This is some good stuff. Its a Leprosy clone but its still a damn good album. Buuut, after listening to it some more, all it does is copy Death. There is no reason to come back to this.

Jesus, the Death worship is strong with this one. But at least its worship of their Scream Bloody Gore/Leprosy/Spiritual Healing era, and pretty good worship at that.

Really enjoyed this at first, but after a while I just found myself wanting to listen to Death instead.

Great old school vibe, I find myself listening to this time and again.

Written by [user id=126528] on 18.04.2015 at 22:53

This is some good stuff. Its a Leprosy clone but its still a damn good album. Buuut, after listening to it some more, all it does is copy Death. There is no reason to come back to this.

I agree! Luckily, I love Death! So it's a treat to have more of what Death used to do. But yes, they certainly lose points in the originality department.

I agree on the fact that the sound is a major plus for them.

Written by deadone on 20.05.2015 at 09:32

I really like it.

I actually prefer it over Leprosy. The song writing isn't as strong with this one but the sound is a lot better especially in terms of drums and clarity.

Funny you rate it a 7.7 in your review and give the album a 7 here

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 21.05.2015 at 15:13


Funny you rate it a 7.7 in your review and give the album a 7 here

They don't teach rounding in Australia

PS @deadone: 7s are technically 6.6-7.5... or 6.5-7.4 or something like that, depends on how you deal with the .5s

Written by deadone on 22.05.2015 at 03:44


There's nothing about rounding in Metal Storm ratings system.

The rating system is as follows:

1 - Worst Ever
2 - Pure Shit
3 - Very Bad
4 - Bad
5 - Not Good
6 - Average
7 - Good
8 - Very Good
9 - Excellent
10 - Perfect


Thus anything with a 7 is a "Good."


The only official rule for ratings is:

Quote:
The rating system should be used but don't give ridiculous ratings. Very few albums actually deserve a 10 or a 2. Be reasonable.

This is taken from the Add A Review page:

http://metalstorm.net/pub/review_add.php

And is on FAQ:

http://metalstorm.net/home/faq.php?faq_id=15

It also doesn't say anything about ignoring common math so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Written by deadone on 22.05.2015 at 03:54

Sure. But given the system is specified, I stick to it.

Its specified? Where does it say to make 7.7s, 7s? I can't seem to find it

Written by deadone on 22.05.2015 at 03:59

It doesn't. It does specify 7s as good. This album is good so it gets a 7. It's slightly better than just plain good but it's not very good (song writing is not very good). Hence 7.7.

You can keep squinting and trying to shoehorn your beliefs into it. I'll stick with the ratings system as provided, even if I am allowed a decimal point for my reviews. If the system is changed, then I'll change my ratings to match.

I'm sorry, I didn't know my heathen math was bothering you

Written by deadone on 22.05.2015 at 04:02

What bothers me is you're trying to tell me how I should score (and not the first time either).

Maths has nothing to do with it.

Yes it does. Didn't you learn how to round to the nearest whole number? Because a rating system that uses only whole numbers kinda requires that.

Written by deadone on 22.05.2015 at 04:08

So you designed the Metal storm rating system now and know how it's formulated?

As stated rounding has nothing to do with the system as stated. It mentions 7s as good. I'll stick with that until the rules change.

You're acting like this 10 point rating system is the first of its kind or something and no one knows how to properly use it.

Written by deadone on 22.05.2015 at 04:24

No, I am merely stating that I rate according to the way the system presents the ratings. If the system rated "very good" as 7.5-8.4, then I would adjust accordingly. But there is no formal ruling and the only basis I have to work with is 7 = "Good" and 8 = "Very Good."


As I think "Savage Land" is good, it gets a 7. It gets a 7.7 in my review cause it's better than some of the other things that I also rate as good.

I am not sure why you object to this (or the fact I don't deal out 10s).

You are REALLY putting way too much emphasis on the words next to the numbers, especially when the words in question are vague.

Written by deadone on 22.05.2015 at 04:37

Those words aren't vague. I have in my mind what they mean.

Why are you putting so much emphasis on my ratings anyway? And if you disagree with them so vehemently, submit your own reviews and ignore mine.

Were talking about how to properly round to whole numbers. What's this have to do about submitting a counter review?

Written by deadone on 22.05.2015 at 04:48

You're the one obsessed with rounding numbers.

And rounding numbers is not universally accepted either.

E.g. When I was at university, scores were not based on rounding numbers. In fact the scoring system was as follows:

0%-49% - Fail
50%-59% - Pass
60%-69% - Credit
70%-79% - Distinction
80%-100% - High Distinction.

So guess them university folks didn't understand basic maths either and should've adopted the Fearmeister Commandments Of Scoring.


And as stated, this is the second time you've questioned my ratings in less than a month.

I really don't understand how that proves that they don't round decimal points.

(also Marcel started this)

Also, this thread is derailed hard.

RIP

Edit: Double post

Written by deadone on 22.05.2015 at 05:00

Because 7.7 could also been seen as 77% as it's a score out of 10 (100%).

But what about a 77.7? What then?

Written by deadone on 22.05.2015 at 05:05

Then it's a 77.7. So what? Doesn't change the fact that 70.0-79.9999999 can be seen as being appropriate scores for "Good" if the rating scale is set up that way.

Basically you inserted some assumption of rounding, when there is no such assumption stated anywhere in the rules and guidelines. All we know is 7 is "Good", 8 is "Very Good."

So what? It could be the difference between passing or failing.

If I got a 49.8%, do I pass, or do I fail?

Written by deadone on 22.05.2015 at 05:14

Not 50% so fail. In any case the scoring system didn't allow decimals. But if someone was only passing with such a marginal score, then it would be up to the lecturer's level of kindness to determine whether they pass or fail.

Regardless the main point is, unless specified you cannot assuming rounding.

Of course it doesn't allow decimals, that's the whole point of rounding in the first place! If I got 498 out of 1000 total points, do I pass or fail?

Written by deadone on 22.05.2015 at 05:24

Written by [user id=126528] on 22.05.2015 at 05:19

Of course it doesn't allow decimals, that's the whole point of rounding in the first place!

Incorrect. If you have 100 questions and each is worth 1 point, it's impossible to get something with a decimal.

Quote:
If I got 498 out of 1000 total points, do I pass or fail?

Fail. 49.8% is not 50% and thus not a pass.

This is getting absurd by the way.

For you I am going to re-rate everything to exclude decimals just to shut this up.

But if there are more than 100 questions with 1 point each, then decimals appear.

49.8 is not a 49% so I don't fail

And I simply made an off hand joke to Marcel, which you then latched onto and derailed the thread. If that hurt you enough that it forced you to change your votes, then I'm sorry.

(I sense a Marcel coming soon)

GET THE FUCK BACK ON-TOPIC!!!!!!

Written by [user id=126528] on 22.05.2015 at 03:21



PS @deadone: 7s are technically 6.6-7.5... or 6.5-7.4 or something like that, depends on how you deal with the .5s

One more off-topic remark (from the one who shouted at you guys to get on-topic ) .5s are alsways rounded up in common math.

It's an 8.5 for me. Sounds really really good. Sure, it's a Death tribute, but it's a hell of a good one.

After listening to the god awful Six Feet Under album I must say I really enjoyed Savage Lands. I love Death so anything close or really derivative is a plus for me. They killed it.

Tribute to Death!

Leprosy is one of my all time favourite death metal albums and Death my favourite bands, so no wonder I enjoyed this one as well. For those who don't already know, this is a loving tribute to that specific album and nothing else. They nailed the style and sound to the teeth.