Welcome teens , we're here to talk about everything

*Lights up a cigarette*

Okay... I'm also one of you.

Hold on.

I'll be back in two months.

Do I still count?

Of course, it's a discrete variable, You can't be anything other than 19 if you're 19 can you?

Same topic "Minor Metalstormers"
http://www.metalstorm.net/forum/topic.php?topic_id=24552

EDIT: "Minor Metalstormers" locked now.

Then let this be the young adults thread or something lol.

Continue here, the old, dead one is now locked.

Nice thread!
Ok, what should we talk about now?

Written by Gurth Bennas on 21.01.2011 at 12:03

Nice thread!
Ok, what should we talk about now?

Any smokers? Drinkers? Drug abusers users? xD

I smoke [cigarettes and spliffs], don't really enjoy drinking, but will go to the pub with mates and have a few beers.

@Vezzy: Where are you going?
@all: I have never ever smoked (so far.) I'm a Little Boozer, though.

Written by Elodie Artour on 21.01.2011 at 20:56

@all: I have never ever smoked (so far.) I'm a Little Boozer, though.

Same here.

18 still counts right? As for the drugs, yes pot and booze go great together

I'm a Great Little Boozer, and I had never tried smoking untill a month ago or something, when i was kinda drunk and well, it sucks.

Want to try some grass next.

Written by [user id=36287] on 22.01.2011 at 06:02

18 still counts right? As for the drugs, yes pot and booze go great together

Not if you have a lot of beer before you start smoking...there's a saying among the young adults in London

'Beer before draw,
You're on the floor,
Draw before beer,
You're in the clear'

I've done it the other way before, and the floor is where it leads you :|

Written by [user id=28338] on 22.01.2011 at 00:05

Hey Akvan there is no need of doing triple posts... we've got what you mean.

These fucking problems are from our fucking net speed , I removed all of my posts

Hey, isn't the combination alcohol+weed a bit dangerous? :

Well, yeah...both are 'dangerous' as they are lol.

Written by Elodie Artour on 22.01.2011 at 19:00

Hey, isn't the combination alcohol+weed a bit dangerous? :

If beleive so. Actually, I was really hesitant to try it. Damn peer presure!

Written by [user id=36287] on 23.01.2011 at 04:18

Written by Elodie Artour on 22.01.2011 at 19:00

Hey, isn't the combination alcohol+weed a bit dangerous? :

If beleive so. Actually, I was really hesitant to try it. Damn peer presure!

If you think about it logically, you'll understand why it can't be anymore dangerous than simply drinking/smoking in isolation.

Written by [user id=107773] on 23.01.2011 at 14:00

If you think about it logically, you'll understand why it can't be anymore dangerous than simply drinking/smoking in isolation.

I'm not supposed to be in this thread anymore, but I'm still wondering what makes you draw that conclusion. The mechanisms of physiology are far more complex than they would have to be to allow you to draw such a conclusion.

There are contless substances that when mixed together induce effects completely different than any of them do on their own. A well known example is the combination between alcohol and sleeping pills that really fucks you up big time.

Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 23.01.2011 at 14:31

Written by [user id=107773] on 23.01.2011 at 14:00

If you think about it logically, you'll understand why it can't be anymore dangerous than simply drinking/smoking in isolation.

I'm not supposed to be in this thread anymore, but I'm still wondering what makes you draw that conclusion. The mechanisms of physiology are far more complex than they would have to be to allow you to draw such a conclusion.

There are contless substances that when mixed together induce effects completely different than any of them do on their own. A well known example is the combination between alcohol and sleeping pills that really fucks you up big time.

I agree with the logic that the combination of the two fucks one up, no doubt, I know. What my point is however, is that it isn't 'more dangerous'. For instance, you'd be more likely to [worst case scenario] die, from a night 'on the binge' than you are if you have a few drinks before smoking weed or whatever.

I think people over emphasise the danger of combining substances. People drink cocktails with all manner of crazy alcohol in them on a regular basis . Hate to say it, but it is once again one of those human things we do where we make things seem more 'socially acceptable' than others. It's the same thing, yet we feel compelled to believe that you're more likely to die or cause serious harm to yourself if you mix drink and drugs, it's completely false.

Scientifically speaking now, we all should know that drinking is far more dangerous than smoking weed. The damage alcohol can do to your liver, intestine, not to mention your brain and cognitive functions, far surpasses anything that weed does to you.

This isn't to say I'm advocating one over the other as I do them both AND smoke cigarettes [so, yh, am screwed :p] I just don't like when people try to pretend that one is more dangerous than the other. The issue isn't the combination itself, as I've explained, Cocktails are perfectly fine to the masses. It's the substance that's being combined; that's the issue.

Written by [user id=107773] on 23.01.2011 at 14:51

It's the same thing, yet we feel compelled to believe that you're more likely to die or cause serious harm to yourself if you mix drink and drugs, it's completely false.

And you know this because you know shit about physiology/pharmacology? Or are you just pulling things out your ass? Aren't you studying psychology or something like that (forgive me if I'm wrong)?

Certain drugs don't mix well with alcohol for a multitude of reasons. Take tramadol for example. It's a painkiller which isn't really dangerous by itself in normal amounts, but if you mix it with alcohol, shit can easily stop your heart, because the effect of one substance affects the mechanism through which the other one is metabolized in some way (I am actually unsure of the specific details in this particular case).

Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 23.01.2011 at 15:21

Written by [user id=107773] on 23.01.2011 at 14:51

It's the same thing, yet we feel compelled to believe that you're more likely to die or cause serious harm to yourself if you mix drink and drugs, it's completely false.

And you know this because you know shit about physiology/pharmacology? Or are you just pulling things out your ass? Aren't you studying psychology or something like that (forgive me if I'm wrong)?

Certain drugs don't mix well with alcohol for a multitude of reasons. Take tramadol for example. It's a painkiller which isn't really dangerous by itself in normal amounts, but if you mix it with alcohol, shit can easily stop your heart, because the effect of one substance affects the mechanism through which the other one is metabolized in some way (I am actually unsure of the specific details in this particular case).

Yeah I study Psychology, fortunately for me, I'm not restricted to psychological knowledge, I'm well versed in language; linguistics; the mind; human behaviour; sociology; intelligence; philosophy; mythology; physics; biology; critical thinking among other things. So no, I don't study physiology, nor do I have to, to understand the logic behind;

alcohol + alcohol= incredibly dangerous, yet socially acceptable

alcohol + weed= not as danerous, socially unacceptable

something 'socially acceptable' isn't dangerous. This is a very basic idea, to break away from the topic for a brief moment, let us consider two kinds of children. The first child is the outgoing extroverted type who loves playing sports, that's a 'healthy' child to everyone, he poses no danger to anyone. The second child is a quiet introvert who loves painting these 'disturbing' pictures of demons and mythological creatures, this is an 'unhealthy' child, he could be dangerous in future, 'what child draws demons unless they're disturbed?' would be the question asked.

Now do I have to be an expert physiologist to make the claim that weed and alcohol isn't as dangerous to a person as alcohol on top of more alcohol? I would've thought this a given. Obviously I understand that certain substances react poorly with eachother, but weed and alcohol? Give me a break.

I'm gonna quote the epicly funny movie, Friday, 'weed is from the Earth! God put this here for me...and you! Take advantage man!'.

Written by [user id=107773] on 23.01.2011 at 15:47

Yeah I study Psychology, fortunately for me, I'm not restricted to psychological knowledge, I'm well versed in language; linguistics; the mind; human behaviour; sociology; intelligence; philosophy; mythology; physics; biology; critical thinking among other things. So no, I don't study physiology, nor do I have to, to understand the logic behind;

alcohol + alcohol= incredibly dangerous, yet socially acceptable

alcohol + weed= not as danerous, socially unacceptable

something 'socially acceptable' isn't dangerous. This is a very basic idea, to break away from the topic for a brief moment, let us consider two kinds of children. The first child is the outgoing extroverted type who loves playing sports, that's a 'healthy' child to everyone, he poses no danger to anyone. The second child is a quiet introvert who loves painting these 'disturbing' pictures of demons and mythological creatures, this is an 'unhealthy' child, he could be dangerous in future, 'what child draws demons unless they're disturbed?' would be the question asked.

Now do I have to be an expert physiologist to make the claim that weed and alcohol isn't as dangerous to a person as alcohol on top of more alcohol? I would've thought this a given. Obviously I understand that certain substances react poorly with eachother, but weed and alcohol? Give me a break.

I'm gonna quote the epicly funny movie, Friday, 'weed is from the Earth! God put this here for me...and you! Take advantage man!'.

What I'm saying basically is that no research has been done to assess the immiediate dangers of mixing the two, so one should not say stupid things like "there is no way that mixing the two could be more dangerous than doing it separately".

I also smoke lots of weed, and tend to mix it with alcohol sometimes, and I'm not afraid to. That doesn't mean I'm completely certain that this doesn't do more damage to me than the same amounts of weed and alcohol would do uncombined. Social acceptance has nothing to do with the way the body reacts to chemicals, and has nothing to do with this discussion whatsoever.

But then again, if it's nice in any way, it's probably bad for you. Hell, everything is bad for you in the wrong amounts.

Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 23.01.2011 at 16:34

Written by [user id=107773] on 23.01.2011 at 15:47

Yeah I study Psychology, fortunately for me, I'm not restricted to psychological knowledge, I'm well versed in language; linguistics; the mind; human behaviour; sociology; intelligence; philosophy; mythology; physics; biology; critical thinking among other things. So no, I don't study physiology, nor do I have to, to understand the logic behind;

alcohol + alcohol= incredibly dangerous, yet socially acceptable

alcohol + weed= not as danerous, socially unacceptable

something 'socially acceptable' isn't dangerous. This is a very basic idea, to break away from the topic for a brief moment, let us consider two kinds of children. The first child is the outgoing extroverted type who loves playing sports, that's a 'healthy' child to everyone, he poses no danger to anyone. The second child is a quiet introvert who loves painting these 'disturbing' pictures of demons and mythological creatures, this is an 'unhealthy' child, he could be dangerous in future, 'what child draws demons unless they're disturbed?' would be the question asked.

Now do I have to be an expert physiologist to make the claim that weed and alcohol isn't as dangerous to a person as alcohol on top of more alcohol? I would've thought this a given. Obviously I understand that certain substances react poorly with eachother, but weed and alcohol? Give me a break.

I'm gonna quote the epicly funny movie, Friday, 'weed is from the Earth! God put this here for me...and you! Take advantage man!'.

What I'm saying basically is that no research has been done to assess the immiediate dangers of mixing the two, so one should not say stupid things like "there is no way that mixing the two could be more dangerous than doing it separately".

I also smoke lots of weed, and tend to mix it with alcohol sometimes, and I'm not afraid to. That doesn't mean I'm completely certain that this doesn't do more damage to me than the same amounts of weed and alcohol would do uncombined. Social acceptance has nothing to do with the way the body reacts to chemicals, and has nothing to do with this discussion whatsoever.

But then again, if it's nice in any way, it's probably bad for you. Hell, everything is bad for you in the wrong amounts.

You're right, social acceptance has absolutely nothing to do with something's affect on the body, it has a lot to do with the way people think however. How do you think this discussion was even born? I have no evidence whatsoever but strongly maintain and believe that smoking weed and drinking can't be worse than drinking beverages with a high alcohlic percentage.

It's more than just logical that combining alcohol and weed (which both damage badly your health in many ways) is dangerous. I mean, just think of it: huge amounts of alcohol could destroy your liver (and not only, as Luneth has already stated.) If you smoke weed on a regular basis during a period of a few years or something, you're likely to become shizophrenic and start to lack lots of memories. Now, picture these two substances altogether and you'll get my point.

P.S.: Guys, why so serious?

Written by Elodie Artour on 23.01.2011 at 20:30

It's more than just logical that combining alcohol and weed (which both damage badly your health in many ways) is dangerous. I mean, just think of it: huge amounts of alcohol could destroy your liver (and not only, as Luneth has already stated.) If you smoke weed on a regular basis during a period of a few years or something, you're likely to become shizophrenic and start to lack lots of memories. Now, picture these two substances altogether and you'll get my point.

P.S.: Guys, why so serious?

That's a degree of seriousness isn't it? At lows they're both bad for you, but ome is more so than the other; the same thing for high's. Someone who does these things on a regular basis is clearly more likely to feel the potential negative effects than someone who doesn't do them as much.

I say it's just bad to want two things at the same time. just settle with the one you like the best.