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Holy crap, just heard some samples, seems awesome  and the review makes me want it more |
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| I never really got into Paradise Lost or My Dying Bride because I'm not really into the doom genre much but I've been a fan of Adrian Erlandsson for a long time which is why I checked that song out and I am glad I did because the song was pretty damn good and I was interested in this album but wasn't sure if I wanted to get it or not since I don't usually care for the doom genre but this review definitely makes me want to give this release a full on chance so I am going to get this asap and give it a few spins... |
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Written by psykometal on 23.10.2011 at 21:28
I never really got into Paradise Lost or My Dying Bride because I'm not really into the doom genre much but I've been a fan of Adrian Erlandsson for a long time which is why I checked that song out and I am glad I did because the song was pretty damn good and I was interested in this album but wasn't sure if I wanted to get it or not since I don't usually care for the doom genre but this review definitely makes me want to give this release a full on chance so I am going to get this asap and give it a few spins...
There was a reason why I didn't mention those bands in my review. I don't care for them either, but either way they have no bearing on this album at all - completely different band. |
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My Dying Bride have no bearing on this album, indeed. But Paradise Lost actually does. Namely the very early Paradise Lost sound of their demo days which had loads of death metal in it and Gregor's guitar sound is quite similar to his sound of those days.
But of course Vallenfyre is totally not a doom band. It pure old school revivalist death metal with some doomy parts just like what death metal was back in the day and what loads of old school revivalist death metal have been playing before Vallenfyre came to be. |
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| Desecration was good and I will be getting this for sure, Nice review. |
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Marcel is right, there's a lot of old Paradise Lost stuff going on here.
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 23.10.2011 at 23:46
But of course Vallenfyre is totally not a doom band. It pure old school revivalist death metal with some doomy parts just like what death metal was back in the day and what loads of old school revivalist death metal have been playing before Vallenfyre came to be.
Which is why I don't understand how someone gives this album a 9 for originality... I mean... Seriously?
Good album and all that jazz, greatly executed and all.. So the other ratings I can agree with but originality is no way more than a 6 unless you've never heard old school death metal in your life. 
/end of my rant
I want this album, Old-Paradise Lost-like death metal is delicious. |
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| I still feel some newschool paradise lost in there as well. From what I've heard so far, this sounds real good, and I'm not usually all that into death metal either. Looking forward to hearing it all. Kudos to Greg Mackintosh in dealing with the pain and making something creative out of it all. |
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If Greg can growl, we doesn't he handle the growls on Paradise Lost's live shows, instead of Nick's pretty awkward attempts at doing so? Not growling on "Gothic" kills the song.
But enough of my butt-hurt bitching, I'm eager to hear this one too. |
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| Bloodbath called, they want their old guitar tone and riffs back. |
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| Can't hear any doom in this... but I only managed to find two songs... what can I say? Polished production, boring mainstream sound... they obviously run out of beer money... |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 25.10.2011 at 12:02
Bloodbath called, they want their old guitar tone and riffs back.
Entombed called, they want their guitar tone and riffs back that Bloodbath took.
Btw: The sound of this album is really similar if not the same as Paradise Lost's demos and debut album so I wouldn't comment about bands like Bloodbath at all  |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 25.10.2011 at 16:47
Entombed called, they want their guitar tone and riffs back that Bloodbath took away.
Btw: The sound of this album is really similar if not the same as Paradise Lost's demos and debut album so I wouldn't comment about bands like Bloodbath at all
Except the tone sounds nothing like Paradise Lost's first album. PL's is much deeper and cleaner and has less reverb and is pretty bog standard, sounds like loads of other bands. You're making that connection because of that band members, on a pure sound basis this is a totally early Bloodbath, that struck me within the first couple of seconds. Same with Entombed to a lesser extent, a much less distinctive sound. |
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Written by Mr. Doctor on 25.10.2011 at 17:06
Only deathcore is real then.
At the end of humanity only deathcore will remain.
Incidentally listening through this album now and there's no doom here. A few slowish sections but seems entirely old school death. It's ok but far from spectacular. |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 25.10.2011 at 17:33
Incidentally listening through this album now and there's no doom here. A few slowish sections but seems entirely old school death.
That's why I said "doomy parts"
It is a decent album, but that's it. Think it will end up at an 8 for me.
But totally not original. Like Mr. Doctor said originality a 6 at most. I think i would settle for a 5 in that respect. But for a genre such as Vallenfyre operates in originality is nicht im/am (hell never know which one hahaha) frage.
And to me this smells like a cash grab. why start an old school death metal band now (consisting of band members from quite well known bands) when old school death metal is blossoming like never before. |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.10.2011 at 17:46
And to me this smells like a cash grab. why start an old school death metal band now (consisting of band members from quite well known bands) when old school death metal is blossoming like never before.
What doesn't smell like a cashgrab to you Marcel?
At the very least he has an excuse. He wanted to write music after the passing of his father. |
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.10.2011 at 21:33
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.10.2011 at 17:46
And to me this smells like a cash grab. why start an old school death metal band now (consisting of band members from quite well known bands) when old school death metal is blossoming like never before.
What doesn't smell like a cashgrab to you Marcel?
At the very least he has an excuse. He wanted to write music after the passing of his father.
Call me a totally cynical old fuck, but I think he just uses as an excuse to generate even more 
The times I have seen thigs like that happen in the music world... |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.10.2011 at 21:36
Call me a totally cynical old fuck
You're a totally cynical old fuck.
But ya, there is a chance you're right. I mean nobody really knows except for him, if he sat down and thought...I can make money off of this. I can use my father's death as an inspiration story and my own name to sell some additional copies. Then again, he could be genuinely doing what he wants to as a result of a tragic loss. Who knows. |
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His motives are probably good, but it's still pretty lame stuff... some people get better with age... he's getting too polished...  Still, I'd like to make an album like that when I'm 80... |
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Written by Merchant of Doom on 26.10.2011 at 00:23
His motives are probably good, but it's still pretty lame stuff... some people get better with age... he's getting too polished... Still, I'd like to make an album like that when I'm 80...
Well this Vallenfyre is superior to anything he did with Paradise Lost after Draconian Times.
And like someone said, why the hell dooesn't Greg due the growl vocals live instead of Nick trying his lame versions? |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 26.10.2011 at 00:26
Well this Vallenfyre is superior to anything he did with Paradise Lost after Draconian Times.
doesn't take much... |
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Written by Baz Anderson on 23.10.2011 at 23:37
Written by psykometal on 23.10.2011 at 21:28
There was a reason why I didn't mention those bands in my review. I don't care for them either, but either way they have no bearing on this album at all - completely different band.
Ah I see, fair enough. Yea I'm looking forward to getting this... |
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| This album would certainly be a 9 if I heard it in the 90's. Crunchy, juicy, catchy, obnoxiously pleasant and straightforwardly unpretentious. It sounds like the Sunlight Studios release too, with Tomas Skogsberg sound all over. But it's 2011 now, and I can't help thinking that Mr Mackintosh just wants to earn a few extra bucks by jumping on the revivalist bandwagon. He does it with class though! |
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| Pretty boring; doesn't do anything to stand out from any of the other (several) revivalist death metal albums released this year. Decent for the atmosphere alone, but nothing more. |
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Written by !J.O.O.E.! on 25.10.2011 at 12:02
Bloodbath called, they want their old guitar tone and riffs back.
Btw Celtic Frost called as well they want half of the songs back |
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 29.10.2011 at 20:54
Pretty boring; doesn't do anything to stand out from any of the other (several) revivalist death metal albums released this year. Decent for the atmosphere alone, but nothing more.
I actually find it lacking in the atmosphere department. |
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Slinky666 - 25.11.2011 at 02:40
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I like "brave" metal. More productions like this and we can crush pop culture with our metal machinery.  |
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Written by Guest on 25.11.2011 at 02:40
I like "brave" metal. More productions like this and we can crush pop culture with our metal machinery.
Brave this?  |
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| How have I not heard this yet. |
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Written by BoxCar Willy on 06.03.2012 at 22:12
How have I not heard this yet.
Out of all the revival wave of oldm bands, this one is one of the least inspiring if you ask me. |
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