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Posted by Koen Smits, 27.07.2012 - 18:41
Here you can discuss every minute of the 2012 London Summer Olympics.
08.08.2012 - 15:30
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 08.08.2012 at 15:01

Written by Spirit Molecule on 08.08.2012 at 11:25
Most of the athletes for the Olympics are from a poorer background.

Perhaps the athletes themselves come from a poor background, but the countries that are sending them are economically stable.


True, but when a country doesn't provide enough funding for these athletes, it doesn't really matter.
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08.08.2012 - 15:47
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Written by Spirit Molecule on 08.08.2012 at 15:30
True, but when a country doesn't provide enough funding for these athletes, it doesn't really matter.

That's what I'm saying, it's up to the country to send and fund the athletes, so their background is usually irrelevant. Countries with more money can put money into their sports programs, whereas countries without have to prioritize and at the end of the day, athletic funding is a luxury, not a necessity.
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08.08.2012 - 16:15
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 08.08.2012 at 15:47

That's what I'm saying, it's up to the country to send and fund the athletes, so their background is usually irrelevant. Countries with more money can put money into their sports programs, whereas countries without have to prioritize and at the end of the day, athletic funding is a luxury, not a necessity.


Well with India, I'm sure there is funding, but, by the time it reaches the athletes, half of it is eaten up by the higher ups.
Which brings me back to Marcel's point. It's not about the country being poor, but about the corruption level.
I don't think it is a luxury either, if you're not willing to spend on developing your athletes, don't even bother sending them to compete.
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08.08.2012 - 16:40
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Written by Spirit Molecule on 08.08.2012 at 16:15
...if you're not willing to spend on developing your athletes, don't even bother sending them to compete.

Well you have to fund your athletes in order for them to be eligible to compete. If you're say, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and you only invest a meager amount of money into a specific sports program for training, equipment, etc. and your athletes aren't able to say, run a marathon quick enough to qualify for the Olympics, then you're not going to have any athletes to send.

This is in part why China and the United States are always at or near the top of the charts in terms of total medals: because they have a large population, enormous funding for their athletes, and in addition to that they still use the Olympic stage for political warfare (democracy is better than a dictatorship and all that nonsense).
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08.08.2012 - 17:04
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If my fifth grade paper was correct, I'm pretty sure Canada provides no finacial support to our athletes apart from the plane ticket there. :/
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08.08.2012 - 17:10
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 08.08.2012 at 16:40

Well you have to fund your athletes in order for them to be eligible to compete. If you're say, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and you only invest a meager amount of money into a specific sports program for training, equipment, etc. and your athletes aren't able to say, run a marathon quick enough to qualify for the Olympics, then you're not going to have any athletes to send.

This is in part why China and the United States are always at or near the top of the charts in terms of total medals: because they have a large population, enormous funding for their athletes, and in addition to that they still use the Olympic stage for political warfare (democracy is better than a dictatorship and all that nonsense).


Isn't that what I said? Well apart from using the Olympic stage for political warfare
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08.08.2012 - 17:11
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Written by Boxcar Willy on 08.08.2012 at 17:04
If my fifth grade paper was correct, I'm pretty sure Canada provides no finacial support to our athletes apart from the plane ticket there. :/

Either times have changed or your paper was wrong - our federal government subsidizes all of our Olympic athletes, and those who medal receive additional prize money. I think you have to place in the top six or the top eight in order to receive a bonus, but as a Canadian amateur athlete training to compete in the Olympics, your training costs are covered by the government.
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08.08.2012 - 17:14
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Written by Spirit Molecule on 08.08.2012 at 17:10
Isn't that what I said? Well apart from using the Olympic stage for political warfare

Well you said not to bother sending them if you don't support them financially - I was just pointing out that it's not a matter of picking and choosing. It's not like you call the Olympic committee and say hey, I've got an athlete here who wants to race against Usain Bolt. His best time in the 100m is about 15 seconds, but we're gonna send him anyway.

That runner has to officially break a set time in order for his country to even have the option of sending him.
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08.08.2012 - 17:15
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 08.08.2012 at 17:11

Written by Boxcar Willy on 08.08.2012 at 17:04
If my fifth grade paper was correct, I'm pretty sure Canada provides no finacial support to our athletes apart from the plane ticket there. :/

Either times have changed or your paper was wrong - our federal government subsidizes all of our Olympic athletes, and those who medal receive additional prize money. I think you have to place in the top six or the top eight in order to receive a bonus, but as a Canadian amateur athlete training to compete in the Olympics, your training costs are covered by the government.

Well, times have changed, I think I got a B+ on the paper C:

It's good that our government supports our athletes, I can imagine why'd I'd even go if I had to pay my own way there, I'd rather go to the World championships for my sport then
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08.08.2012 - 17:55
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 08.08.2012 at 17:14

That runner has to officially break a set time in order for his country to even have the option of sending him.


the strange thing is that qualifying times or distances or whatever aren't in place for all sports. For some sports, like athletics they are in place, but for example for swimming they aren't
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08.08.2012 - 17:56
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Written by Boxcar Willy on 08.08.2012 at 17:15

It's good that our government supports our athletes, I can imagine why'd I'd even go if I had to pay my own way there, I'd rather go to the World championships for my sport then


Your government has been supporting its athletes financially and such from before the Montreal Olympics, so from before you were even a glimmer in your dad's eyes
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08.08.2012 - 18:00
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.08.2012 at 17:56

Written by Boxcar Willy on 08.08.2012 at 17:15

It's good that our government supports our athletes, I can imagine why'd I'd even go if I had to pay my own way there, I'd rather go to the World championships for my sport then


Your government has been supporting its athletes financially and such from before the Montreal Olympics, so from before you were even a glimmer in your dad's eyes


In my paper it said that they're aren't paid for their training, thus training and jobs and school interfere with each other, my paper was an arguement stating that the government should provide aid for it's training athletes.
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08.08.2012 - 18:09
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Written by Boxcar Willy on 08.08.2012 at 18:00

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.08.2012 at 17:56

Written by Boxcar Willy on 08.08.2012 at 17:15

It's good that our government supports our athletes, I can imagine why'd I'd even go if I had to pay my own way there, I'd rather go to the World championships for my sport then


Your government has been supporting its athletes financially and such from before the Montreal Olympics, so from before you were even a glimmer in your dad's eyes


In my paper it said that they're aren't paid for their training, thus training and jobs and school interfere with each other, my paper was an arguement stating that the government should provide aid for it's training athletes.


you got a b+ for that? no substraction of point for writing "aid for it's training athletes."?

All kidding aside almost no country pays their athletes fully for training and such. They give them a small grant to make up for travelling expenses and coaching costs and loads of times that subsidy isn't enough by far. SO athletes still have to seek out private sponsors.
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08.08.2012 - 18:12
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.08.2012 at 18:09

In my paper it said that they're aren't paid for their training, thus training and jobs and school interfere with each other, my paper was an arguement stating that the government should provide aid for it's training athletes.


you got a b+ for that? no substraction of point for writing "aid for it's training athletes."?

All kidding aside almost no country pays their athletes fully for training and such. They give them a small grant to make up for travelling expenses and coaching costs and loads of times that subsidy isn't enough by far. SO athletes still have to seek out private sponsors.


>_>

It was fifth grade.

Anyway, lets talk about the actual games

I was watching the gymnastic bar thingy, and was expecting some girl to smash her face on the bar and lose like 6 teeth... never happened
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08.08.2012 - 18:27
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Written by Boxcar Willy on 08.08.2012 at 18:12


I was watching the gymnastic bar thingy, and was expecting some girl to smash her face on the bar and lose like 6 teeth... never happened







Yesterday I expected the Dutchman Epke Zonderland , to fall flat on his face as well, which he usually does in big finals. But low and behold he didn't and het managed to pull off the triple element and land on his feet. First to ever pull off the triple flight element in a competition. But afterwards in an interview for Dutch tv he admitted it almost went all wrong. His hand slipped just after the third flight element and he could barely hold on
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08.08.2012 - 19:23
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Bad luck Russia. Yelena Isinbayeva failed to retain her title. Indeed, it was a terrible performance from her side and I think she gonna return in Rio strongly.
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08.08.2012 - 19:26
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Written by Cynic Metalhead on 08.08.2012 at 19:23

Bad luck Russia. Yelena Isinbayeva failed to retain her title. Indeed, it was a terrible performance from her side and I think she gonna return in Rio strongly.


She failed to do so about two or three days ago. You're a bit late with the news
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08.08.2012 - 19:46
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.08.2012 at 19:26

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 08.08.2012 at 19:23

Bad luck Russia. Yelena Isinbayeva failed to retain her title. Indeed, it was a terrible performance from her side and I think she gonna return in Rio strongly.


She failed to do so about two or three days ago. You're a bit late with the news


LAWL, yeah. I should have put in brackets saying ( I know I'm late). Well,....hang on....two or three days ago? I guess I saw her event last night( on 7th Aug) only. Wait, Are you guys are ahead from India?
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08.08.2012 - 19:58
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Written by Cynic Metalhead on 08.08.2012 at 19:46


LAWL, yeah. I should have put in brackets saying ( I know I'm late). Well,....hang on....two or three days ago? I guess I saw her event last night( on 7th Aug) only. Wait, Are you guys are ahead from India?


the qualification for the women's pole vault was on AUgust 4 and the final was on August 6 (so, last Monday)
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08.08.2012 - 21:53
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Written by Cynic Metalhead on 08.08.2012 at 19:46

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.08.2012 at 19:26

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 08.08.2012 at 19:23

Bad luck Russia. Yelena Isinbayeva failed to retain her title. Indeed, it was a terrible performance from her side and I think she gonna return in Rio strongly.


She failed to do so about two or three days ago. You're a bit late with the news


LAWL, yeah. I should have put in brackets saying ( I know I'm late). Well,....hang on....two or three days ago? I guess I saw her event last night( on 7th Aug) only. Wait, Are you guys are ahead from India?


Don't you know Europe is like a day ahead of us ? So they see the future
Ask Marcel who won the Olympics, he'd probably know already.
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08.08.2012 - 22:13
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Written by Spirit Molecule on 08.08.2012 at 21:53


Ask Marcel who won the Olympics, he'd probably know already.


Just like in 2008 China
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09.08.2012 - 00:54
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.08.2012 at 22:41

There are currently two theories going explaining Australia's poor performance


This conversation was going on in cricket after they lost back to back Ashe's. How they've went from the likes of Merv Hughes who sledged an swore at batsman after nearly ever ball, to McGrath who was a Merv-light, only far more clinical an better to now, Mitchell Johnson who has beautiful flower tattoos an goes into his shell when things get tough. There health an safety culture (my uncle says he couldn't light a fart without filling in 3 forms with a fire extinguisher close by), to the fact the Aussies are flush with mining cash. There alot richer these days per-person. "Who cares we're not cronic sporting overachievers, ive just got a new snooker table an bigger pool".
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09.08.2012 - 02:52
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What a greta day , pitty latvia jawelers did not go to final, gate track n field events at eve
I was also watching Brazil 77- 82 Argentina basket ... a derby good game, , Im angry Lietuva lost to Russia, sinvce I always support Lietuva basket team (also kaunas Zalgiris and Lietuvas Rytras in Eurocups)
From basket I saw only Arg vs Bra

Argentina vs USA and Spain vs Russia
Once in WC in USA Argentina won USA and won gold or Yugoislavia won gold, but now I supose its be USA vs Spain in Final, I dont belive Russia will win secend time Spain

I was watching 2 handball games
Iceland 33-34 Hungary there was OT I have seen a lot of handball games but this si my 1th OT and 1th so close games, Iceland shood won, shood use chances

Sweden 24-22 Denmark what a scary derby game, I was nervose all the time,. all the time easyer was not wtach(I was watching) and look at result
Now we will play whit Hungary in semies it shood be easyer how whit Denmark, I hope so
France cs Croatia , I dunno, I hope no Croatia they were pain in ass in Atlanta in 1996 in final Swe lost

I was wtaching also Volley
Brazil 3-0 Arhentina
One more derby, when Arg lost game was in 1th set when was 8-15 I know there wont be chances win any single set .
I think Brazil vs Italy winner will get a gold in final

This was my day
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10.08.2012 - 01:37
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Alright! Bahamas came first in a relay (a heat). The USA was kneck and kneck with us, but we came out on top. I'm of course very happy that we beat Jamaica, but it's sad how it turned out for them though, the dude in their 3rd leg got injured......poor ole yardie.

The Bahamian problem seems to be that, we advance in the heats but still have trouble getting a gold medal of some kind.
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10.08.2012 - 02:52
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the Dutch male neach volleyball team had neevr ever lost to the Latvian team before this Olympicvs and now they lost twice and the last match meant the Latvians won bronze good on the Latvian congrats K7



Anyone see the semi finals in hockey between Great Britain and The Netherlands? Imo we should have humiiated them even further by scoring a 10th goal as well now we only won 9-2 hahahahahaha damn I really can't remember such a HUGE fucking defeat any time at all at any Olympic games and especially not during a semi final match. WOW Great Britain you really got your asses whooped immense big times.
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10.08.2012 - 02:57
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Another good day for GB with 3 golds in the bag, never thought we'd do as good as we have done. But saying that the likes of Russia/Australia haven't had a particularly good Olympics so far.

I also heard Muse are going to be in the Closing Ceremony performing their Olympic anthem, that should be pretty fun to watch!
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10.08.2012 - 03:00
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Written by Guest on 10.08.2012 at 02:57

Another good day for GB with 3 golds in the bag, never thought we'd do as good as we have done. But saying that the likes of Russia/Australia haven't had a particularly good Olympics so far.

I also heard Muse are going to be in the Closing Ceremony performing their Olympic anthem, that should be pretty fun to watch!


but did you see how you were annihilated by our hockey players?
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10.08.2012 - 03:02
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 10.08.2012 at 03:00

but did you see how you were annihilated by our hockey players?


Thankfully not I was going to watch it but since I know the score now, I'll happily give the highlights a miss
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10.08.2012 - 03:12
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Also I just want to ask if anyone knows why they give 2 bronze medals in Boxing events? I assume it's possibly because they don't want to go through the hassle of another fight, so the only fair way is to give it to them both, unless it's something totally different
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10.08.2012 - 03:20
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Written by Guest on 10.08.2012 at 03:12

Also I just want to ask if anyone knows why they give 2 bronze medals in Boxing events? I assume it's possibly because they don't want to go through the hassle of another fight, so the only fair way is to give it to them both, unless it's something totally different



KIdo also has two bronze medals but people still have to fight for it hahahah
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