Well, better them than Slipknot, August Burns Red, or Killswitch, at the very least

Written by Auntie Sahar on 16.02.2016 at 19:48

Well, better them than Slipknot, August Burns Red, or Killswitch, at the very least

I dunno, at least those bands are metal. Not sure I would call Ghost metal, especially not that song.

Best band of the bunch won, but, alas, they are not metal. Just pop rock, really.
it is actually if ABBA would win "best metal performance"

The whole thing is just so awkward though. No-one even claps lol

Even if their not metal I would of went for them winning a grammy anyway. To me their the most interesting out of the bunch.

Haha. That speech was amusing

Written by [user id=4365] on 16.02.2016 at 19:50

Written by Auntie Sahar on 16.02.2016 at 19:48

Well, better them than Slipknot, August Burns Red, or Killswitch, at the very least

I dunno, at least those bands are metal. Not sure I would call Ghost metal, especially not that song.

I'll argue for it being a metal song. Dual electric guitars with thick distortion and an extended guitar solo with a guitar rhythm backing it. Lyrics are based on Stephen King's Carrie so definitely masculine. Fits wikipedia's definition of metal and mine too. While it certainly isn't on the heavy end of the metal spectrum and it has a lot of keyboards in it, the roots are there. I'd say its metal.

Written by Auntie Sahar on 16.02.2016 at 19:48

Well, better them than Slipknot, August Burns Red, or Killswitch, at the very least

This.

Not a big fan of the masks, but the costumes were classy. Would love to have something similar to those.

Written by [user id=4365] on 16.02.2016 at 19:50

I dunno, at least those bands are metal. Not sure I would call Ghost metal, especially not that song.

at least they are vaguely more metal than Jethro Tull...

just what the Grammys consider metal. just realize this is the same business which denied Paul Freaking McCartney (and Beck) access to an afterparty later that night.

the whole thing is laughable.

The speech was great, so appropriate


Deserved recognition must a premier too.

After nu metal, metalcore, now we got occult rock for this decade!

Written by BitterCOld on 17.02.2016 at 00:20


at least they are vaguely more metal than Jethro Tull...

just what the Grammys consider metal. just realize this is the same business which denied Paul Freaking McCartney (and Beck) access to an afterparty later that night.

the whole thing is laughable.

I'm struggling to think who this is even aimed at. An audience that barely acknowledges that metal might even exist on some far off plane. I feel like they're trying to please someone, I'm just not sure who.

Written by [user id=4365] on 17.02.2016 at 01:40


I'm struggling to think who this is even aimed at. An audience that barely acknowledges that metal might even exist on some far off plane. I feel like they're trying to please someone, I'm just not sure who.

what someone on the committee or whatever's children/grandchildren have up on their bedroom wall is my best guess.

For only $87 a year, you too can decide who wins a golden gramophone: http://www2.grammy.com/PDFs/Members/naras_app.pdf

I wonder what the MS Awards would look like if they charged $87 a year to vote.

Papa without his mitre looks really thin.

I think the Grammies get a little too much hate in this regard. Were any of the nominated songs the absolute best of the year? Absolutely not. But that applies to every genre (except Hip-Hop this year). Your average person will recognize Slipknot and Lamb of God. August Burns Red and Ghost are mainstream names too. They're not going to recognize Cattle Decapitation or Swallow The Sun. Not to mention that the four popular bands I listed are far, far more accessible than a deathgrind or doom band. Same thing applies to all genres. All awards in general, too.

I won't deny there were some questionable song choices though. Slipknot being nominated again for the same album feels like a copout. Identity isn't anywhere near the best song on ABR's latest album, Ghosts would have been a significantly better and more accessible choice. Sevendust isn't a very good band. 512 and Cirice were the only real candidates, and I was happy that it went to one of those two. They weren't my favorite songs or albums, but both bands deserve it.

At the very least it's better than last year. There is nothing lower than a COVER song by a JOKE band winning a Grammy.

Written by [user id=4365] on 16.02.2016 at 19:50

Written by Auntie Sahar on 16.02.2016 at 19:48

Well, better them than Slipknot, August Burns Red, or Killswitch, at the very least

I dunno, at least those bands are metal. Not sure I would call Ghost metal, especially not that song.

None of those bands are metal. Metal bands give no shit about Grammys.

Written by Trismegistos on 17.02.2016 at 15:37

None of those bands are metal. Metal bands give no shit about Grammys.

Slipknot, August Burns Red and Killswitch Engage are all metal bands.

Written by Introspekrieg on 17.02.2016 at 02:38

I wonder what the MS Awards would look like if they charged $87 a year to vote.

See them tumbling down
Pledging their love to the ground
Lonely but free I'll be found
Drifting along with the tumbling tumbleweeds

Metalstorm users seem to have the most warped definition of what constitutes a metal song/band. It is not a requirement for bands to have deep growling vocals, double blast beats and to play at over 200bpm to be considered metal. The definition of Metal is extremely loose. The only real requirements that seem to be standard are amplified distortion, extended guitar solos and an "overall loudness". Personally, I believe having at least 2 guitars - Rhythm and a Lead - is also a requirement.

By definition, all of these bands are Metal, even Ghost.

Having 2 guitars is a requirement to be metal? That's just silly.

I guess Rodrigo Y Gabriela is at least one step closer to being metal than Motörhead.

Guitar solos? Totally unimportant for defining any genre. A solo is a window dressing, nothing more.

Written by Zap on 17.02.2016 at 18:52

Having 2 guitars is a requirement to be metal? That's just silly.

I guess Rodrigo Y Gabriela is at least one step closer to being metal than Motörhead.

Yep, i've never considered Motorhead to be Metal, they're Hard Rock by my definition. That's not a bad thing, just a different classification.

Written by [user id=4365] on 17.02.2016 at 20:40

Guitar solos? Totally unimportant for defining any genre. A solo is a window dressing, nothing more.

Completely disagree. Extended Guitar solos are a big turn off for many people. Most people who listen to mainstream only like the singing and most mainstream music has very short or no instrumental solors. All of metal has Guitar Solos. I can't think of a single metal band who doesn't use them regularly. Its one of the defining aspects of this genre.

Written by WorpeX on 17.02.2016 at 21:11

Completely disagree. Extended Guitar solos are a big turn off for many people. Most people who listen to mainstream only like the singing and most mainstream music has very short or no instrumental solors. All of metal has Guitar Solos. I can't think of a single metal band who doesn't use them regularly. Its one of the defining aspects of this genre.

Then you can't have heard much metal then, particularly much black or doom metal. I would argue the vast majority of metal bands do not feature solos in any significant way.

Written by [user id=4365] on 17.02.2016 at 21:13

Written by WorpeX on 17.02.2016 at 21:11

Completely disagree. Extended Guitar solos are a big turn off for many people. Most people who listen to mainstream only like the singing and most mainstream music has very short or no instrumental solors. All of metal has Guitar Solos. I can't think of a single metal band who doesn't use them regularly. Its one of the defining aspects of this genre.

Then you can't have heard much metal then, particularly much black or doom metal. I would argue the vast majority of metal bands do not feature solos in any significant way.

I would argue the opposite. Almost every definition of metal on the web has Extended Guitar solos, its not like im pulling this out of my ass. Link some some bands that you consider metal that do not have guitar solos.

Written by WorpeX on 17.02.2016 at 21:17

I would argue the opposite. Almost every definition of metal on the web has Extended Guitar solos, its not like im pulling this out of my ass. Link some some songs/bands that you consider metal that do not have guitar solos.

For what purpose? I could sift through dozens and dozens of bands that don't feature solos, and you could post dozens and dozens and bands that do. The fact remains though that a heavy, thrash, power, death etc. song with the solos removed would still be, inalienably, of that genre, and would still be metal through and through. A solo is a flourish, and rarely of any real or substantial value.

And those heavy, thrash, power, death metal songs played through only one speaker would still be metal as well.

I think WorpeX is entirely deriving his definitions from the melodic and heavy metal subsets of metal, whereby the proposed traits are commonplace (if actually superfluous to genre make-up). I have a feeling he wouldn't consider half the stuff on my profile to be metal...

I wonder how would you classify Bell Witch, which is just drum'n'bass project... Post-rock maybe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkeRtykwEY4