Rasputin
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Coming from a man who lives in Morocco to talk about evolution. Facepalm.
@Troy
It is not my problem that you refuse to see the real issue. Where are your moderate and normal feminists to argue against the feminazis who threatened the Conference on Male Issues? There were none. You keep talking about these peaceful equality loving feminists, but I keep having hard time to find them as I am with peace loving muslims.
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
Ilham isn't a man... :/
"It isn't my problem that you refuse to see the real issue." I could say the exact same about you. You focus on one isolated incident by extremists and use that as a means to judge an entire movement? "Moderate and normal" feminists speak out against acts of extremism all the time. They hold protests, they rally, they blog, they upload videos, they create awareness campaigns on social networking sites - in fact I'd argue "moderate and normal" feminists do more against acts of extremism than you ever will. You choose to see what you want and I can't make you see things differently because it's ultimately your choice.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.06.2014 at 19:28
Ilham isn't a man... :/
"It isn't my problem that you refuse to see the real issue." I could say the exact same about you. You focus on one isolated incident by extremists and use that as a means to judge an entire movement? "Moderate and normal" feminists speak out against acts of extremism all the time. They hold protests, they rally, they blog, they upload videos, they create awareness campaigns on social networking sites - in fact I'd argue "moderate and normal" feminists do more against acts of extremism than you ever will. You choose to see what you want and I can't make you see things differently because it's ultimately your choice.
Actually Rasputin is as extreme as the extremists he is advocating against by using his total bigotted hate speech.
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Ilham Giant robot
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Written by Rasputin on 23.06.2014 at 19:21
Coming from a man who lives in Morocco to talk about evolution. Facepalm.
I am not even going to be offended, the level of stupidity/racism is beneath me. I'm just going to laugh at your inability to tell the difference between the male and female universal pictogram.
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Rasputin
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 23.06.2014 at 19:28
Ilham isn't a man... :/
"It isn't my problem that you refuse to see the real issue." I could say the exact same about you. You focus on one isolated incident by extremists and use that as a means to judge an entire movement? "Moderate and normal" feminists speak out against acts of extremism all the time. They hold protests, they rally, they blog, they upload videos, they create awareness campaigns on social networking sites - in fact I'd argue "moderate and normal" feminists do more against acts of extremism than you ever will. You choose to see what you want and I can't make you see things differently because it's ultimately your choice.
Where are these videos, where are these rants, where are these things on Facebook? They are not there. The only thing that I see, and I monitor a crap load of Feminist groups is the same old bullshit about white male privilege, rape culture and other bullshit. No thought, no reason or logic, just faith for the lack of a better word. We are talking about how Brianne in GoT is depicted as ugly because she's a feminists, women can't be considered bossy, it is empowering to be a part of facial abuse porn, it is empowering to go from teaching on a PhD level to be a stripper...The list is endless. It seems to me that you have no idea what you are talking about. I am yet to see anything that truly stands for equality and it is not a passive aggressive attack on the males or some nonsense topic.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
I'm right there with you Marcel.
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Mattybu
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I think Rasputin's problem is the "feminists" he has gotten exposure are all on the internet, and on the internet people can blog all the stupid shit they want, and go ahead and say "if you see a woman walking down the street and stare at them for 3.4 seconds or more it's RAPE AM I RIGHT LADIES???" and then they get a few dumb people to support them, then that's what some people's exposure to it is. Despite there being a small army of people who just take feminism to ridiculous extents the whole idea of it is equality, which I would think a lot of people don't believe simply because of the amount of so called feminists posting stupid shit online who give the goal of what feminism actually is (equality) a bad name.
and here's what I mean by the people who have no idea what they are talking about, and deserve to be thoroughly laughed at:
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Ilham Giant robot
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Haha. Gold. Here comes the sexist comment: she's cute, but she should shut up.
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Slayer666
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Written by Ilham on 23.06.2014 at 22:09
Haha. Gold. Here comes the sexist comment: she's cute, but she should shut up.
She's nowhere near cute, but yeah, needs to shut up.
God I wish this whole male vs female thing wasn't an issue in the twenty fucking first century. Yes, we're different. No, it's not a reason to not be equal. No, it doesn't mean that one gender is to blame with everything wrong with society. We're all equally shit.
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angel. Evil Butterfly
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Written by Slayer666 on 25.06.2014 at 01:44
God I wish this whole male vs female thing wasn't an issue in the twenty fucking first century. Yes, we're different. No, it's not a reason to not be equal. No, it doesn't mean that one gender is to blame with everything wrong with society. We're all equally shit.
God, I wish this whole male vs female thing known as feminism could be totally removed ! What did they teach you at schools !!! pff ! Feminism is not the clash of genders.
hey I know your comment had a funny tone, but please !
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Slayer666
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Written by angel. on 25.06.2014 at 10:36
God, I wish this whole male vs female thing known as feminism could be totally removed ! What did they teach you at schools !!! pff ! Feminism is not the clash of genders.
I wasn't talking about feminism. At all. I don't know how you got that idea.
I was referring to its bastardized cousin, feminazism, that often gets confused with actual feminism.
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angel. Evil Butterfly
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Written by Slayer666 on 25.06.2014 at 12:27
I wasn't talking about feminism. At all. I don't know how you got that idea.
I was referring to its bastardized cousin, feminazism, that often gets confused with actual feminism.
ok
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Ganondox
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Written by Slayer666 on 25.06.2014 at 01:44
Written by Ilham on 23.06.2014 at 22:09
Haha. Gold. Here comes the sexist comment: she's cute, but she should shut up.
She's nowhere near cute, but yeah, needs to shut up.
Yes she is. Anyway, I'm really wondering what the hell her argument is, haha.
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IronAngel
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Stoned Crow
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Feminism is sorta broad, in and of itself. Not all feminist agree with each other; it's merely a means of empowering women, to speak about women and for women. Some feminists believe a man has no right to conduct himself in feminist discourse, while other feminist find it essential that men contribute. It's merely a label, and as a label it often solidifies a wide set of interpretations into one entity; however, if one were to look into feminist studies they would quickly understand that the topic is not black and white. Women are diverse, and consequently feminism is just as diverse.
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Ilham Giant robot
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Written by IronAngel on 25.06.2014 at 21:32
Sarcasm.
Your heads.
Thank you for seeing that.
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Shit, even Stevie Wonder saw it. :
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Ilham Giant robot
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 26.06.2014 at 14:04
Shit, even Stevie Wonder saw it. :
Not those guys arguing if she is cute or not and if she should shut up or not. It's quite funny in a thread dedicated to the subject of feminism .
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Ganondox
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Written by Ilham on 26.06.2014 at 14:09
Written by X-Ray Rod on 26.06.2014 at 14:04
Shit, even Stevie Wonder saw it. :
Not those guys arguing if she is cute or not and if she should shut up or not. It's quite funny in a thread dedicated to the subject of feminism .
Wait, was she being sarcastic or you?
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IronAngel
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Well, you can safely assume Ilham was. It is, of course, always possible that the girl in the picture does not realize that the sign is nonsensical, but lacking any context, it seems blatantly sarcastic. Her point seems to be to draw attention from social issues like feminism to (in her mind) a much more pressing problem that potentially affects our survival as a species; or more crudely, just to make fun of feminism.
Either way, of course, it's a pretty stupid statement.
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Ilham Giant robot
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Written by Ganondox on 26.06.2014 at 16:42
Wait, was she being sarcastic or you?
I was .
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Slayer666
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Advanced stupidity often gets mistook for advanced sarcasm.
(talking about that chick, not Ilham)
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That is pretty advanced stupidity if she is serious.
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Mattybu
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Written by IronAngel on 26.06.2014 at 17:14
It is, of course, always possible that the girl in the picture does not realize that the sign is nonsensical, but lacking any context, it seems blatantly sarcastic. Her point seems to be to draw attention from social issues like feminism to (in her mind) a much more pressing problem that potentially affects our survival as a species; or more crudely, just to make fun of feminism.
That explanation works, but I tend not to give the teenagers of the world today too much credit. Getting behind nonsensical causes they know nothing about is what they do best. If I had to make an honest guess I'd say the girl holding the sign is serious. Kids are quick to get behind some social justice cause these days that they don't actually care about, as things like the Kony 2012 debacle/comedy fest show. Although I guess we never really know if the sign being held is sarcastic or not. I found it funny anyways.
Also the reason why I find the vast majority of the "#killallmen" feminazis to be younger, most reasonable adults are sort of past that way of thinking, although not all are.
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Written by Mattybu on 26.06.2014 at 21:33
That explanation works, but I tend not to give the teenagers of the world today too much credit. Getting behind nonsensical causes they know nothing about is what they do best. If I had to make an honest guess I'd say the girl holding the sign is serious. Kids are quick to get behind some social justice cause these days that they don't actually care about, as things like the Kony 2012 debacle/comedy fest show. Although I guess we never really know if the sign being held is sarcastic or not. I found it funny anyways.
Also the reason why I find the vast majority of the "#killallmen" feminazis to be younger, most reasonable adults are sort of past that way of thinking, although not all are.
so true, i'm always getting told whats up with the world/ political issues and getting tips on how to live your life by teenagers these days, especially on forums.
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Ganondox
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Written by IronAngel on 26.06.2014 at 17:14
Well, you can safely assume Ilham was. It is, of course, always possible that the girl in the picture does not realize that the sign is nonsensical, but lacking any context, it seems blatantly sarcastic. Her point seems to be to draw attention from social issues like feminism to (in her mind) a much more pressing problem that potentially affects our survival as a species; or more crudely, just to make fun of feminism.
Either way, of course, it's a pretty stupid statement.
That makes sense, I figured IIham wasn't being serious as she is a girl and the preface she gave to the comment, but the girl in the pic is still cute.
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Rasputin
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Written by Mattybu on 23.06.2014 at 21:25
I think Rasputin's problem is the "feminists" he has gotten exposure are all on the internet, and on the internet people can blog all the stupid shit they want, and go ahead and say "if you see a woman walking down the street and stare at them for 3.4 seconds or more it's RAPE AM I RIGHT LADIES???" and then they get a few dumb people to support them, then that's what some people's exposure to it is. Despite there being a small army of people who just take feminism to ridiculous extents the whole idea of it is equality, which I would think a lot of people don't believe simply because of the amount of so called feminists posting stupid shit online who give the goal of what feminism actually is (equality) a bad name.
and here's what I mean by the people who have no idea what they are talking about, and deserve to be thoroughly laughed at:
My problem is that in the entire movement there is no common sense, or an actual cohesive movement to speak off. Every dumb individual who poses as a feminist all of a sudden becomes a sage for the fragmented pockets of so called feminists that they in turn go into herd mentality and start supporting dumb shit. Like Slayer said, "if a guy looks at you for 3.5 seconds, he is Eye Raping you" and that is demeaning to women, yet going into porn, prostitution or stripping gives you a sense of honor because that gives you back your "female agency," like someone took it from you. The sad aspect is that you cannot tell feminists and feminazis apart, since they feed off each other, and they puff, puff, pass their bullshit. I have been to so many conferences where there were tons of women who label themselves feminists, and there were quite a few feminazis, however, the problem is that they don't police each other live, let alone online. So when that bullshit popped up YESallwomen and the like, you can't seem to find anyone to debate the issue. I just think if the feminists from the past were here and now, they would not believe or condone what is going on today, since like I said before, porn industry infiltrated the so called "women empowerment" movement that it seems the only way you can get back that feminine agency is to be a whore, and condone acts of one Belle Knox and call it liberating.
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Rasputin
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Watched it, interesting.
This is very interesting too, from your "normal" feminists
http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/10/unlearning-patriarchal-lies/
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