neurosis

Edit: On a random thought: This seems to work the best to me when they drop the metal completely. The fucking orchestra just won't shut up and like I said it completely makes the actual music get lost in the whole, but during moments where they are going for atmosphere, it does seem to work quite well.

Edit2: Finish'd the album, opinion did not change.
Until the End - 15.10.2012 at 19:09  
Rating: 9 Could have done with 1 more non-instrumental song, even if it was a short one. Also would have liked to hear more guitar noodlery. The heavy synth presence isn't a problem for me. I won't be too bothered though as long as they release the 2nd part a bit quicker than it took to release the 1st part.
blindg - 15.10.2012 at 21:37  
  8 years for just 3 songs embedded with intros and outros, 1 of which is even almost a ballad? I am very disappointed.
Zaphod - 15.10.2012 at 21:55  
Rating: 7
Written by beyondtehdarksun on 15.10.2012 at 12:08

Well, I refuse to listen to it till my physical album arrives at Friday. And just the day after that I'll see them play it live

Well, don't worry about not knowing the songs when you go see them, especially Sons... was in my head for the rest of the day after the first listen.
Hallford9000 - 15.10.2012 at 21:56  
Rating: 8
Written by jesterhead57 on 15.10.2012 at 09:00

The cover art, imo, ruins the mood. Too bright, too much going on. Looks like a bad videogame cover as someone said in another thread. I replaced it with the old cover in my music player and the mood feels better. I think I am just use to the old art haha. ^_^

The album itself (the music) is beyond expectations. Still digesting it.



haha i did the same thing
blindg - 15.10.2012 at 22:33  
 
Written by Until the End on 15.10.2012 at 19:09

Could have done with 1 more non-instrumental song, even if it was a short one. Also would have liked to hear more guitar noodlery. The heavy synth presence isn't a problem for me. I won't be too bothered though as long as they release the 2nd part a bit quicker than it took to release the 1st part.



Could have done with Part 2 on the same disc. What a dumb idea it was to split in two!
Unhealer - 15.10.2012 at 22:57  
Rating: 6
Written by blindg on 15.10.2012 at 22:33

What a dumb idea it was to split in two!


Actually it was damn clever.
He'll probably have the two Time albums in several "Best of" lists both in 2012 and 2013, what brings us a brand new pack of Wintersun fanboys and Jari/Nuclear Blast the moneyz.
He said it himself: "To keep the band visible longer" or something around those lines.
blindg - 15.10.2012 at 23:35  
 
Written by Unhealer on 15.10.2012 at 22:57

Written by blindg on 15.10.2012 at 22:33

What a dumb idea it was to split in two!


Actually it was damn clever.
He'll probably have the two Time albums in several "Best of" lists both in 2012 and 2013, what brings us a brand new pack of Wintersun fanboys and Jari/Nuclear Blast the moneyz.
He said it himself: "To keep the band visible longer" or something around those lines.



It may be good for marketing or whatever, but not for listening pleasure. It will stay in my player for a few days maybe, until the same happens with part 2.
opeth771 - 16.10.2012 at 00:50  
Rating: 8 This is probably the worst mixing I have heard in an album.... You can barely hear the guitars or drums because they are covered by the orchestrations.... Same thing when it comes to vocals...

I can't believe they even released something like this... It feels like an unfinished project...

That's a shame, because the album REALLY had potential and tons of great ideas.... With a better mix, it could have been the album of the year.
Wes - 16.10.2012 at 03:12  
Rating: 10 I have absolutely no complaints on the mixing.. After hearing it with good headphones through several times I'm in awe of how well the sounds have been balanced together. : / Anyway, I'm sure some people may dislike all the orchestrations but I for one, do not.
MetalSpider - 16.10.2012 at 05:31  
Rating: 9
Written by opeth771 on 16.10.2012 at 00:50

This is probably the worst mixing I have heard in an album.... You can barely hear the guitars or drums because they are covered by the orchestrations.... Same thing when it comes to vocals...

I can't believe they even released something like this... It feels like an unfinished project...

That's a shame, because the album REALLY had potential and tons of great ideas.... With a better mix, it could have been the album of the year.


Interesting because it sounds very well balanced. I'm not sure what kind of headphones or speakers your using but it sounds excellent. To be fair, I am listening to them on $350 (Canadian) Headphones, but even in my Jeep Patriot (speakers aren't the greatest for hearing all the little details) it still sounds great.
MetalSpider - 16.10.2012 at 05:33  
Rating: 9 I am definitely enjoying the album even more after several listens. I still think their debut as a whole package was better but this album is still incredible. Sons of Winter and Stars and Time are absolutely amazing...Land of Snow and Sorrow is also excellent, just not as good as the other 2. And I enjoy When Time Fades Away and Darkness And Frost quite a bit too.
Delamortia - 16.10.2012 at 05:40  
Rating: 9 Nothing really extraterrestrial epic, but man, this album sounds great.
Wes - 16.10.2012 at 10:30  
Rating: 10 Growing on me still with each listen.

I think the album has one real flaw, which is simply that it's half an album. But even so I can't deny how much I love each track and the album as it is. I don't think its fair to criticize it due to it's length. The album's beauty is both very obvious and very subtle. The more I listen to each track the more I'm finding beauty in the orchestrations and overarching melodies.

From first listen and even now, I have to say that the song Time is Jari's most mature work to date. Jukka and Teemu also seem to favorite it as they said on the live chat. Interestingly it's Jukka who does the low growls on this track as well as Son's.

Land of Snow and Sorrow at first seems simple, but god is it beautiful in ways I can't describe. It's easy to mistakenly dismiss it as another early Ensiferum-esque ballad, but it paints a much different pitcture. I even sense something sci-fi to it but I'm unsure why. Changes in the vocal melody give it something very unique.

I've never really had an album to listen to with so few songs, so it's hard to know how to "deal with it" for me. After hearing it through and having it sitting on my playlist to play from, I've decided I really only want to listen to it all the way through, or just with a lot of focus. I think it was really made to be heard that way, and good speakers or headphones really are a must. Listening in bed at night with eyes closed is very recommended
beyondtehdarksun - 16.10.2012 at 11:41  
Rating: 10
Written by Zaphod on 15.10.2012 at 21:55

Written by beyondtehdarksun on 15.10.2012 at 12:08

Well, I refuse to listen to it till my physical album arrives at Friday. And just the day after that I'll see them play it live

Well, don't worry about not knowing the songs when you go see them, especially Sons... was in my head for the rest of the day after the first listen.


Thanks, that are exactly my expectations of an album written by Jari

Is anyone coincidentally attending the Stuttgart show? (not many Germans around here I guess...)
rasto - 16.10.2012 at 12:48  
Rating: 10 I MUST SAY , I HAVE THIS ALBUM (TIME I) AND ME VOTE 10. TOP,TOP SUPER
Milena - 16.10.2012 at 13:11  
Rating: 9
Written by Hallford9000 on 15.10.2012 at 21:56

Written by jesterhead57 on 15.10.2012 at 09:00

The cover art, imo, ruins the mood. Too bright, too much going on. Looks like a bad videogame cover as someone said in another thread. I replaced it with the old cover in my music player and the mood feels better. I think I am just use to the old art haha. ^_^

The album itself (the music) is beyond expectations. Still digesting it.

*snip*

haha i did the same thing

Hahaha, me too, and a couple of my friends!

Written by Wes on 16.10.2012 at 10:30

Interestingly it's Jukka who does the low growls on this track as well as Sons.

Really? I didn't know that!
swatata - 16.10.2012 at 15:00  
Rating: 10 The mixing is GODLIKE on my headphones and audio system,cant ask for anything better,and about the album anything i will say about it will be too little. Masterpiece,best part for me is the second chapter of the "Sons of Winter And Stars"
Until the End - 16.10.2012 at 15:44  
Rating: 9 Supposedly, Teemu said on a live chat last night that there'll be more guitar solo's on Time II which I'm hoping is true.
Death_95 - 16.10.2012 at 16:29  
Rating: 10 I listened to it, amazing!
BaneConall - 16.10.2012 at 19:08  
Rating: 9
Written by Until the End on 16.10.2012 at 15:44

Supposedly, Teemu said on a live chat last night that there'll be more guitar solo's on Time II which I'm hoping is true.

Me too. This album seems to be missing a lot of the technicality that I liked in the debut.
Array - 16.10.2012 at 22:33  
Rating: 10 I'm going to wait until Friday, but if you folks want to stream this album with good sound quality, visit their website tomorrow: http://www.wintersun.fi/
Windir2010 - 17.10.2012 at 04:38  
 
Written by blindg on 15.10.2012 at 23:35

Written by Unhealer on 15.10.2012 at 22:57

Written by blindg on 15.10.2012 at 22:33

What a dumb idea it was to split in two!


Actually it was damn clever.
He'll probably have the two Time albums in several "Best of" lists both in 2012 and 2013, what brings us a brand new pack of Wintersun fanboys and Jari/Nuclear Blast the moneyz.
He said it himself: "To keep the band visible longer" or something around those lines.



It may be good for marketing or whatever, but not for listening pleasure. It will stay in my player for a few days maybe, until the same happens with part 2.


I would say its more the result of the pressure of the fans to finally release something. Also he did not want to cancel more shows and at the same time have more material for them.
MetalSpider - 17.10.2012 at 06:05  
Rating: 9 I will say this...the guitar work in Time I isn't as amazing (though the guitar work is still awesome) as their debut but hopefully (judging by the comments about Time II above) that the second will have more guitar work reminiscent of the their debut. I just listened to Battle Against Time and shat in my pants at the guitar work.
jester_race - 17.10.2012 at 08:32  
Rating: 10 Protectors of REAL metal....you and your metal-infused agitated genitals will hate this.
jester_race - 17.10.2012 at 08:33  
Rating: 10 A fucking masterpiece. Jari is a sick motherfucker.
HumanSpirit - 17.10.2012 at 09:05  
Rating: 9 Sick. Epic. Jari is a Monster. Period.
HumanSpirit - 17.10.2012 at 09:09  
Rating: 9
Written by jester_race on 17.10.2012 at 08:32

Protectors of REAL metal....you and your metal-infused agitated genitals will hate this.


LOL. True.

This is pure music, this is art.
BudDa - 17.10.2012 at 16:05  
  Meh! Whelmed. Slightly whelmed....
Ellrohir - 17.10.2012 at 17:05  
  This album is joke about music...and from reactions here we can see that the fanboyism just have reached another level
Lit. - 17.10.2012 at 17:44  
  Sounds like Wintersun lost more than half their fans with the exceedingly long interval between the albums. Not that it matters. Go back to Ensiferum, Jari. At least then, you had artwork that didn't look like a Japanese video game cover.
Warman - 17.10.2012 at 18:08  
Rating: 9
Written by Lit. on 17.10.2012 at 17:44

At least then, you had artwork that didn't look like a Japanese video game cover.

I've never heard of an artwork getting more crap than this one. And it's ridiculous in my opinion. People are grasping after anything to complain about. Do most of you even buy the album? I bet not. So why the hell do you care?
Believe me, I am in no way one of those "defenders of Wintersun", I've been laughing at Jari for years too and been mocking this album. Even though, or possibly because of, I loved the first album when it came out. But to mock Wintersun for having worse artwork than Ensiferum? That's just stupid. BTW, for example, the first Ensiferum album? Not that awesome if you ask me. Old finnish dude, standing in a boat.
Lit. - 17.10.2012 at 18:26  
 
Written by Warman on 17.10.2012 at 18:08

Old finnish dude, standing in a boat.

...Which to me is better than an epiphantic vomiting of colors as shown on this artwork. I never cared for Ensiferum and their pale folk metal, but for some reason that escapes me, I've always appreciated their artwork. Even though the one for Unsung Heroes was practically ripped from the s/t and recolored, I still liked it.
Until the End - 17.10.2012 at 19:43  
Rating: 9 Quoted from facebook;

Quote:
"There are many albums less than 40 minutes with much less "stuff" in them. There are albums with only 1 or 2 songs. So I think criticism that it´s too short is a bit unfair. And if "When Time Fades Away" and "Darkness and Frost" isn´t your cup of tea, I can understand that, but for me they are one of the highlights in my life. But also think of it this way, soon you´ll get another 40 minutes and it will contain 7 guitar solos. So I hope you enjoy TIME I what it is and not what it isn´t. Thanks for all the great compliments though! Warms my frozen heart! -Jari"
Vombatus - 17.10.2012 at 21:30  
Rating: 3 Unremarkable.... I always thought their debut was average stuff, but this one is just dull. One of the only positive things of the band was the somewhat cool guitar work, but on this one it's just boring as hell... plus the orchestration abuse kills it.
Slayer666 - 17.10.2012 at 21:59  
  I have to listen to this ASAP, so I know just what I'm hating on.
Risto - 17.10.2012 at 22:29  
Rating: 7
Written by Warman on 17.10.2012 at 18:08

BTW, for example, the first Ensiferum album? Not that awesome if you ask me. Old finnish dude, standing in a boat.

Väinämöinen. At least it's an obvious thematical reference.
blindg - 17.10.2012 at 22:33  
 
Written by Until the End on 17.10.2012 at 19:43

Quoted from facebook;

Quote:
"There are many albums less than 40 minutes with much less "stuff" in them. There are albums with only 1 or 2 songs. So I think criticism that it´s too short is a bit unfair. And if "When Time Fades Away" and "Darkness and Frost" isn´t your cup of tea, I can understand that, but for me they are one of the highlights in my life. But also think of it this way, soon you´ll get another 40 minutes and it will contain 7 guitar solos. So I hope you enjoy TIME I what it is and not what it isn´t. Thanks for all the great compliments though! Warms my frozen heart! -Jari"




He didn't mention how many instrumental non-songs will be on Time II.
Boxcar Willy - 18.10.2012 at 00:21  
Rating: 5
Written by Slayer666 on 17.10.2012 at 21:59

I have to listen to this ASAP, so I know just what I'm hating on.

Pretty much
crucifiedjesus - 18.10.2012 at 02:46  
  Over Produced!
Dentura - 18.10.2012 at 06:26  
Rating: 8 This album is glorious. I haven't waited quite as long as most other people (I heard about Wintersun almost 2 years ago), but this album definitely exceeded my expectations and is my personal album of the year (only behind Beyond The Bridge's debut, that album is just fucking beautiful)! Amazing stuff, looking forward to Part 2.
Aw Yiss - 18.10.2012 at 12:10  
Rating: 10 I agree with all critics saying this album is less technical, lacks awesome solos and riffs that the debut had. But that doesn't make Time 1 less than a majestic and immeasurably epic journey of mind.
It depends on what were you expecting; fast and aggressive stuff OR epic compositions. Maybe if this wasn't split into 2 parts we would have both.
Ellrohir - 18.10.2012 at 13:59  
 
Written by Aw Yiss on 18.10.2012 at 12:10

It depends on what were you expecting


i expected memorable stuff...i got random tunes, that i forgot as soon as they stopped playing...
Qube - 18.10.2012 at 15:42  
Rating: 7 Nice but short

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