AngelofDeth Cyborg Raptor
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Hmmm... Talked more about context of the album rather than content, so hard to really know what to expect from this. But maybe everything is said in the context for this album anyway: Dani's voice is gone, originality is gone and their main songwriter is gone, not a good combo...
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s_t_s
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26.06.2015 - 11:30Rating: 8
To me it's a really rushed and biased review... When I started reading it and saw that Godspeed on the Devil's Thunder was so harsly described, while I love it so much... It was all said. Besides I see no common point between Godspeed and Darkly. The first is one huge piece of gothic and symphonic metal while the second is "only" a collection of goods tracks. As for Manticore, even tho I own it, that's surely the CoF album I less listen to :/
When I read your rating, I thought : shit, another failed attempt of CoF but as I read deeper into your review, my interest grew and now you really had me want to listen to the full album !
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Windrider Raureif
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26.06.2015 - 13:01Rating: 6
Written by s_t_s on 26.06.2015 at 11:30
To me it's a really rushed and biased review...
Biased: As I said I really had hopes for this album and they were honest, but I was disappointed.
Rushed: I listened to the album for about two weeks before I wrote the review, can't say how many times exactly.
Written by s_t_s on 26.06.2015 at 11:30
When I read your rating, I thought : shit, another failed attempt of CoF but as I read deeper into your review, my interest grew and now you really had me want to listen to the full album !
But that's a good thing then, isn't it?
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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Not really a convincing review... I think the way the author tries to describe his feelings about this album is a little bit forced... this is how I perceive it. I did not listen to it entirely so I uphold my conclusions, though I remember liking "Right Wing...". The new track was a bit forgetable. Schoolcraft might not be as versatile as Sarah, but she ain't bothersome either.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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I did not know you like CoF and I like your writing style ... IMO indeed after 2 songs this goes back to old school
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Warman Erotic Stains
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26.06.2015 - 15:30Rating: 8
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If most songs even remind me the slightest of their older works, I'll like this.
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Dr. Strawberry
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I will buy this album, the cover art is so cool !
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SoUnDs LiKe PoP
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27.06.2015 - 04:32Rating: 9
I'm not a huge CoF fan, but both of the songs I've heard so far were great.
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Malignar
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The right wing song was CoF by the numbers and really really bad. Like a fan picked up a guitar and wrote a CoF song in one hour. The latest song (Deflowering) was quite good and showed a bit of life.
I don't have high hopes for the rest of the album though. I have no idea how a band loses the main songwriter and creates anything good.
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FYA Destroyer
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Written by Dr. Strawberry on 26.06.2015 at 20:03
I will buy this album, the cover art is so cool !
That's the reason? Only nice cover art?
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Opethian
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28.06.2015 - 05:26Rating: 8
I don't get it. 9/10 people commenting on here dislike the band. So IMO your comments are irrelevant. Why not leave the discussion open for the fans and people who enjoy COF?
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Karlabos
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^ Perhaps the people discussing and complaining ARE fans... Except of the older works?
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s_t_s
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28.06.2015 - 16:49Rating: 8
Written by Karlabos on 28.06.2015 at 05:59
^ Perhaps the people discussing and complaining ARE fans... Except of the older works?
Well I guess I can consider myself a CoF fan, yet I love all of their albums from the oldest to the latest, except for Manticore. Unlike some people I understand and accept that they have gradually changed style. I listen to older albums and more recents for different reasons and depending on what I want to listen to.
I don't listen to people who will call CoF sellouts unless they produce as many albums If you follow a band and they change style, well just don't listen to them anymore just like I did with Siren Charms of In Flames.
At least, as the author of the review stated, this may me want to listen to the full album while I wasn't expecting anything at all.
If you want to fight... Do it ! I have other things to do with my life
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Written by Opethian on 28.06.2015 at 05:26
So IMO your comments are irrelevant.
Hello pot, this is kettle...
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Vermoorden
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29.06.2015 - 00:23Rating: 10
Both the songs released so far have been fantastic, much better than anything on manticore. High hopes for this album still!
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musicalkaratekid
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I'll definitely check this album out, I sort of have an obligation to do so (The band introduced me to metal and were my fave band as a result for a good few years after all), but not expecting anything too "shocking" or "surprising", as Dani Filth himself has described in some of the promotional interviews of the album. Review is as straight-to-the-point as it needs to be for a COF album, nicely written.
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metalwolf
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I saw them perform on Graspop a week ago and Dani's voice didn't sound that bad to me...
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SoUnDs LiKe PoP
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29.06.2015 - 03:53Rating: 9
Written by Opethian on 28.06.2015 at 05:26
I don't get it. 9/10 people commenting on here dislike the band. So IMO your comments are irrelevant. Why not leave the discussion open for the fans and people who enjoy COF?
Well, for starters, I had nothing but positive things to say about the two songs that have been released.
I'm not a fan of CoF fan in the sense that I've never heard a full album from them that I enjoyed, however, they do have several independent tracks here and there that I enjoy.
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Dr. Strawberry
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Written by FYA on 27.06.2015 at 10:43
Written by Dr. Strawberry on 26.06.2015 at 20:03
I will buy this album, the cover art is so cool !
That's the reason? Only nice cover art?
Yes. I usually "judge a book by its cover".
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Ziom
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29.06.2015 - 13:43Rating: 9
The "Right hand..." single promises the best album since Midian IMHO.
1. Much more melodic guitars, less generic shredding than DDVA of GODT
2. Good female vocals, which were pretty much absent on previous albums
3. The song isn't too long, there's interesting things going on
Sorry, but Allender's departure did good. He closed himself in a style and didn't let go. CoF's best albums were when he wasn't in the band, with the exception of Midian.
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Opethian
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30.06.2015 - 00:28Rating: 8
Written by deadone on 29.06.2015 at 02:16
Written by Opethian on 28.06.2015 at 05:26
I don't get it. 9/10 people commenting on here dislike the band. So IMO your comments are irrelevant. Why not leave the discussion open for the fans and people who enjoy COF?
I'm commenting a a fan of their older stuff (and they used to be one of my favourite bands right up the point the extremely boring Damnation And A Day came out). Since then they've been average at best or crap at worst. I've really tried but there's a lack of interesting song writing, they lack atmosphere and energy of early releases and the production is sterile. Thjey have become "just another metal band."
Damnation and A Day was Extremely boring for you!? ... That's a first
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Opethian
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30.06.2015 - 00:30Rating: 8
Written by Ziom on 29.06.2015 at 13:43
The "Right hand..." single promises the best album since Midian IMHO.
1. Much more melodic guitars, less generic shredding than DDVA of GODT
2. Good female vocals, which were pretty much absent on previous albums
3. The song isn't too long, there's interesting things going on
Sorry, but Allender's departure did good. He closed himself in a style and didn't let go. CoF's best albums were when he wasn't in the band, with the exception of Midian.
Agree and disagree. Midian, Damnation, Gospeed, were all really good albums with Paul on Guitars. Manticore though?? ....ouch. Album was a waste of time IMO ..
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Ziom
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30.06.2015 - 00:56Rating: 9
I think that Midian was influenced by Gian Pyres, present on both Dusk and Cruelty. Damnation was boring. It had its moments, but it was too long. Forced in many places. Godspeed - again. 30 minutes too long, with good songs dragged into boredom.
Manticore was actually kinda cool. Punk +gothic + black. Pretty relaxed album after a string of epic concept albums that lasted over 70 minutes.
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Agree numero three. Gian Pyres was a huge loss. Up until that point they were very dark and serious and actually quality horror. Now I do actually really love Damnation and a Day, but from Nymphetamine on, for me, they've really just been a corny cartoon parody of their former self. And everything I've witnessed about this album, including this review, tells me they still are.
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Dr. Strawberry
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Agree and disagree. Midian, Damnation, Gospeed, were all really good albums with Paul on Guitars. Manticore though?? ....ouch. Album was a waste of time IMO ..
Disagreed. Midian, Damnation..., Gospeed...and all their later releases were all really booooooring albums.
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s_t_s
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30.06.2015 - 10:27Rating: 8
When I read all these posts it strikes me that CoF has offered such variety in their albums over the last decades that many people like or dislike such or such album. Somehow this is a good thing as it shows they have never done the same thing twice (or at least too many times .
I wish CoF offered us another epic and symphonic album as they did with Damnation or Godspeed but I don't think this will happen anymore. By the way no one here listens to Devilment's album ? I do and really like it as I take it for what it is : not a CoF album
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6100 |
30.06.2015 - 12:17Rating: 8
Written by TheMAGAmvm on 26.06.2015 at 13:14
Not really a convincing review... I think the way the author tries to describe his feelings about this album is a little bit forced... this is how I perceive it. I did not listen to it entirely so I uphold my conclusions, though I remember liking "Right Wing...". The new track was a bit forgetable. Schoolcraft might not be as versatile as Sarah, but she ain't bothersome either.
How is the review not convincing? Have you heard the whole album? I'm asking because only having heard the album you can judge the interview.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6100 |
30.06.2015 - 12:19Rating: 8
Written by Opethian on 28.06.2015 at 05:26
I don't get it. 9/10 people commenting on here dislike the band. So IMO your comments are irrelevant. Why not leave the discussion open for the fans and people who enjoy COF?
Please tell me you are joking...
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Vombatus Potorro
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Obviously haven't listen the thing, but the review hints exactly how I feel about the album. Probably coz I find boring anything after Cruelty, though Godspeed was surprisingly interesting. I'll skip this one.
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Ziom
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01.07.2015 - 12:58Rating: 9
Written by s_t_s on 30.06.2015 at 10:27
When I read all these posts it strikes me that CoF has offered such variety in their albums over the last decades that many people like or dislike such or such album. Somehow this is a good thing as it shows they have never done the same thing twice (or at least too many times .
I wish CoF offered us another epic and symphonic album as they did with Damnation or Godspeed but I don't think this will happen anymore. By the way no one here listens to Devilment's album ? I do and really like it as I take it for what it is : not a CoF album
True. CoF always offered variety. No two albums sounded the same (with the excecption of slightly similar DDVA and GSDT). However, they always had problems with overproduction and forcing unnecessary lenght. CAB and Midian were short - 50, 60 minutes. Than they thought they're obliged to make 70 minutes of music. Why?
I wondered if this dragging was Allender's lack of creativity, or Dani's demands (as he doesn't write any actual music, only acts as an executive producer or something).
Manticore and Right hand... shows they came to their senses.
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